EvilMonkey

Hell, just hitting on half the cylinders works well. It is when they are running one 2 out of 9 that just cannot happen. It was a fun week spanking the Twinkies.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 09:13 AM) All Hail President Putin of... Germany???? SOunds like he was channelling his inner Obama.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 09:31 AM) So linking an article by a union website is biased, but not the New York Post? A newspaper that referred to Senator Barack Obama as "Osama" (Bin Laden). Ok. I showed you numbers that showed that violence has been dropping at a drastic rate, countering your source (which I mocked). You mocked my source only. Do you dispute that things are getting better there? Do you disagree that things are improving? Why should the US not help ourselves, and a potential ally, in an area where we have very few. He is also one of the few in the area standing up to Chavez. Or do you think Hugo is a good guy?

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 02:04 AM) And since the U.S. economy is completely going in the tank and Canada almost totally depends on the American economy this won't mean dick for Canada anyway. Columbia is one of the biggest importers of heavy equipment like bulldozers. I am sure that Caterpillar here in Illinois could use the extra orders they would get from reduced tariffs. That would help keep many union employees working in this state alone. Those orders could go to New Holland (owned by Fiat), Komatsu, Hitachi or many others NOT based in America. Many a boost to keep our economy out of the tank would be this trade agreement?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 8, 2008 -> 05:11 PM) Iraq does what US Republicans won't. NOt related to Coluimbia. Go away.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 8, 2008 -> 07:28 PM) So you have no problem with things like this. You should never reward murder. http://www.teamster.org/08news/nr_080515_5.asp Ok, first, i don't think you could have found a more biased article if it bit you in the ass and said howdy. Look at the article you posted. 400 murders since he took office 5 years ago. How about it going from a high of 275 in 1996 down to 39 last year? How few does it need to be before it is ok? Zero? Because that would be an unrealistic goal anywhere. http://www.nypost.com/seven/04282008/posto..._lie_108526.htm But I guess working with a country trying to do the right thing is bad, so we should instead have lunch with Hugo.

inks a Free Trade agreement with Columbia. This will now help the CANADIAN economy, instead of the AMERICAN economy, all thanks to some American unions twisting the sacks of the Democratic politicians they control. You would think the unions here would welcome the opportunity for increased business. I guess not. You would think that with the rampant anti-Americanism in South America that the US government would be anxious to have a pro-American ally in the area in Columbia. I guess not. Dems like Pelosi would rather pal around with Hugo Chavez than engage a pro democracy country like Columbia. http://www.reportonbusiness.com/servlet/st...y/Business/home

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...8-6-2008_pg7_14 So in other words, do as we say, or else. What's the over/under for how long it takes the EU wussies to cave in to their Islamic overlords?

Dead voters voting. I wonder who they voted for? No potential for fraud there. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/04/de...ling-officials/

As I alluded to in a different thread, Obama's supporters would resort to subtle racism against McCain. Here, in a Koz thread, they gleefully point out, in a not-so subtle way, that McCain's ancestors used to (gasp!) own slaves! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/6/190...8666/547/531338 I wonder if they forgot that Obama's ancestors owned slaves too? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle1466665.ece

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/special...;SECTION=EUROPE

Barak, at some of his more eloquent moments. Good for a chuckle.

Alelrod & Barry, needing to get their stories straight.

http://www.meetbarackobama.com/

That's good, even if it may be fake.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 01:42 PM) People are taxed out? You do realize how much higher the tax rates were even just a few years ago, let alone a few decades ago? Yes, taxed out. And priced out. Food is more, gas is more, everything is more. Make taxes more and you are just adding to the average persons problems. Government needs to be smaller, not create new carbon monitoring agencies with the authority to levy and collect taxes. And yes, I know that congress will to the actual taxing, and the IRS will do the actual collecting (or will they?) but I think you get my point. This will just be creating another monster that will never go away and will require endless amounts of food (and by food I mean tax revenues), and provide endless job opportunities whose utmost concern will be self-preservation. Next you will say that carbon taxes need to be global, and feed into a global fund to protect the planet. No thanks.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 01:39 PM) Just like it's killed Europe's economies over the last few years (even though, again, they did it the wrong way by handing out credits to polluters). Um...Don't people pay taxes to have to drive a car? I pay a car tax, I pay a tax on gasoline, I paid a pretty hefty sales tax when I purchased my car. Add yet another tax and see what happens. Revolt! Well, maybe not in the revolutionary sense, but people are taxed out. It would be easier to raise an existing one than to create a new one. But even that would be met with as much resistance as possible. And for the moment, the only tax I have on grilling is the effect on my intestinal tract if I cook the meat rare like I like it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) It's going to have to happen, and it's going to have to happen soon. Depending on what you do with the profits, it's also possibly done in a way that benefits everyone, i.e. you spend some of the money to offset the costs to the lowest-income people, you spend a good additional chunk developing mass transit options and renewable resources, and suddenly you've dramatically improved the future of the country. Europe's problem is they didn't do it very well...they sort of went with the plan McCain is proposing. And I'm serious...the biggest flaw in their setup is the key part of his plan. This does NOT have to happen, and will kill this country if it does. If you want to target the biggest polluters with extra fines, etc., fine by me. But making it so Joe Sixpack has to pay a tax to drive his car to work or grill a hamburger is just wrong, and will never pass.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 01:52 PM) Let's put it this way...I'd have been willing 8 years ago to trade drilling in ANWR to the Republicans in exchange for a real, solid, alternative energy program. I'd make that same trade today, although now I'd demand a carbon pricing system in addition. I would go for the alt energy program, but no way or creating acarbon pricing system. The little guy who can't afford the options is the one who will be screwed, not the rich who can afford pay to erase their guilt. Rising energy prices regulate carbon emissions pretty darn good all by themselves.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 12:13 PM) It will take 10 years to develop ANY new energy source in a big way, give or take. It might as well be something that won't bankrupt the country's future. OK, let me change that But I agree with you, we ALSO need to aggressively pursuit alternative energy. You can sell it to conservatives as a way to f*** over Chavez and the Arabs. Trying to ram it down people's throats with guilt won't work.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 10:04 AM) Funny, no matter who the Dems are running, its always the "most liberal person eVER!" Well, think about it for a moment. For both sides, the most 'energetic' bunches are the fringe elements (neocons and ultralibs), and they vote the most in the primaries, so of course most of the time the candidate will be on the fringe. The main elections is where they usually try to get a little closer to the middle without pissing off their crazies.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 5, 2008 -> 09:45 AM) DNC: Lobby Money is Banned They'll just accept it as small, personal donations from the people that work for lobbyists and PACS, that's all. Just like he says he won't take money from big business! No s***, sherlock, nobody can. But you sure will take a private donation from the CEO, CFO and so on.

Democrats for McCain!

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 03:27 PM) I'm not sure what your issue is here. Obama is not asking him to be the VP. He's asked him to be part of the staff that vets the potential VP. Johnson isn't being asked to help out with policies or stances of the Obama campaign. I think you are manufacturing your own outrage. I honestly doubt this is something that will impact voters. I think you are confusing outrage with something else. Everytime someone points out something wrong or something that doesn't look quite right, it isn't 'outrage'. Now if the reply would have been something like "That f&cking Obama chose that a$$hole to pick his vp! He couldn't pick his nose right, how's he gonna pick a vp!", you might have outrage.