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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 02:22 PM) If guns will be just as available why is it shown by facts that higher rates of gun owners=higher rates of firearm caused death? Just a little snippit: BTW, the difference is almost entirely attributed to handguns. There is no disputing those numbers. But now let's compare the number of gang members in Canada to the US. Now, as an experiment...let's take all of those gang member and move them to Canada and let's see if all of a sudden the gun violence in Canada doesn't skyrocket while ours falls precipitously. The situation is far more complicated then most people here seem willing to admit.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) You will never be able to get rid of guns, but right now there are more guns than people in the US. If you could somehow cut the number of people owning guns down, innocent people getting shot and possibly killed will go down as well. I don't know if it would have prevented what happened today. But getting a gun is too easy. The problem is getting a gun is too easy in multiple ways, both legally and illegally. It's a rough problem to solve since the box has already been opened...there are guns everywhere...and it's not just in the US like a lot of people are busy pretending right now. If we collected every gun in the US right now, I bet that country a bit south of Texas would be more than happy to sell a bunch to the people that really want them.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 02:16 PM) 31 fatal U.S. school shootings since Columbine. School shootings in every other country in the world combined since that time: 14. Many other countries have their own gun problems. They may not be of the school shooting variety, but let's not pretend their own slew of problems don't exist, either. It's important people allow their emotions at the moment to simmer down, they're allowing anger to creep into their opinions and they way they speak to people.

This would not uninvent guns. This is typical knee jerk reaction that doesn't solve the problem you're all attempting to solve. We tried this with prohibition. Didn't work. Drugs are illegal, but they're f***ing everywhere. How do you assume this would work any differently with guns? All you'd end up doing is creating an illegal and very dangerous black market for guns, and the problem remains unsolved. Oh, and this black market wouldn't give a s*** any laws or any kind of waiting period or gun law...if you had the money, they'd sell it to you. Reality people. Please live in it.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2...g?1355511419512 If you don't want to feel emotional, don't click. Woman seems to be reacting to the worst news you can possibly hear. She was waiting to hear if her sister, who worked in the school was among the living.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 01:55 PM) Don't want to go on too much of a tangent, but social media is just a diary that others read. If you claim you're depressed, people just say "aww, sorry. here's some fake encouragement." No one actually acts on statements like that, they don't report it at all, or seek help for that individual. I'm not saying people are obligated to do that, just saying social media isn't used how it could be used. I call that Vaguebooking for sympathy. Post various but vague status, I.E: Prepare for onslaught of fake sympathy, and aww, what's wrong?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 01:22 PM) Turn it off. I'm not watching any news reports with kids being interviewed. I'm saying the fact that they're doing it in the first place is media exploitation of kids...it's sick.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 01:18 PM) The media needs to stop interviewing children. Seriously...this is exploitative IMO.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 01:12 PM) You've made me curious but I'm not going to click on that. Same. I want to click it so bad, but no. I'd rather speak negatively of him here than make his Facebook page popular.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 01:01 PM) Things like this make me scared to every try to raise children. I know we can't live our life in fear, etc. But the world is a ridiculous place. This is just so...I don't even know the word for it. I'm sitting here watching it on TV, it's almost like this can't be real, can it? It's hard to actually comprehend this is real, this happened. I know we argue about mindless stuff on end on here...but God bless all of you. None of that's important in the grand scheme of things. It puts things in perspective in a hurry, doesn't it?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:57 PM) My first child is due to be born any day now, I don't even know what to say or think about it. You'll know exactly what I mean the second you see and hear that child. At that point it will no longer be a love you can imagine...but a love you can actually feel. Congratulations, by the way, it's a big deal. At least you gave us a second to share a happy thought in the midst of this story. :/

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:41 PM) This And you can never truly understand this until you're a parent...I know I didn't quite understand it until I *actually* loved something more than my selfish self.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:34 PM) this is traumatizing 1000 miles away. I can't imagine how those involved move on. I hope they can find meaning in the rest of their lives, and those lives lost I hope they find peace in death. You never move on. The worst thing about being a parent is the constant worry about losing your child. And the worst thing that could ever happen to a parent is they outlive that child. The worst. I'd sooner die an endless amount of painful deaths than live to see my daughter die peacefully once.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) Thats what I dont get, what was your point in shooting kids? Bullied? Lonely? Whatever. Those kids did NOTHING to you. Worse...I believe one of the kids was the shooters own.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) tl;dr

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:21 PM) Im pretty that you wont be able to bring a gun into a school regardless. Yeah according to this site, http://www.usacarry.com/connecticut_concea...nformation.html it is illegal to have a cc in an elementary school. These are the Conn. exceptions: Places off-limits when carrying: 1. A permit to carry is required to carry a handgun outside one’s home (even though one may still be on his own property) or in any place of business in which one is merely an employee, not an owner or operator. A permit is also required to transport a handgun back and forth between one’s home and place of business, or to and from a range for target shooting. 2. It is unlawful to possess a firearm on public or private elementary or secondary school property. This prohibition shall not apply to a person with a firearm carrying permit, with permission from school officials, or while traversing school property with an unloaded firearm for the purpose of gaining access to lands open to hunting or for other lawful purposes, provided entry is not prohibited by school officials. Most states allow CC. Right. So once again, the laws prevent the law abiding citizen among us to do exactly this. Didn't stop the gunman, though. Because it never stops the bad guys...just the good ones. I wish guns were never invented...though I'm sure if they weren't, it would just be something else.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:19 PM) Bush's fault Not necessary.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) Unfortunately these p*****s generally take their own lives. Well, I'm not a religious man, but for once I'll forsake my own beliefs, and I hope there is a Hell so this son of a f*** can burn in it forever.

What the son of a f***. What kind of evil trash do you have to be to even be capable of pulling this off? Innocent people...and kids. KIDS. Those who haven't even had the time in their short lives to truly live. I really don't have words enough to express my anger, or sadness. I hope anyone involved is somehow dealt a punishment worse than death. I wish them to be subjected to endless torture throughout eternity.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 09:51 AM) It might be better in terms of the UI since they had to remake the whole app. They've been just adding on to the Android version since 2009. The first thing I noticed about Apple Maps was how much better the UI looked compared to Google Maps. But looks aren't everything. The Android version has some features that the iOS version lacks, like the ability to save maps for offline use, which I think is a very big plus. The offline use is a huge plus, but I'm sure features such as that will be included as time goes on. Obviously, as a first release Google's goal was to get it's new maps app out in the wild, without releasing an "inferior" product...so basically, it needed to work very well with a basic feature set and then they could add more later. They've obviously succeeded in this. I believe the Android version also has a means to connect to it's contact list for addressing information, and/or allow you to save and rename way points...for example, on their current iOS app, it wouldn't allow me to save "X's house", as a destination name...but it shows the address.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 09:45 AM) Once again you get so defensive in your replies. I didn't even criticize anything about Apple in my previous post yet you always need to go off on these pro Apple, anti everything else rants in response. You are the the ultimate fanboy trying to convince us otherwise and you've proven it over and over again. I get defensive in my replies because ignorant people such as yourself basically force me too, with s***ty dismissals of anything I write here as merely a "fanboy" to be ignored. You obviously have no clue what a fanboy is, then. But since you called me out, again...I'll shoot your disparaging, ignorant bulls*** down in flames. Again. Chrome > *. And when it comes to Safari...well, Safari sucks. Period. Gmail > *. It's better than Microsofts alternative Hotmail, it's better than Yahoo mail, it's better than whatever s***ty .me/.icloud service Apple has. It's not even close. Google Search > *. Bing may be a close second, but it's too cluttered and messy for my liking. Thus my default search engine, on every computer/device I use is set to Google. Those are a few applications/functions of Google I use on a *daily* basis, in a personal AND professional manner. As a user/administrator of Google Apps, I actually house my own domain names on their servers as to use link my domains to their Gmail system. Instead of @gmail.com, I have @.com, courtesy of Google. A fanboy does not use a "competitors" services, because they view anything non Apple (or Microsoft, or Google, or whatever their fanboyism is connected with), as exactly that...a competitor, as if they have skin in the game. I don't do anything like that, but people such as yourself continuously, and ignorantly, claim I do. Which shows, like I said, you have no f***ing clue what a fanboy is...which is a tech insult for those that actually understand it's true meaning. As a person that 1) actually knows what he's talking about, and 2) actually uses a wide range of technologies and services personally and professionally, I find your comments toward me quite hurtful...and I really don't know why you do it. Your continued dismissal of me on this thread is ignorant.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 13, 2012 -> 09:09 PM) Holy crap Y2HH. Either you're a paid PR person for Apple or you have some sophisticated search program that finds any miniscule criticism of Apple which triggers you to respond in lengthy detail each time. Yes, my "sophisticated" search algorithm is called reading this thread, which is mostly attempt after attempt to bash anything Apple, with little to no objectivity. I've stated it multiple times...and I'll state it again...unfairly bash Microsoft or Google, or practically any other tech company, and I'll be just as quick to defend them against uninformed posts, too. Technology is actually a passion of mine, thus my long winded posts. You're just mad that I was right when I said Google would release their own maps application on iOS, and end up having to give Apple everything it requested for it's map application, only free, including turn by turn, etc. You asked me in this very thread...are you sure about that? I was sure. And the icing on the cake is Google admitted it's iOS maps app is even better than their own Android app. Take that, jolly green giant.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 13, 2012 -> 11:14 PM) He's my Evil Apple twin, or would that me make HIS Evil Apple twin? Either way, you get the idea. ...and I'd have to destroy you, but first you must suffer through impossibly long winded posts I make in defense of anything you disparage.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 13, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) So you're saying it was bad PR? Okay then, that's all I was saying. It absolutely was. Key word is was.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 13, 2012 -> 03:12 PM) I honestly don't see how it's a good PR thing... Your opinion is that any press is good press. That's true to an extent, but not when that press is bashing Apple left and right. Sure it shows that Apple takes responsibility, but what kind of good company doesn't when its products are awful? Just because Microsoft didn't acknowledge it doesn't make it a common thing. No, that's not really my opinion. Bad press is bad press in this regard. The any press is good press only applies to newer companies trying to get noticed...Apple is already noticed. It was bad PR for Apple, there is no doubt about this, but for the most part the bad PR didn't result in very much in quantifiable damage to the company. Their image took a short term hit, they attacked it, got rid of those sourced to their problems and moved on. The press tends to bash whoever happens to be on top...this is common. If/when Google is on top, the same will happen to them, because negative press has been shown to generate more views/clicks, etc...which equates to more ad revenue. Microsoft went through this in the early/mid 2000's. A lot of good, very profitable companies don't make changes when it's products or strategic decisions are awful... Recent Examples: Research in Motion Microsoft HP Dell Yahoo Adobe ...and many others. Apple made drastic changes very quickly in response to the debacle that was Apple Maps. This is NOT common in companies this large...changes on that scale often take years, if they ever happen at all. On the back end of this, Apple emerged with their own mapping solution, which a LOT of people use, despite the negative press -- and now they have a FULL version of Google Maps (for free) on top of it. If anything, they took what was a negative and turned it into a neutral, if not a positive.