EvilMonkey

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 11:10 AM) You gave a link to hate crimes, not terrorist attacks, and it doesn't list any information about the perpetrators. That makes it useless in defending your claims about those who commit the acts. And, perhaps, is there some good reason to differentiate some hate crimes as terrorist attacks and others as something else? Hey, how about the FBI or Europol reports you haven't even commented on? You've objected to one report because it was done by Muslims, but what about these other two? Well, I commented on the one I had read. And reading comprehension seems to be eluding you. I never claimed all the anti jewish attacks were done by Muslims. I said that at least some of them HAD to fall under the same category as the deli worker, who was counted as terrorism, yet that study left them all off. Bias? Laziness? Stupidity? Whatever the reason, it shows that the stats are not right. OK, the Interpol one tells me that the Muslim terrorists are pretty stupid. 3 attacks and 179 arrests. the separatists seems to have been able to pull off more stuff. Probably all the inbreeding among the less educated. Also noticed it said ZERO right wing attacks or arrests. Nice. Will have to read the other one later, work to do.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) And the FBI's list you keep ignoring? Or the Europol report? What report or data are you basing your "most terrorists are muslims" on? 9/11 and the shoe-bomber? I gave you a link. If you are blind, stupid or choose to ignore it, that is your problem. If you are going to classify hate crimes as terrorist incidents, be consistent then with the reporting.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:55 AM) But why must an anti-jewish hate crime be carried out by a Muslim? I think you need to check your premises. It doesn't. But your report listed ONE attack by a white guy against a muslim deli worker as a TERRORIST ATTACK. Then in the next line said there was only one anti-jewish TERRORIST attack/plot against Eric Cantor. I say that the attack on the deli worker would fall under a hate crime instead of terrorist attack. IF the deli worker is a terrorist attack, then at least SOME of the 1300+ anti jewish attacks should be classified as the same. WHat it shows is that the stats used in that story are cherry picked to suit the needs of the Muslim group that reported it.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:50 AM) Please share data. I'd like to know of these daily terrorist attacks against jews by muslims. FBI hate crime stats are not up to date on theirweb page, with 2009 being the newest available. That 'report' listed a hate crime against a deli ckerk as a terrorist attack. If that is a terrorist attack, so are the 931 anti jewish ones listed below. 931 equals more than 1 per day. incidents offenses victims known offenders Religion: 1,303 1,376 1,575 586 Anti-Jewish 931 964 1,132 353 Anti-Catholic 51 55 59 25 Anti-Protestant 38 40 42 17 Anti-Islamic 107 128 132 95 http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/data/table_01.html

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:47 AM) Oh, daily reports of terrorist attacks against Jews? Do share! Anyway, the FBI's list, compiled through 2005, is available through the links. It's their definition and categorization. Unless the FBI is also cherry-picking to prove some political point, your criticism doesn't work. If you are counting hate crimes as terrorist attacks, like the deli worker case, then yes.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:13 AM) The guy who crashed his plane into the IRS building in TX last year? AirLINE. Not airplane. Did he go thru a TSA grope before he got on his plane?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 09:57 AM) BTW this is categorically wrong. As King Targets Muslims, There Have Been Almost Twice As Many Plots Since 9/11 From Non-Muslim Terrorists Who Commits Terrorist Attacks In Europe? The second link is completely f-ed up. They count a murder of a single deli clerk as a 'terrorist attack/plot'? There are reports daily of Jews being attacked by Muslims (and others) that I don't see listed under the 'anti-Jewish' plots. It only lists one against Cantor. They are cherry picking data like most people do to prove a point.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 10:05 AM) nope, but that goes right back to the core problem of assuming that most terrorists are muslims. When was the last non-muslim hijacking of an airline? Or attempted anything of an airline? And the shoe guy was a Muslim.

Anyone see an issue with the source?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) Where did you find that info? http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitge...,744851,00.html

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 07:19 AM) So what happens to this terrorist? Do they have the death penalty there? The max security prison there has horseback riding, tennis courts and woodshop classes. A real hard prison life, for sure.

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They can cut Saturday AND Wednesday. Time to streamline, unions or no. I have limited dealings with the post office, but they just cost me a huge client because it took them 3 f-ing weeks to deliver a bulk mailing from Joliet to Joliet, and the 'save the date' cards didn't arrive until 2-3 days before the event. I paid the money to have the things sorted and all that other crap, doing their work for them to get the postal discounts, and they STILL can't get it delivered in time. And the postal workers were uninterested when I dropped the order off, as if they didn't want to be bothered by my order, and indignant when I asked them why it was taking so long.

And since 80% of the country is Christian, do they have to keep saying Christian as if he was a minority? Are they that relieve=ed that it wasn't a Muslim that they have to repeat it constantly?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) His motives were caused by his incredibly radical politics as far as I've read. Then so was the guy that tried to whack the congresswoman in Arizona. Any condemnation you want to heap on one side for this had better be equally sent the other way as well. But I sure saw a rush to non-judgement once it was revealed that THAT guy was a far left loon. Politics don't make you shoot kids. Evil does.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) The sad thing is that this sort of exists right now if you look at how the negotiations have been conducted for the debt hikes. Not really. The Dems have yet to put any proposal on the table. They TALK about them, but nothing has ever been presented.

You guys all miss the point. When you get to this level of crazy/evil, the politics don't matter. While I assign evil motives to many on the Dem side of the aisle, they don't extend to blowing up buildings and shooting children. This guy was crazy/evil. Nuff said.

More stories out now claiming that the claim by the Muslim group was a hoax and that the one guy is probably responsible for both. The story will change again, i am sure, as we get more news.

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.s..._of_aggres.html more story at link, but that it the main jist of the article. This is the guy that earlier in the year sent pictures of himself dressed in a tiger suit to staffers.

Evil exists in people like this. He was ID'ed as Anders Behring Breivik, a local business man, and supposedly no ties to the earlier bombing, which had been claimed by the Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (the Helpers of the Global Jihad).