Reddy

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 10:27 AM) That could also be turned back around the other way... How come people who want regulations and rules for one amendment, don't want any for another? It works both ways. but it's not changing the amendment. it says you have the right to keep and bear arms. under my suggestions you STILL HAVE THAT RIGHT! you just have to go through some red tape. it would make it harder for people to get guns with which to commit crimes. no it wouldn't eradicate crime, that's impossible. but why is it so wrong of us to do something that may deter it?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) None of that would prevent mass shootings so I don't see the point. You're going to allow people to own a gun, but if they own too many, what? Have police on constant surveillance? You want someone with mental disorders from guns? How's that going to stop a mentally unstable 20 year old taking his mom's guns? how do you know it won't prevent mass shootings? can you give me the research that proves that assumption?

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 10:16 AM) Sounds great. Let's do this for voting as well. i thought people like you didn't want to regulate our freedoms. voting is speech. you don't want to regulate the first amendment now do you? that would surely be inconsistent!

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 09:53 AM) Hard to disagree with that idea. and sadly there are those that do.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 09:55 AM) Hate speech is protected speech. Even speech advocating violence is protected speech as long as it's not a call for immediate, specific violence. gotcha ok. i forgotted.

but isn't hate speech not protected speech? why don't these guys fall under that category?

Here's my view: *Regulations governing how guns are attained* Yes, I think you should be allowed to own a gun if you want to, but there needs to be a thorough background check, waiting period, psychiatric evaluation, and potentially even a registry that shows how many guns and what kind a person has/owns. Don't see what's wrong with all that - in fact, we do all of that when giving someone a driver's license, so why not with guns?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 09:44 AM) did... did you guys just... like... agree?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 09:20 AM) Are you sure there isn't anyone else in her life? For some reason I get the feeling that she is trying something new, and keeping you around just in case. i can see where you might draw that conclusion, because it really does have that feel to it, but strangely enough in the times we've talked we've actually been completely honest with each other. i think the reason for that is the way the breakup and everything since has gone down. While obviously I didn't agree with it and wasn't happy about it, I actually understood where she was coming from, and understood why she felt she needed to do this. And since I respected that, it kept our lines of communication SO much clearer and more open than they typically are post-breakup, and more than that, I didn't give her a reason to get angry and stop caring about me. and actually, there's been good news since i posted that yesterday. we talked last night for 2 1/2 hours about everything and about us, which i wasn't sure I actually wanted to do, but again, we just decided to be 100% honest about where we were and are at this point in time. and what we eventually came to was that all this great work we're doing on ourselves is pretty awesome, and she and I both feel it would suck if we never got to use it with each other. she said that yesterday made her realize that she 1) can have an amazing time with me and not worry about the rest of the crap 2) actually see a future for us. I told her that from here we can go one of two ways. We can be taking this time apart to strengthen ourselves AND our relationship/understanding of each other, or we can focus solely on ourselves, which means letting go completely and moving on. And she said that even though she's nervous, that she'd rather do the first. So it's obviously not all smooth sailing from here on out, and we're still not jumping into anything - we're not going to see each other again till after the holidays/new year - but I feel really good about this, and she says she does too. We'd both rather try and have it blow up in our faces, than to look back and say "what if?" So that's a start.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 08:05 PM) Did that "I am Adam Lanza's mother" blog post wind up in here? Can't remember if it was just here or a dozen times on my facebook feed. Want the Truth Behind “I Am Adam Lanza’s Mother”? Read her blog. I tend to agree with the folks in the comments and think her blog posts are being grossly misinterpreted and taken out of context.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 06:19 PM) You've got to just give her some space...all this s*** will work itself out if you allow it to. Yep. You're right. Get out of my head and stop worrying about things I've got no power over.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) No gun dealer is directly shooting kids either. It was a terrible comparison. Drugs kill something like 10X's as many people as firearms, and they are illegal. It was a horrible pick. no, the comparison wasn't terrible, your gross misinterpretation was.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 03:18 PM) And because Reddy cited the Hobbit earlier. Samwise Gamgee: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo; the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end... because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was, when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines, it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you, that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something. Frodo Baggins: What are we holding on to, Sam? Samwise Gamgee: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for. :wub:

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 02:51 PM) Your second response was reasoned. But see what your first response was?? The one that was completely loud, WRONG and full of it? That's what we have in America today. take a look at what you wrote. You didn't consider any of the guy's points about evil. You jumped all over a somber toned article that brought up some points that people like me believe to be true. A dissention of opinion. This is done a million times over in this country. Nobody has respect for anybody else's beliefs. There can be a discussion on NOTHING anymore. For you to get that out of that article, just depresses me because I know there's no hope. It goes on everywhere much worse than even what you wrote. We truly are doomed as a society. This proves it for me. It's going to get so much worse. GREG. the fact that you said his response was WRONG means that you're doing the EXACT THING that you're criticizing other Americans of doing, and that's NOT LISTENING to other viewpoints!!!!!! good god man your hypocrisy is astounding!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) You're kidding, right? and you're being intentionally obtuse (what new?) if you're thinking "but drugs DO kill kids all over the world!" drugs are something someone does to THEMSELVES. guns, well, they kill innocent children who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 02:08 PM) That is not just a fear, it is reality. lol based on WHAT?

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 8, 2012 -> 01:52 AM) Sorry dude... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XnjtdziBj9A/TKEH...zone_poster.jpg spent 9 hours together. saw the movie, held hands etc. went to dinner and had a great time, then walked 40 blocks and got dessert/drinks - just altogether a TON of fun. we talked ahead of time and decided to treat it like a first date kind of vibe. at the end of the night she instigated the kissing, didn't want it to be over, walked to her place extra slowly, blah blah blah. she had a great time, I had a great time, everything was great. until i let myself slip just a tiny bit. unfortunately that tiny bit was probably enough to undo the entire day's worth of fun, great conversation, great chemistry, etc. basically after all that, she said "lets take the day to process all this, and then lets talk tomorrow night" (smart, rational decision) but for some reason i felt like I wanted something more concrete in the moment and I pushed a little too much. nothing like... bad or ridiculous, but i think i highlighted the fact that even though we have fun together and feel strongly about each other, we're still not in the same exact place. nonetheless after a lot of me waffling and basically showing her that she still does hold the cards, we said goodnight, I said sorry for being weird at the end. she told me not to be sorry and that i put together an amazing date and she had a great time, and she was gonna call me tonight when she gets off work. what the f*** are you supposed to do when you love someone and they love you back, but they also have life stuff they want to figure out?? My heart wants to be patient, and my brain says that if she can't make a commitment to me, then why the f*** should I wait? I'm mostly just venting... and thinking... and writing it all down helps me process.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 12:59 PM) I know it is off topic, but I find it fascinating how this is 180 degrees different of any drug discussion. drugs don't kill 20 kids. there's a bit of a difference

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) If there are two people shooting guns, how do I know which one I'm supposed to shoot at? How does the next guy know he's not supposed to shoot at me? +1

the world has always been scary, but that doesn't mean we worry about that when it comes to making our small, personal choices in life. you can be scared of all the bad things going on, or you can live your life and enjoy the hell out of every moment. I prefer the latter.

guys just go see the hobbit. it'll put it all in perspective. Gandalf: "Saruman believes that it is only great power that can hold evil in check. That is not what I have found. I have found that it is the small things, every day deeds from ordinary folk, that keeps the darkness at bay. Simple acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? Perhaps it is because I am afraid. He gives me courage."

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) I hunt mostly pheasant, quail, ducks and such, so there is no time to reload. However, I personally use a double barrel so I do not have a semi automatic. this is my point though, after than FIRST shot isn't the likelihood you hit your target close to nil unless you're an expert marksman? (if i'm wrong you can let me know too, i'm not all that experienced with hunting. shooting yes, but hunting no)

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) LOL! I don't think it was worse than that one. I know especially in this forum and with a topic like this it can get heated and people will have varying opinions but c'mon flat out insulting someone's intelligence is uncalled for. but... it's greg...

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 01:03 PM) Nice. Isn't personally insulting a fellow poster sort of against Soxtalk policies? in this scenario it's called for.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 15, 2012 -> 12:58 PM) Now Sidney Blumenthal (CT Senator) is saying that the Bushmaster 223 WAS used as part of the attack... Basically, he described it as a modified M-16, essentially. Also story coming out how one of the young teachers (Vicky or Vickie Soto) saved almost all of her students, whose classroom was located near the front of the school....but that they all saw her shot down right in front of them and had to run past the gunman while their beloved teacher was trying to distract him. wow on every level