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Piazza not going in is somewhat criminal imo

nope.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 21, 2013 -> 10:19 AM) Signing Perez makes no sense. He's expensive and not very good. Is anyone other than me familiar with Nate Jones' FIPs? Give him the job and let him run with it. Seriously. 2.64 FIP last year. Dude's the closer. /thread.

I would punch a baby if we sign Chris Perez.

Arguing over whether or not he was wrong to say what he said is pointless. It doesn't matter. He has a right to say what he wants and the network has a right to fire him. The end.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Dec 19, 2013 -> 02:14 PM) Woah Nate Jones numbers from 12-13 are weird. This year he had 6 less walks, 2 more hits in 6.1 more innings with an ERA almost 2 runs higher. I wonder if he was really lucky in 12 or really unlucky in 13. I wonder if we'll see right in the middle this year. His ERA was 4.15 last year but his FIP was 2.64 He's a helluva pitcher.

marry, bang or kill? hmmm.... definitely bang.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 15, 2013 -> 01:49 AM) This is exactly who Frank Thomas was to the fans who followed him closest. I'm sure many of you can attest as well with similar stories. Frank was the reason I became a Sox fan. Being a born and raised Southern Californian, there really was no other reason for a 7 year old boy to latch onto the Chicago White Sox. All it took was one ESPN highlight of him mashing a Mike Mussina meatball out to the left field concourse. And so a childhood obsession began. Whenever the Sox were in town playing the Angels, my dad took work off... Bringing me with him for a series long indulgence of modern day Cracker Jack glory. My pops was a pretty smart guy - the first thing he taught me about the spectator side of Baseball was, "get to the park early." Real early. Four hours early. We would wait for players to arrive and get their signatures with a black felt tip Sharpie pen. It was a crap shoot I'd soon learn. Some players would quickly sign for a couple of people without breaking stride or taking their sun glasses off. Others would treat fans as if they where air and walk right by. The first time I saw Frank Thomas walk up with his six foot five frame holding two hundred and something pounds of muscle - I figured it would be a tough autograph to pull off. He always was dressed as a consummate professional. A full suit with a coat. Nice slacks and a fleece sweater. Not flashy or arrogant but rather, as a man who was there to do a job. Being that he was one of the most talented players on the planet - I expected him to just blow by all the fans. They swarmed up quickly... Clearly everyone had really been waiting for him. It was a shock seeing what happened: Frank walked up to the entrance door. Removed his glasses. Turned around and smiled. He said two words, "Line up!" and then resumed back to smiling. About fifty or a hundred people would stand in a single file line. We all fell into formation. The Big Hurt stood there and signed every autograph. He shook any outstretched hand. He posed for any picture requested. He treated everyone as if they where equals. The respect we had for him as a baseball player was returned to us tenfold as fans. The first time I saw this system - I figured we just came on the right day. Got lucky. It was a priceless moment. I've no clue who won or lost the actual game but I'll never forget that moment. After the stadium emptied, my dad turned to me and asked if I wanted to wait for the players again - this time catching them as they exited. To a seven year old, "sure!" is the only possible response. And so we waited. About two hours later, Frank appeared at the player door, yet again in his professional attire. Everyone saw him and lined up. The man signed autographs for at least another hour. Amazing. And so began a family tradition. For nearly the next decade - we always saw the Sox play in Anaheim. More often than not, Frank would sign for hours before or after a game... Sometimes both. Unbelievable. Consistent. Humble. Amazing. Powerful. One of a kind. Those are words that not only define his career on the field but they also are appropriate descriptions of his character. Two years ago, right before getting married and starting a family of my own - I had a chance to save up some cash and surprise my dad with a trip to Chicago. It was our first trip to The Homeland after all of those years on enemy grounds. I wrote to Brooks Boyer and told him a little about my Dad and his selfless dedication to me during all of those Sox away games. After so many years waiting around for autographs and seeing the Angles beat our Sox - my pops was finally treated to a surprise on a new level. Brooks instructed me to meet him at the field on our last game of a 7 game set. We arrived an hour before gates opened to the public. He greeted us - shook my dads hand... And walked us into the executive offices. He walked us down under the stadium, by the players locker rooms, and up through the umpire tunnel. We arrived behind home plate. The look on my Dads face was priceless. He had no clue any of this would happen. Standing behind home plate, on the dirt of US Cellular Field... My old man cracked a smile like Frank Thomas always showed and teared up a bit. Bad. Ass. Thanks Frank Thomas for introducing me to the White Sox. Thanks for absolutely crushing baseballs. For inspiring me to play the game. For showing me how to handle success with grace. For affording me the opportunity to know gratitude and show appreciation on a Big Hurt scale. Thanks for leading me to the best organization in all of sports. An organization where everyone from the top down treats each other like a family. Thanks for being a legend of mythic proportion that can now be passed down to a son of my own once he's born this March. He'll be three weeks old when the 2014 season opens this year. He'll be wrapped in his first Sox jersey - watching his first game with Daddy. Here's to hoping that by 2021 - when I go wait around with my boy at first first ball game - that some now unknown player will treat us with so much dignity. I doubt there will ever again be a player of such a Big Hurt magnitude. But hey, here's to hoping... Right. Frank Thomas is already in the Hall of Fame to me. Period. Easily POTY. Amazing story.

Oh see I think pitching is more dominant these days because of TJ surgery. Period. More guys stay in the game longer because of that procedure, thus more GOOD pitchers stay in the league longer, thus there are MORE good pitchers in the league.

Lets see.... 1) anyone who plays fantasy baseball can tell you that closers are LITERALLY a dime a dozen and hardly anyone holds the job for any significant period of time. 2) Davidson had a .768 OPS at 22 years old in the MAJORS last year. Can you imagine if we even got THAT out of our 3B? that's a huge increase in production. Factor in that he's only going to get better, and you do this trade every day of the week and twice on sunday.

Wow that's a helluva trade.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 15, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) Well I guess f*** Rock? screw that guy

Eaton is instantly my new favorite Sox player unless he Beckhams

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 01:29 PM) I thought you were just saying that 90% of good players are good looking, not that 90% of good looking players are good. I am entirely confused now, thanks that is what i was saying, however then i realized if I made that claim, I couldn't justify my original post because Eaton isn't technically "good" yet at the major league level

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 12:43 PM) This does not apply to Gordon Beckham he's in the 10%

Also, he's good lookin' 90% of good players are also attractive Anyone else ever notice this?

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 11:34 AM) Since we're talking comps... How about an OF version of Jason Kipnis? Fair? fewer homers and better OBP than kipnis

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 11, 2013 -> 01:34 AM) Angels improved their team the most, the Sox improved their team the adequately, and the Diamondbacks didn't improve the team at all. Disagree. We dealt from a position of strength to fill a position of weakness. We did great.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 10:21 PM) How do you interpret a .381/.456/.539 in AAA as a guy that you can easily declare "can't hit"? That AAA line is a 163 wRC+, meaning he was 63% more productive than that league's average, adjusting for ballpark factors. One does not simply outproduce the average PCL hitter by 63% and be a s***ty hitter, especially with no other data to the contrary. He finished that season by posting a 118 wRC+ in the MLB. Then last year he misses the entire season, no spring training, and survives at the big league level by hitting at a level that would make him look like a slugger on the 2013 White Sox. This player is his bat and all scouts agree that it's his best tool. He was a top 100 prospect, something we rarely have, and a top 3 prospect in an absolutely loaded Arizona system. Even as a prospect, he was never "mediocre," at least not after his rookie ball season when people realized being 5'8" didn't stop him from pounding professional pitching. Duke is impervious to facts. we know this.

.365/.441/.522 at AAA yeah he's trash.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 09:43 PM) We have a glut of LHP, this made sense even if I was a real fan of Hector's. The problem is we got crap in return. Adam Eaton cant hit. I dont get it, and now were going to deal DeAza for a lottery ticket prospect. What does this net us other than a new face? I mean, unless Hahn does something super fancy (or teams somehow arent aware of ADAs sucktitude) this boils down to: Solid lefty with good potential Low caliber starting CF for Low-middle caliber starting CF Mediocre prospect Team didnt get better unless they see something in Eaton that indicate he will get good. Is there anything you do like in life? Also Adam Eaton is a star. You're dead wrong. Shh.

I was at work from 6am to 2pm and hadnt slept the night before, so when I got home I took a 2 hour nap and didn't find out till 5:30 or so! Laaaaame

You guys are crazy. Adam Eaton is a HUGE talent and is easily worth Hector Santiago. Pitching is our strength. Deal from strength to shore up weaknesses.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 10, 2013 -> 06:48 PM) My buddy from Arizona: "He's going to be an absolute stud. Guy can hit for average, steal bases, is patient, and will be a great lead off hitter. (Juan Pierre when he was good with more HR)" agreed

Ackley is not a good baseball player