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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) Really? Googling the phrase "Obama politifact fact check" is beyond your capabilities? How about 'Where is this level of fact check from a supposedly neutral mainstream media outlet on Obama?' if there ever is one, it is after the fact when it is too late to matter. Hell if they just covered Biden with half as much zeal, he would come across dumber than the public seems to remember Dan Quayle, however you spell that. But that might look bad to have THAT on the ticket.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 09:03 PM) Dude...it was actually signing statements, not executive orders. And the EPA is actually required by law to regulate co2. The administration has been in violation of th law by not flgettin those regulations out. And the fact that you think climate Change is a giant conspiracy of evil scientists is sad. Is the EPA also required to put the domestic coal and oil industry out of business? And to screw small to medium size businesses with its new boiler regulations? because that is what they are trying to do. But despite what you type here, he still did 3 of the 4 things the original poster said, which 'couldn't be taken seriously'. The level he did them may be in dispute, but he DID them. So the over-reaction by Sqwert was unfounded, other than in his own biases.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 05:14 PM) FWIW you left over a post that NSS made, which always struck me as sorta funny since he's usually about as middle-of-the-road as you can get. The NSS post was just the last one there for me to reply to, it was others that broke the camel's back.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) Factual correction that I blame on Wikipedia. Took me a minute to realize that there are dates missing, and so executive orders missing, from the Wikipedia List. The full Obama total is 91. That averages out to ~295 EO's issued during an 8 year term if he kept doing so at this pace (not always the case, lots of EO's are always issued right up front, like closing guantanamo and ending the global gag rule). So, if Obama kept up the current pace from his first 2.5 years, he'd have about 7 more executive orders than Bush. Yes, executive orders is what i meant. And even if he only signs half as many as bush, you all decried their use then, yet are silent now. And he IS trying to rule by executive fiat. Can't get labor laws you want passed? Appoint a union stooge to heard the NLRB and just f*ck business from within untouched. Can't convince enough people that globull warming is real? Have the EPA start regulating everything it remotely THINKS it can. Obama has already shown he has no problems going around the legislative process when it suits his agenda. Actions such as those would be lambasted forever under a Republican admin. But hey, Democrats mean well, so all is good.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) Sorry but I can't take any of this seriously: America succumbed to the superficial charm of someone who doesn't represent her values Someone who has spent most of his reign trying to subvert the Constitution of the United States and rule by executive fiat Someone who bows to our enemies (the Saudi King, for one) and tries to apologize for our status as the greatest nation on Earth Someone who insults swaths of the American public While I don't claim to know how 'America' succumbed, I don't see where the others are that far off. If Bush would have used Executive signings 1/3 as much as Obama has, and bypassed congress with his appointments and had department head make regulations when he couldn't get laws passed, the left side of this board would be going postal. You know this, and to deny that would be a lie. His bowing to foreign heads of state has been well below the angle of respect and to the level of subservience, and he HAS spent a better part of his admin apologizing for America. Obama has also insulted many sectors of the public, although usually the side that didn't vote for him anyway. Bitter clingers, anyone?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) If memory serves, he was one of the ones who got really angry about this site having rules and decided to depart. No, that is not me, and I left because I was tired of dealing with single minded idiots who just got more and more 'angry' the more you tried to have conversations, and resorted to increasingly personal attacks and insults. There are a few of those people I am talking about in this thread already. I had been staying out of the politics part of this site as you all frankly piss me off to no end. There are maybe 5 of you on the liberal side who post here that i can even stand to read, the rest of you are as partisan, if not more, than those you try to berate. And yes, there are some on the 'other' side just as bad. However, on the topic of THIS post, I agree with SS2K earlier on, you take the opportunity and put it in your experience bank. I met Clinton once years ago, shook his hand, he said 'Hi young man, hope you are enjoying your visit to the White House', and I said "Yes, I am, thank you Mr. president". I did not like the guy, but I can see where other would as he came across as a very likable in person. (the father of a friend I was visiting had some 'personal connection' to Clinton, hence the WH visit and quick greeting, as my friend's dad got a 5 minute meeting himself after that. Still to this day have no idea what it was about, friend won't tell me)

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