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QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 12, 2012 -> 04:33 PM) If they keep playing ball like they have the last few weeks. Slim. are you insane? we're 7 GAMES OVER .500 who the f*** saw that coming this year. i'm sick of your attitude kid. haha

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) I was watching the marathon on MTV2 the other day. Probably my favorite show of all time. Which actors are you referring to? Linda Cardellini, I'm sure um? leo dicaprio?

Liberals think the media is responsible for the misinformation that makes up the conservative base. Conservatives think the media has a liberal agenda. That's never going to change.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 5, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) Having a discussion with my friend about the best movie pre-workout: 300, Warrior, and Never Back Down top my list. Any of the Rocky movies are also a given. 2+ hours of motivation? jeez how much free time do you have?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 09:01 PM) 1b Keon Barnum of King High (FLA) HS position players. weird.

Hawkins' Backflip

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 09:12 PM) Supposedly Buxton did i use hyperbole. it's still incredibly rare.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 08:51 PM) Sergio Santos "Touches" 98. and Hawkins actually hits 92 according to the scouting reports. and he's 18. 18 year olds never hit 98.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 08:46 PM) Most of the pitching stuff claims that he "touches" 90. He's not a professional pitcher and if it came to that, he'd be too old to make the turnaround quick enough. He just needs work on his approach at this point. really? Sergio Santos says hi.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 08:34 PM) Well, there's always an NBA career for him if he doesn't make it in baseball with that famous name. Or a career as the next White Sox closer. that's what i love about this pick. he doesn't pan out as a hitter, make him a great reliever. at least you'd be getting something out of him.

QUOTE (TheHammer @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 08:00 PM) The Dunn C grade is absolutely absurd. You are acting like Trump with the birth certificate thing. Have you seen Dunn's numbers this year with runners on base? OPS well over 1.100. Your nonsense about his strikeouts being important because he isn't moving runners over fails to hold up since all his strikeouts are coming with no one on base anyway. There is a reason why Dunn has more RBIs than Konerko even though he is hitting 140 points less. Also Dunn basically did nothing but strike out for the last week so you are judging his numbers after a short cold streak that significantly changed BA, strikeout total, and OPS. How does the last week (when we went 6-1) somehow mean that much to his season? This is why message boards get bogged down, people can't be wrong even when they are wrong. Dunn has been awesome this year just give him some props and move on. :headbang

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 04:07 PM) The real question, and only you can answer this (and it is your opinion) is whether you think that Adam Dunn, from a career perspective, is an A player. I think it depends on where you as an individual fall from a stat perspective. Given that he can't play defense and has flaws (such as a low batting average and high strikeouts), I personally would never rate Adam Dunn (via his career averages) as an A player. I'd rate him a B to B+ player. To be frank, that is the same rating I'd give a Paul Konerko on a career average perspective (or very similar). However, I think some people would potentially argue Dunn (at his averages) is an A player (because of OBP, OPS, and his pure slugging). There is a disparity in how 2 different people view certain stats and give weight to certain stats. totally agree. but in no way is he a C (or average) player. no matter WHAT metrics you're using.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) And 88 strikeouts isn't. so you're telling me, that solely based on a high strikeout total, a guy goes from an A to a C. Regardless of the Runs Created.... Regardless of the WAR... Regardless of the OPS, the RBIs, the Home Runs, the Runs Scored, the highest walk rate of his career. Regardless of all that. 88 strikeouts is worth grading him a C. If you say yes to all this, then we'll leave it at that and speak no more of it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 03:36 PM) And as I laid out before, OPS is very close to normal. Couple that with the horrible average and historically bad strike out rate, and I would say that balances out the extra .019 OPS. but dude, the whole point is that average is FACTORED IN to OBP and thus OPS. the low average does NOT balance out anything, as it's already in the equation!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 02:29 PM) I used the statistics you laid out. Now you are going to argue that they don't matter? Come on man. And yes opinion matters. Baseball is largely based on opinion. If we weren't talking about opinion, no one would post on this board, well pretty much ever. Even worse would be calling someone stupid, which you did at multiple points in this thread, over opinions. ok i don't remember exactly, but if you DID use OBP and OPS, you mentioned that the OBP is about his career norm and that his OPS is ABOVE his career norm, which leads him to get a C. Only players EXCEEDING career numbers are allowed higher grades than a C. Is this generally correct?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 02:27 PM) The point is, you are most likely full of it as you tend to add more players having good years to every post. In an hour, you will have probably have the top 100 guys in baseball on your roster. do you want me to do a screen capture? I will.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 02:22 PM) I figured as much. I articulated how I decided grades and why. I even gave statistical analysis of how and why. I don't know why you need to take a piece of out everything and turn it into a personal insult, if you are going to, at least be able to come up with what you are asking me to do. At the end of the day is something to talk about on a an off-day. No need to turn it into a reason to insult multiple people. do you understand that you can use statistics incorrectly? you can read them to mean something they don't? if you don't understand the stats that matter, your opinion also doesn't matter.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 02:21 PM) Pence is rated higher fantasy-wise than Ethier & Fowler. And the Uptons are both better than Duda. i have to clarify that i play in an OBP/OPS league so all 3 slash stats matter, not just AVG. So in my league, that's not the case.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 02:18 PM) Really...thats great. Your fantasy team is doing well. Major league baseball isn't fantasy baseball. Andre Ethier's explosion? Really, dude is a stud and has been. Guy was on pace for the triple crown prior to going down with an injury a year ago. Fowler, sure he might have struggled, but lets not pretend he wasn't one of the top prospects in the game. andre ethier has been solid. he's always jumped out early and faltered after about June, whether due to injury or personal issues with management. my gut was he actually puts together a whole solid season this year as long as he's got his health. drafting him in the mid rounds has been a huge steal. the same can be said for Kipnis and Duda in the late rounds. my point is, i'm good at fantasy baseball because i'm pretty good at predicting value of players - especially ones that have fallen out of favor for whatever reason. and the stats i use are not batting average and strikeouts, because neither of those things MATTER. that's all i'm trying to point out.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Ethier, Fowler and Duda put you 20 games ahead 1/3 of the way through the season. ... when you put those guys on top of Miggy/Hanley/Stanton, with a little Buster Posey and Mike Trout for good measure, yes. If I'd gone with guys you like (high batting average guys) I could easily have 3 black holes where Ethier, Fowler and Duda are like Ichiro, Pence, or Take-Your-Pick-of-Uptons

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) Get a clue. You actually said someone needs to read a book about fantasy baseball to understand how the game is played. Talk about someone in la la land listen son, i'm already ahead in my fantasy league by 20 games. 20. Why? Because I predicted Andre Ethier's explosion even though he hit 12 homers and had 40-some rbi last year. I predicted Dexter Fowler's explosion even though he's been awful till this year. I predicted Lucas Duda's ... not explosion like the others, but extremely serviceable start. What's the common denominator between ALL 3? O. B. P. end of story. edit: Throw Kipnis in there as well. Number one 2B this year. Called that too.

Adam Dunn is on pace for a 4.1 WAR - which would be his HIGHEST TOTAL since 2004. how does that not warrant an A?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) And that's fair...I don't have a problem with giving Jake an A...I guess I don't think a grading scale should be based on your subjective expectations... Dunn is coming off the worst season in modern professional baseball history...yet your expectations were exactly what he is doing now....and therefore he gets a C... But hey, it's your thread. it's like banging your head against a wall repeatedly with these two. they don't understand value in baseball, so there's no way to convince them otherwise.

for everyone still in the statistical dark ages (SS, DA, etc) OBP>>>>>>>>AVG in determining a players' value. OPS>>>>>>>>AVG in determining a players' value. why is this difficult to grasp?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2012 -> 11:28 AM) Right. One reply versus "like 8", and I am the one who is arguing? There is a reason I mostly ignored your posts after I clarified my system. ss you're just wrong on this issue. and that's why you ignored all the posts that proved it.