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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 15, 2012 -> 08:58 AM) I wonder how many copies of P90X have been pirated! it's a damn shame too. i have two P90X challenge groups that started yesterday and half of those 10 people already had the DVDs that they got "from a friend" ugh.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 15, 2012 -> 08:49 AM) Nothing silly looking there! But really, so what? To me, the muscle-bound guy who is benching 450 lbs but can't turn his neck looks silly. It should be about improving yourself, not impressing other people with your workout routine. suggesting that P90X is like drinking beer out of a straw riled me up. but I agree with both you and shack to each his own, and i've said that multiple times.

well soxtalk ate my post about Tony - but suffice it to say, he doesn't actually work out in a gym very often - if at all (of course he did when he was younger though). He has to lead workouts at his home doing variations on P90X/X2 every single day... on top of that he does beach workouts and runs programs all over the country for beachbody so... doubt HE has time to hit the gym!

QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 15, 2012 -> 07:44 AM) It's also his livelihood...so seriously, get some perspective. If I was able to dedicate that much time to working out, because it was...you know...my JOB to work out...I'd be in just as good shape as him. That's not hard. It's hard when you have a regular 8+ hour a day job, a commute from time to time, a child that wants to play with you every waking moment, things to do around the house because you own the house and have to upkeep it...to everyday life... Horton has a pretty big advantage in that his 9-5 is working out. Big f***ing deal. Of course he's in shape. He's paid handsomely to be. haha touche on all counts.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 15, 2012 -> 07:23 AM) That's where you are wrong. 1 hour every day IS a lot to ask. I work out 3-4 days a week, that's it...I don't have the time or energy to do more. When I was in my 20's, I'd work out 6 days a week for up to 2 hours a day. I'm closer to 40 now than I am to 20. My goal is maintain decent shape while remembering to live without boundaries...boundaries such as, OMG I can't eat that ice cream...it's full of fat and calories! f*** that. I'm having my cake and eating it, too. For the record, while in my 20's...I'd hardly ever "cheat" and eat things that were bad for me...almost never. I'm not willing to do that anymore. We NEVER disagreed about P90X, or weight lifting, or any other work our regime working versus not working. We agree they all work, and they all have their specific benefits/downsides, etc... We disagree on one simple thing. I find home workouts like P90X embarrassing. They're cheesy and often silly to listen too...and the moves they sometimes have you do are...how shall I say...stupid looking? This is an opinion of how things look/feel...NOT how they work. Does P90X work? Absolutely yes. I liken P90X to drinking beer out of a straw. While lifting weights is more like grabbing the glass and chugging it. Both work. But let's be honest, drinking beer out of a straw always looks silly...and is embarrassing. i am absolutely the furthest thing from embarrassed about doing P90X, and I'm not sure why anyone would be to tell you the truth. i watched a video last night where Tony Horton did 7 pullups with an 85lb dumbbell between his feet. He did 15 pushups while on two stability balls. Asked one of the younger guys to try it, couldn't even do ONE. Try asking any gym-rat to do that, and I bet they couldn't either. I don't give a s*** if something looks silly - if it's gonna make me stronger, healthier and more athletic, I'll do it. as for your analogy - P90X is like chugging that beer while in Half-Moon (yoga pose) and doing dumbbell curls with your empty hand. EDIT: PS, Tony is a 54 year old man beating the panties off mid-20s guys. Don't gimme that "I'm 40 so it doesn't matter anymore"

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 15, 2012 -> 12:10 AM) Apparently only white people are sexy. stupid list, but um... beyonce was up there...

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 15, 2012 -> 12:13 AM) Sounds like the Bachelor lawsuit...for never having a "non-white" Bachelor or Bachelorette in the history of the show. Statistically, there should be a Hispanic one 14-15% of the time, African American 11-12% and Asian about 7% of the time. Instead, we get America's Sweetheart, Emily Maynard (granted, she is pretty hot, but I understand the point of those frustrated with ALWAYS having white contestants and the few minority ones getting wiped out quickly). This has never happened with Survivor casts, FWIW. so in the history of the show we should have had, what, one black and maybe one hispanic? how longs the show been running?

Shack that was the greatest nickname genesis ever.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 14, 2012 -> 08:30 PM) The Royals announcers have stopped counting the sheer number of line drives hit at fielders...and then it starts to snowball, you start to press and get out of your normal game, like it did with Swisher in 2008. A year ago, you would have said Hosmer was the sure thing and that Moustakas looked incredibly shaky, more like Alex Gordon when he first came up than a perennial All-Star. Now things have almost completely reversed, although Hosmer's at least hit some dingers and collected some RBI's. and WALKED. that's the key. once that BABIP starts climbing, Hosmer will be a force yet again.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 14, 2012 -> 04:03 PM) Great work Reddy! thanks man. crazy thing is that was only in my 2nd month of this round. got 4 more weeks till my 90 day shots. Then starting Asylum, and 30 days later starting P90X2! i may be a little obsessed. lol

QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 14, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) Some people, such as myself, just want to maintain a 'decent shape', and have a great physical look to go with it -- without having to be in 'the best, fastest, most athletic shape possible'. I don't have the time anymore. When I was single and in my 20's, I had the time...now that I'm married, a father, and the only source of income for my family, I don't have hours to dedicate to staying that lean...not to mention I'm almost 37 now. I eat ice cream almost every day. And I like beer. Oh, and I just had a banana Slurpee from 7/11...and it was good. haha again i know y'all already know how i feel about p90x, but both you and jake gave gross misrepresentations - you about time, him about it being 'cardio-centric'. I spend an hour. one hour. every day. that's not a lot to ask. again, we've had this convo and you can do your thing and i'll do mine and they're both GREAT - but lets call a spade a spade when we discuss different programs and how they work.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 14, 2012 -> 01:18 PM) Outside of Buster Posey, the first half of that '08 draft is looking awful. Pedro Alvarez has crushed my prospect spirit. Tim Beckham hasn't sniffed the majors yet. Brett Wallace is somewhere in the world getting traded again. Hosmer is hitting .194 or some s*** like that. Brian Matusz is an abomination. Justin Smoak is garbage. Yuck. Hosmer's fine. his peripherals suggest he'll bounce back still this year. But the rest of that class... yeah... lots of untapped potential.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 14, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) How about for the pushup and leg exercises, though? Doing 200 push-ups is a lot more cardio than doing some bench presses. Don't get me wrong, I like P90X myself. I just wouldn't say it was equivalent to a weight-centric workout routine. if you wanna BULK up, maybe not. If you want to be more athletic, and perform better in all areas of fitness, P90X is better than a typical weight-centric routine. I'd rather be doing yoga when I'm 80 than lookin' like the hulk right now.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 14, 2012 -> 02:48 PM) Well to be fair there's a cardio aspect to all of P90X's workouts since you're generally doing a bunch of reps (not each set, but over the course of an hour) instead of a handful of exercises with a lot of weight. i do 7-8 reps on every move with as much weight as i can, and take slightly longer breaks. I have a set of powerblocks so it's exactly like hitting a gym, but at a higher intensity level because you do it for an hour.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 14, 2012 -> 02:36 PM) Still not a fan of P90x and as mentioned, it's because it is essentially cardio or at least "too cardio" for my purposes. It's great that it motivates people to start working out and there are several pluses that go along with someone starting P90x: 1. The nature of cardio is that long cardio sessions can burn pretty large amount of calories while typical resistance training has a negligible calorie burning effect. I'd imagine a P90x burns off a whole twinkie or so. 2. Working out and particularly cardio has an appetite suppressing effect for a number of reasons. You're not hungry while you're working out. There is a slight stomach shrinking that goes on during exercise as well. Psychologically, folks feel much more accountable for their diet if they have worked out that day as well. 3. You're working out! Hooray. Untrained individuals in particular will respond very well to just about any workout program that they follow closely, especially if there is any resistance aspect to it. I still am a much bigger fan of true resistance training, like lifting heavy weights. Improving maximal strength is very important, makes notable changes to physique, and even plays a role in hormone optimization (cardio has been shown to have a negative effect of testosterone, in contrast). For those worried about getting "too big," please return to this planet (or remove your skinny jeans). Gaining muscle mass is very difficult even with a perfect program and diet. There is a distinct evolutionary advantage to gaining fat instead of muscle and you will fight that constantly. For a trained lifter (2+ years training), gaining 2 pounds muscle mass per YEAR is considered a reasonable goal. If you have gained or are gaining more you are either: untrained, gaining more fat than you think, or you have amazing genetics. And while it's fabulous to talk about workout programs, it all comes down to diet. Your energy balance (calories in vs out) along with adequate protein intake is going to explain 75% of your visible results. You may gain some strength or endurance with a poor diet, but your physique will change as your diet dictates it to. If anyone is interested in really cracking down on your diet, I'd be happy to explain more. It is actually much simpler than you might think and you'll be happy (or perhaps sorry) to know that much of the popular discourse about diet is completely false or misleading. You are absolutely wrong on what P90X is. It's not a cardio program. You do TWO days of cardio a week. TWO. The rest are resistance training and Yoga - which is also a strength building practice, as well as helping with balance and overall fitness. Here are my before and afters, and tell me it doesn't help you build muscle. Secondly, it burns more than a damn twinkie. If it didn't when you tried it, you weren't doing it right. I burn anywhere from 300 (yoga) to 1000 (plyo) calories every workout. What you said is asinine.

in 2 months I've raised my # of pushups by 41, and my pullups by 20. P90X. It works.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 13, 2012 -> 05:46 PM) Amen brotha. ElRockin remains the best Sox fan I've ever come across. Amazingly loyal even after losing 2 of 3 to the s*** (albeit better than the Sox) Royals. somewhere Marty and Dick Allen are feeling insulted.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) But its not guaranteed. Its one reason I don't understand the pitch until something blows theory. i said almost always. that's not a guarantee.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) I did... aight i'll read it later after work.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:37 PM) You just said it happens all the time, now it doesn't guarantee it. And you pop off people have no idea what they are posting about. hahaha the phrase 'all the time' is hyperbole. go look it up.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 02:35 PM) There are people that know a lot more about pitching mechanics than you or I who disagree with your theory. gimme a link

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:34 PM) You did google it. Does anyone with the inverted w, avoid surgery? Don't know. Gotta run to work though. Have fun y'all.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:33 PM) Driveline mechanics There is a lot of controversy regarding the inverted W theory...there is certainly not enough evidence to be able to state that everyone who has the motion will blow out their arm... of course not. but there's a very high correlation. i know that doesn't guarantee causation, but nonetheless it happens quite a bit. Chris Sale has an inverted W. His elbow is already flaring up a bit... we really think he's NOT going to hurt his elbow at some point?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:30 PM) Funny how you Google inverted W, those are the guys that pop up. You're the google king. 1) i didn't have to, I recently read an article, like i mentioned 2) does googling something make it less true?

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 13, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) No, this is what you read in a fan graphs article. espn the mag.