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QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 12, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Anytime greg is mentioned as somebody's "favorite" of the year means it is a good day for me. Any time greg talks in the third person is a good day for Soxtalk.

Sell the farm for Cole Hamels.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 12, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) Your opinion is just as valid as mine . Maybe I am wrong in assuming players and contending interests fans more than advanced stats. Advanced stats do not appeal to everyone whereas I'm pretty sure all that come here like to read and talk about the players and our chances of winning. I don't know a damn thing about running a website but I think people coming back again and again matters more if Jason gets any revenue from this venture. But it's his website and if he thinks advanced stats bring more than just diehards here then so be it. Yep, of course your opinion is just as valid. I just feel that even if you're less popular because you're ahead of the curve, that ends up being better in the long run, by making you even more popular when everyone catches up. "We were there first" kind of a thing. The casual fan WILL catch up. 10 years ago, no one knew what OPS was. Now it's being shown on broadcasts, so the average fan is aware of what it means. It's no different with WAR and the other advanced stats. Eventually they'll make their way into the lexicon if they prove to be good stats - which they have.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 12, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) Eminor I hope you understand my rant was half truthful and more comedically intented in nature. Writing is more my thing than math so once in a while I write things just to get it off my chest with some humor and hopefully it's understood I meant no slights to anyone. But I still don't understand why it takes precedent over offseason acquisitions in the pinned area. I assume Soxtalk wants to grow as a community so even the casual fan can find things that appeal to them by dropping in here and lurking before eventually feeling comfortable enough to make posts. I realize threads "run their course " and the discussions of acquistions is old news at this point but the players and a chance at a successful season and the excitement it has generated are usually the primary interest of fans in general . I understand what is pinned is not my decision to make . It's just my feeling that having the best Sox topics pinned or on the front page is the best way to keep people who show up here interested in coming back rather then having them look at page after page of what's been discussed over the past few months rather than the first thing they see being FAQ about avanced stats. It ends up becoming an argument of: Would you rather be the most popular, or the best? Support for advanced stats puts us in the latter category (although we probably also happen to be in the first as well, among White Sox fan sites)

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 11, 2015 -> 11:49 PM) What some of you Sabes people must realize is a lot of us, including Barkley, do not give a s*** about advanced stats. I mean some of it is interesting, but I think what Charles is saying is a ballplayer knows a good ballplayer when he sees one. Believe me, I don't need advanced stats to tell me Rios or Dunn are good players. I happen to SEE them play and can tell you they are not. I'm not a big WAR guy obviously. When I see Adam Dunn whiff as much as he did as a Sox, and the fact he as our big gun never sniffed a postseason, tells me a lot. I don't need advanced stats telling me he was good or some such. Again, if you watch your favorite team all year, you know who is good and who is bad. That's my take. The Sabes people should be more tolerant of us Sabes haters or Sabes dislikers. but you'd be wrong.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Feb 11, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) That's interesting Balta. I think most people feel that Robin is antisabe due to his use of the bullpen. Watching the 45min Soxfest video of RH, RV & SS really shed some light on it for me. Nate & Lidstrom went down last year, we didn't really have a lefty option at all & our rotation wasn't helping matters. So we used a lot of young guys. An overlooked part of managing a bullpen of young guys is protecting their health for future years. So it wasn't as simple as "Why isn't Robin pitching so and so". He had young guys getting a taste & short SP outings. I think many will be pleased with the matchups we use this year. Robin had the best bullpen management in baseball in 2014. We've been down this road. ETA: in terms of getting the most out of what he had. statistically speaking.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 11, 2015 -> 01:24 PM) I really could care less about this...not sure why he felt the need to do it, but I don't really get the outrage. I think it's because he was probably considered the best modern newsman of the major networks. Most trusted/respected, etc. Not that he had much competition... But people love it when giants fall.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 11, 2015 -> 10:38 AM) WSI wishes they had the Peter Pan historians we have. QFT.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 11, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) get a net, hold it above your head, and wait for the joke to come back again This place would be so boring without me. You know you love it.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Feb 11, 2015 -> 10:23 AM) "I have to explain to my 5 year old son why a girl is playing Peter Pan." No easy task. He already gets boners because of females. I don't want to confuse his boner. And I was making a joke in general. Mah bad, y'all.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Feb 11, 2015 -> 07:45 AM) First, I have to explain to my 5 year old son why a girl is playing Peter Pan. Then, that girl gets her a$$ eaten on pay cable. Now her Dad turns out to be a liar and is taken off air?! What about the children?! Think of the children! A girl has always played Peter Pan in the theatre since the dawn of time.

buster? I think NBC wants to keep him, but they know that there needs to be time for the air to clear. Americans have short memories. Personally, I think he deserved to lose his job.

Today is a sad day for truth in news media reporting. Jon Stewart. You will be missed.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 12:27 AM) Which reminds me of another thing that steroids do - they increase testosterone which increases competitive drive and confidence, among it's other strength benefits. The bat speed thing I mentioned earlier came from one of the former assistants at one of the busted steroid places, maybe BALCO, in some sort of documentary newscast a few years ago. He had also heard from several players, allegedly, about an increase in visual acuity helping guys see the rotation better, among other things. I believe there is literally a whole world of wonderful things that steroids can do for the high-level competitive male athlete. But I'm not going to say they'll make a bad player great. that may also be psychological. who knows. but yeah I'm pretty much on board with you on all this. good info - thanks.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 08:16 PM) I would love if the Sox got K-Rod. 7th-8th-9th inning of Duke, K-Rod, and Robertson would be lethal. That moves Jennings , Putnam, and Petricka into lesser roles. I want Brandon Beachy. Beachy + Coop =

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 04:28 PM) Reddy how do you get riled up so easily man? Napoleon syndrome. Regarding, specifically, my height. Nothing else.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 04:31 PM) All posts regarding politics and/or the race discussions, after this point, will be deleted. Offenders may also face suspensions. You have all been warned. Sounds good to me. Thanks.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 04:07 PM) You really think he is no longer cheating? And you keep contradicting yourself. How could something not make him pitch better, but help him recover, so he will what? Pitch better? I'm done, get the last word. Thanks. You're equating "good pitcher" or "good hitter" with "gets good results" I don't think those two are synonymous. Colon has always been a good pitcher, he just had a bad couple years and testosterone allowed his body to recover and regenerate with the help of stem cells, which allowed him to get good results again. Just as a good hitter (Sosa) can have a bad season (age 28 .778 OPS), a good pitcher can have a bad season, which brings us full circle to Belisario. And with that, I bid this thread adieu.

K, I'm done. Arguing with you is painful, but I can't help myself. I just need to remember that in 2015, facts don't mean anything anymore to a majority of Americans. Notice that when I'm wrong, I usually admit it. Wish others (you) could do the same.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 04:00 PM) He didn't get suspended 50 games for stem cell therapy. Truth. Testosterone. You're still drawing false equivalencies. What happens for one player means nothing in regard to another. What was your point with Colon? That he was "bad" before roids made him "good" again? How do you explain his performance after coming back from his suspension when he's no longer roiding? The T and stem cells helped him recover to the point where he could pitch up to his historical norms again. They didn't make him a better pitcher, they helped him recover so that he could pitch the way he had always been able to.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) Bartolo Colon was pretty bad when he had a resurgence at age 39 and wound up on the same list as ARod. He used stem cell therapy. Different.

QUOTE (black jack @ Feb 8, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) There wasn't anything wrong with your post douglas. Whoever was offended by the taco comment needs to pull their liberal PC thongs out of their butts. Now, if you could help me figure out how to get all those darn zipperheads off my lawn... If you could please move this type of comment to the buster, so as not to sully the infallible PHT, that'd be great. Thanks.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) I thought this was a thread about James Shields? Haha yeah... hasn't been for about 20 pages. Whoops. It's been about advanced stats, and steroids, and... well... basically every controversial baseball topic you can possibly think of. Haha

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 03:44 PM) Barry Bonds could have starred until he was probably 50. He was bigger than Sammy. If he never juiced, Sammy Sosa would not be considered a star player today. And if they have different effects, how can you say they can't make a bad player a great one? 1) Bonds' knees fell apart. 2) You don't know that. Pure conjecture. 3) Because statistically that has never happened yet, as far as I'm aware.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Feb 9, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) Not so. It breaks down like this: Steroids increase strength, which increases bat speed, which allows hitters a split second longer to recognize the pitch AND aim the barrel of the bat correctly - meaning more contact, and more-barreled contact, and contact at a higher bat speed, sending the ball further. An honest user would tell you this. The split-second makes a huge difference. awesome point. hadn't considered that. (not sarcasm again!) that helps explain the massive BA jumps for guys like Sosa. But again, they don't help enough to make bad players good. I've yet to see an example where that's the case. Our own Melkster is a great example. Everyone thought he was "bad", started hitting well, turned out he was on roids, but ever since then - presumably off roids - he's still a good hitter. Turns out he would've probably been a good hitter anyway, even without the roids - the timing was just such that the roids coincided with the typical breakout age so it confused the picture.