EvilMonkey

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 5, 2008 -> 07:59 AM) Stevens gets reelected. Wow. Alaskans really are dopes. no more so that the state that elected a dead guy or Louisanna reelecting freezer-cash guy. "Everybody is a crook except our guy" seems to be popular among states, as long as thier guy brings home the bacon.

QUOTE (Steff @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 05:12 PM) 1st quote response - The guy with the club was arrested for this? Because if that's what he was doing it's an arrestable offense is it not? 2nd quote response - And it doesn't mean that it was. It's in the eye of the beholder I suppose, right? The fact that the authorities found nothing wrong speaks volumes to me. To you, it's the other extreme. So be it. Unless the guy actually hit someone, can you really see the police there hauling off a Black Panther to jail in those circumstances? Especially if the responding officers were white? The one guy interviewed said the police asked him to leave, and without someone staying there to try and press charges for something, that was probbaly about all they could do without causing a bigger scene.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 02:58 PM) Why do you think she outdraws them at rallies? Do you really think its her politics? I think if Obama went across the aisle and picked her as his running mate, you would have a totally different opinion about her. Obama draws more than she does at rallies, and you don't have much nice to say about him. Do you think its her good looks?

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 02:09 PM) Means justify ends - if you agree with it. If not, then it's bad. Many German's agreed with gassing the Jews. Was that not bad? Did the means justify the end? Not to pipcka fight or take a shot but that is the most idiotic statement i have heard on here in a while, and that includes a boatload from AHB.

QUOTE (Steff @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 02:00 PM) Oh, he was lying about being security? I must have missed that part. Good thing they asked him to leave, and him doing so without incident, then. The one guy without the nitestick was an official pollwatcher and lived in the building. The other guy was apparently neither one.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 01:59 PM) Anybody whose vote is actually swayed by that shouldn't be allowed to vote. Does the same apply for any dumbass that belives it when they get a flier that says because og high voter turnout republicans vote on Tuesday and Democrats vote on Wednesday?

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 01:40 PM) when you are on the verge of loosing an election... any tactic is acceptable. Or on the verge of winning.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 01:14 PM) Alpha, Do you seriously believe that moderates problem with Palin is that she is a woman? Or perhaps is it her social conservative values, its her anti-urban sentiment, her "real america" ideals. The only thing Palin has going for her is that she is a woman and therefore when people dont like her its cause shes a "woman." You can believe what ever you want, but I could have voted for McCain, but I never would vote for Palin. Once he picked Palin I completely changed my view on this election and started actively working to promote Obama. Before I could have cared less. But see, if HEr views have completely changed you over to Obama, then you were probably just a RINO anyway and not really for Mccain to begin with. Sure, the vp helps to shape policy, and all we have been hearing is that she is 'a heartbeat away', but the policy stillcomes from the president, and if elected, that would be McCain. if McCain's views fit you just fine before the palin pick, how do you reconcile now supporting Obama's views, which are completely DIFFERENt from McCain's? You have just abandoned the voews you supposedly believed, because of a secondary position that ONLY matters if something happens to him. And despite his age, that's still a big if. I am not saying the second person's views shouldn't have any weight, but you are assigning her views more weight that you are giving the top dog.

QUOTE (Steff @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 01:01 PM) That was the report. But since the police supposedly had been there and gone - and all they did accorging to the guy that called them was ask they guy with the club to leave - there was no comment from them. The was another panther member there not bothering anyone. They show him on camera. because the other guy was supposedly an official poll watcher who actually lived in the building. Not too much they could do there, especially sine the other guy supposedly had the weapon.

I can see the new slogan now. "Voter intimidation....It's not just for white people anymore." Seriouosly, what drives people to THAT level. The level of actual intimidation. Or of vote fraud. I understand people are passionate, but at what point in your mind does become acceptable to you to just break the law like that.

She outdraws Biden and McCain at rallys, but it was a slap in the face to the American people? presidents pick vp's usually to offset somethig they are not good at or experienced at. Obama took Biden for his supposed 'gravitas' at whatever it is he is supposed to be good at. About the only thing he seems good at is inserting his foot into his mouth. McCain took palin because she is younger (to counter his claims of being too old to be in touch) and because she compliments his 'maverick' image. Nitpik all you want but she has taken on corruption in the party before, and that plays well with alot of people. So its a bad thing that Mccain took Palin because she was a woman? Give me a break. Was it a bad thing that Obama took Biden because he was white? There are several other black politicians he could have chose. or Hispanic. They each chose someone opposite of themselves. Mccain gets s*** on for his pick, while Obama is praised for his pick. All i am saying is that if palin is the tipping point in you voting against McCain, you were going to do that anyway and are just using her as an excuse.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 11:10 AM) Networks May Call Race Before Voting Is Complete Hope they have better checks than last time when they called Florida before the voting was even done.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 11:24 AM) I think she'd be a pretty good reason. Care to support your claim that she's NOT a good reason to avoid McCain? Just curious, really. I don't know how old you are and how many elections you have voted for, but seriously, you are voting for the President and his backup. It's like saying you don't like AJ because Hall is his backup. How many elections have you participated in when you even cared about the vp spot? If you don't want to vote for McCain, just say so and stop using Palin as a crutch. If her inexperience bugs you and Obama's doesn't, then your logic is slightly skewed. Just go ahead and put the inexperience right at the top to start, no need to wait for the main guy to drop dead.

They could end up doing like they did in Illinois with the lottery money that was supposed to make the schools the best in the land! They removes one dollar from the state's share for every new dollar that comes in from the new 'source'. net result is nothing.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 12:48 AM) i just got linked to the fox news comments on Obama's grandmothers death...pretty awful stuff. I have a hard time believing people like that exist. Spend a few minutes on Deomcratic Underground and you will be embarrassed for your side also. They are everywhere, and not limited to one party.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 07:53 PM) From polling data, I wouldn't say so far there's evidence that they're "For" it. It's almost split for Latino groups. I didn't mean to impy that it was like 80% or anything, just that it wasn't only Republicans. Which you agreed with.

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 04:36 PM) Oh well. I'm past bipartisanship. The R's need to feel our pain for a change. Sorry if I'm angry but I passed way too many Yes on 8 signs on my way to work this morning. Those people need a rude awakening. Just so you know, there is a large hispanic population, that usually votes Democratic, that is for prop 8. It isn't entirely along political party lines as you might believe.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:52 PM) An independent GOP group has been running an Obama / Rev Wright had pretty heavily recently. It ends with "Barack Obama... Too Radical... Too Risky" I'm I reading into it too much by using the word "radical" when referring to a black preacher and black candidate that it's pretty blatant race baiting? Why not too extreme? A black pastor preaching black sepratism and reparations isnt radical? God Damn Amerikkka isnt radical? Oh, i forgot, 'radical' is code for 'black'. So is 'smart', 'uppity', 'talks well', 'intellectual' 'socialist' and others. I wonder if 'guy' is a safe word?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) Obama's not going to do anything about NAFTA. The entire thing during the Dem primaries was purely a charade designed to siphon votes off Hillary (it didn't really work that well, but well enough). I didn't mean that he actually would Do anythign about it, but it would be brought up, and there will be hearings and stuff on it, and it will scare the hell out of our NAFTA partners to the point that they also make deals elsewhere to cover themselves, just in case. And those will be lost opportunities for US companies, just because of the 'talk'.

I will make a prediction here, that isn't good. Despite his bad politics, The One will win. Electorial vote wise, it willbe a sizeable victory, but popular vote wise, it will be close. The Obamamaniacs will consider that a 'mandate' and scream for their every agenda to go thru because of the 'mandate' they just saw, not realizing (or caring) that they were in the opposite camp in the last Bush election. Madness and furthur division will ensue, as Republican lawmakers grow tired of the attempted bullying by their Democratic overlords and use every legislative loophole they can to make life difficult for Obama. Of course, the media and Dems will blame every failure on the republicans playing partisian games with the country, even when the Dems get their way and it fails. The economy will tank even more once Obama puts in his protectionist policies and rattles his sabre about NAFTA, business will move out of the country when he gets the EFCA passed and our electric rates will triple when he fines coal plants out of existence without having anything to replace the power they provide. Three years in, facing lowered approval ratings and wanting re-election, Obama shifts away from the more liberal side of his party to try and save the still stagnant economy, pissing off his base, while doing little to appease his critics. Shortly before the elections, new technological advances lend a big boost to the stock market and energy creation, which Obama immediately tries to take credit for. More maddness ensues in the next election.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:24 AM) right, yes, no one in this forum has ever criticized Obama, there's never been threads specifically saying what we don't like about him, there was never a FISA thread with 100% of the Obama supporters in here pissed. That never happened... And by the way, northside, I respect how difficult it is to be a mod on this forum and I think you are doing a good job and you are a good poster. But you are incredibly one-sided on who you decide to take issue on. It's heavily slated towards talking down the Obama posters on here. When the conservative posters on here do one of their many personally attacking, offensive posts while crying about what a tough time they are having because of those damn obama supporters, your response is always a neutral, hey it's not everyone, i agree with you on x. When an Obama poster does something that never attacks a conservative poster but usually McCain or a conservative figure in a mocking light, ala AHB or in this case BigSwert, you are quick to ask them to stop. Thin skin? Bad reading skills? poor eyesight? Do you really think that I and other haven't been called out on here? I guess the mind really sees only what it wants to see.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 12:32 PM) The poster, PA, will vote McCain. The state, will vote Obama. If it (the state) doesn't vote Murtha, the whole country could consider that a win.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) So I don't log on for like 3 days and look what happens. I guess I missed a lot. Slacker!

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) Basically almost every group in America now get shielded from comments and jokes and etc. They receive what I'm going to call Politically Correct Protection. Currently, I'm thinking the last groups to get this protection are Mexicans, French, and White Conservative Males (thanks to a couple friends for extending my list) My prediction is the last person in America to be left out of the PC umbrella will be my buddy AlphaDog. The middle class, white, suburban, conservative, male with zero Democrat leanings. He'll be a Letterman punchline for a long time. I was going to say Rush, but he has that great drug addiction to help him out. Nuke, where is he, has the whole Veteran thing that is now in fashion. PA had a chance, and he may still win. We'll have to see how religion plays out. And the media guys will always take care of their own. And who put the P in PC? We know it will not be a politician. So that leaves Alpha. Sorry Bud. Good luck. What say you America? You forgot that half my family comes from redneck sections of Kentucy, Tennesee and southern Illinois. I don't see anyone jumping to the protection of rednecks yet, even though Murtha insulted them in Penn. But maybe soon.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 10:49 AM) Just more BS from the GOP. s*** stops tomorrow, that's all that matters. I guess this proves Soxy's point.