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QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 17, 2017 -> 04:15 PM) Those guys should thank Trump over and over. They could have rotted in a jail over there for years. They caught a break, a big one. If they feel entitled over this one, shame on them. Again, they could be in deep trouble in prison over there, torture and all that. Dumbasses steal stuff from stores in China?? Geez how dumb are people? You realize that things like this happen in nearly every administration, right? Trump did his JOB - he didn't go above and beyond. And no other President has had to demand an apology. Sad.

Where the hell are the mods in this thread? Oh. Right. They're contributing to the mayhem. It's like the Trump White House up in here right now.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 10:00 PM) Why do you think this is some kind of a game? Who is keeping score? Well, other than you. You already were stretching to protect your Hollywood friends and now you just want to keep tallies of D vs R. I hope you are having fun. OMG I have Hollywood friends? Can we go to their parties? Did y'all not see me call for Franken to resign? Y'alls confirmation bias when it comes to me is pretty hilarious. I'm kind of amazed at the narrative you've built up in your mind about me, though.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 07:54 PM) You realize keeping score is seriously shallow and petty, right? you must be new to politics.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 06:47 PM) Looking for a source now. Twitter's annoying sometimes. Looks like it may just be a bulls*** twitter-created story at the moment regarding the photog. Haven't been able to pin down any real info on that yet.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 06:44 PM) Do you have a link for that? My first impression of the photo was that it was a gag. It reminded me of a sleepover where people took embarrassing photos of the first person to pass out. I started to think about how some of those actions would be perceived in today's society. Looking for a source now. Twitter's annoying sometimes.

The photographer apparently refutes Tweeden's story, saying she was "playing dead" and that the photo was staged - that Franken was supposed to be "trying to revive her". That plus Roger Stone plus the timing plus Tweeden saying she wasn't here to make Franken resign, etc makes this a lot more difficult than I originally made it out to be. If it's a purely political attack, it sets a really dangerous precedent to resign.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 06:06 PM) As SB says, you're making this a "team" situation. You're already claiming this was all planned and executed with ulterior motives. Why aren't you saying the same thing about Moore? You don't think the timing of those accusers coming out, a month before an election, is suspect? When else would it come out!? The Post was down there covering the election, heard whispers of a story, pursued it, asked questions, etc, and unravelled the truth. That's what journalism is. It happened BECAUSE of the election, but through organic reporting. These women weren't people with an axe to grind who sought out the media to tell their story. Today's event, however, looks like something that was politically orchestrated by - if not the GOP directly - associates of Bannon, Stone and those in power in the White House, in an effort to distract and provide cover for a story that was hurting them (and cover the House tax vote). There's a really important distinction here. One is journalism. The other is an intentionally timed and orchestrated political attack. Conservatives who believe that the media is in the pocket of Dems may not buy that argument, but that doesn't make it false.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 05:23 PM) Never wager on something you have no way of knowing. A lot of "liberals" have been caught in this mess. The reason I hate politicizing it, is because its going to become about "teams" instead of looking at each case on its own merit. Go back a few pages. Already made this argument. Fewer Ds than Rs have committed these types of crimes and walked away scot-free, and more Rs than Ds have had sex scandals over the past couple decades. Also there are just fewer male Democrats in office, so the odds are in my favor.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 05:14 PM) Sounds like the Keystone pipeline leaked. Everything is awful. 200,000 gallons. Ya know... exactly what everyone said would happen.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) 1) Pretty certain all of the conservatives I know don't condone sexual harassment/assault. Don't mistake politicians for speaking for the majority of people. 2) I'd really like to see what the split was in Congress for the 10-15 million in harassment/assault settlements that have been paid out. My guess is it's a pretty good mix of Dems/Republicans. 3) It's sad that an issue like sexual harassment/assault has to be politicized. But, 2017. 1) I said "The Dems" as in, the Dems in congress. the Democratic Party. Not "all dems" or all people. Reading comprehension without infusion of bias is key! 2) Of course it's a mix. Though I'd wager it leans further R than D based on historical evidence. 3) I'm very confused why any issue shouldn't be politicized. If you want to fix something, it has to go through the political process. That's like, what this country's based on. Laws and stuff.

QUOTE (Quin @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) So apparently Roger Stone leaked this last night. What the hell? Guarantee you it was orchestrated to distract people from calling their congresspeople on Tax Bill Vote Day. That's the only reason I can see that Tweedon would accept Franken's apology so damn quickly. She's a regular Hannity guest, but likely doesn't want this to be a long drawn out story for her own sake. As far as political stunts are concerned, this one was well played all around.

For political and optics reasons, Franken should resign. Based on his statement, if the context (Moore/Trump) were different, I'd defend him staying. But the context isn't different, and not resigning undercuts the moral high ground on issues of sexual harassment/assault that the Dems wish to have.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 12:08 AM) I read Moore's argument against the year book, and I actually think there is merit. Thats not to say this guy hasnt done bad things, I just think its possible that the year book is a forgery. Could you link it? If that were the case it would pretty much blow this whole thing wide open and also discredit every other accuser. Seems risky.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 09:13 PM) One of the "betting odds" websites has it ranked like this: Michelle Obama Kaine (blehhh) Warren Booker J.Castro Klobuchar Bernie Sanders Biden Bloomberg Cortez Masto (that's a new name, relatively inexperienced) No mention of Kamala Harris, Gillibrand, O'Malley, Sherrod Brown Yeeeeeeah that's wrong haha Bloomberg won't, and Klobuchar and Cortez Masto don't strike me as likely. Don't think Kaine will either. CERTAINLY Michelle won't. O'Malley is literally knocking doors in Iowa as we speak. Kamala is a shoe in. Sherrod may, but his space is filled by Warren, and Gillibrand may as well but she's basically Hillary-lite (without the baggage, but optics-wise) Chris Murphy is interesting too. It wasn't the "plan" for him to run in 2020, but he may now given how much traction he's getting.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) You all should know, Jim Colbert's Ben & Jerry's Americone Dream is amazing. The Tonight Dough is omg

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 09:25 PM) Any proof? Why do you have to insert yourself in something that has nothing to do with you? Because you bring down the level of discourse in these threads every time you get involved in them and it's frustrating. I read these threads on a daily basis, so if you're posting BS in them, I have every right to say so.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 08:17 PM) Balta, Those three posts of mine quoted above were deleted almost immediately after each was made, the first and third because I realized that they were needlessly antagonistic. I don't know how else he could have recovered them except for abusing his privileges. The only one of you who was making personal attacks was the mod in the discussion. sad.

Everyone's running. Literally everyone. Ted Lieu is looking into it, Martin O'Malley is a dark horse. Pretty much any other person you see in the media on a regular basis. There will be a few on the R side and about 15 on the D side.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 06:01 PM) Thanks for you advice. I’ll advise you to expand your horizons and study history. I’d also say you should try and use evidence instead of stereotypes for your points. I’ll see you next time I post in the buster. God knows you’ll be here when I do. lol. as if rabbit isn't in here constantly also? sad.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 07:40 PM) Looks like Virginia house is gonna be 50/50 with Democrats holding the tie breaker Republicans had held a 66-34 majority Whoops I guess there is no tie breaker, so it's just an even split PS what's your source?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 07:40 PM) Looks like Virginia house is gonna be 50/50 with Democrats holding the tie breaker Republicans had held a 66-34 majority Whoops I guess there is no tie breaker, so it's just an even split Crazy. Yeah they'll have to come up with some sort of power-sharing agreement. Completely insane result that not one single person saw coming.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) Id bet almost anything it’s definitely happened at some point. Sure. We have example after example after example after example of it happening with the GOP. Why's it so hard to find them on the other side? You seriously think the GOP isn't trying? Occam's Razor, folks. Works every time.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 04:36 PM) Politicizing pedophilia is pretty cheap. There's an obvious correlation/causation break in logic, but don't let that stop any of you from pushing your agenda. Wat.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) lol, you keep telling yourself that. It is all about power protecting power. Nothing more, nothing less. It why Hollywood protected its own, and it is why Washington takes care of its own. Turning it into a political ideology it exactly what turns out people who "protect" Roy Moore by making party more important than country., Do you have further examples of Dems defending sexual predators within their ranks in order to win elections?