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QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:12 PM) There are people who do exactly what they're told, when they're told, work extra hours, do good work, and still aren't kissing ass. Some people do lose my respect for completely kissing ass, to the point where they are doing ANYTHING and everything to impress the boss, i.e. personal matters, socially, etc. Some people are slaves to their boss. Have fun, I'd rather not do that and let them control my life. There's a happy medium. Actually, there is more than just a happy medium...and that's the entire point. It's not where you are now, it's where you're trying to get and the most feasible path to get there. If the difference is in you finding some sort of dignity in 'not kissing ass' (whatever that even means) versus getting where the "ass kisser" gets, then so be it...call it what you will. If it works, it works. While you call it saving face and having dignity, I call it climbing the ladder. Getting ahead. It's business. Business works in many different ways, this being just one of them. It depends on the sort of boss you have, first and foremost, their sense of humor, personality, etc. If you're any good at feeling people out you can use this to your advantage...and it doesn't matter if schlep A sitting in their cubicle thinks your an ass kisser because you chat the boss up...schlep A is going to lose when promotion time comes around because of it. They can enjoy their faux dignity, I'll enjoy the raise and promotion. In the end, I don't work for some company, I work for Y2HH.org...for my family. Period. And if being overly nice to the boss helps my family, then I'm going to be overly nice to the boss. Oh, and If the "ass kisser" (as many of you seem to love calling them) doesn't mind doing what they're doing or even likes their place in X company, shut the f*** up and stop complaining...you don't have to do it, and further, you don't have to be there. You are no one to judge, either. But don't b**** when they're getting ahead of you because you perceive them to be ass kissers...and that's exactly what I see a few people here doing. Hard work will only get you so far...knowing the right people and having the right people like you will get you the rest of the way.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 08:47 AM) More than on election days? Or normal Presidential speeches? That's hard to believe. It's not often the president actually asks the American people to get on their congressman's websites and write them. Obama did just that, and this was the mass response from his call to action.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 08:31 AM) Hackers? No, just bombarded with actual traffic.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) If you're gonna write one, might as well make it as badass as possible. Just a waste, otherwise. Unless people read it, as many of you are actually doing.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 07:45 AM) I hope you know that post in the other thread was in jest You're in jest!

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:08 PM) You're entertaining as s***, it's just like "oh for f***'s sake, really? not again... omg I have to suspend his ass" Sometimes someone has to say what everyone's secretly thinking!

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:28 PM) You mean I can grow up to be a terrible poster who sold his soul, too? No, you will grow up and realize that while a lot of what you say is ideal, it's not feasibly possible in the reality in which we live. You will learn to accept that reality (you haven't yet), regardless of it sometimes sucking, something young people refuse to do out of sheer idealism. That never say die attitude and all... As you age, you will realize things don't change because system as it's become doesn't allow it. It [the system] will ruin you after you accept it for what it is during your age of understanding, which is your mid 20's. There is a saying, "The older we get, the smarter our fathers become." You will also realize that all of this is better than it seems to be...and life is awesome. That having a drink on a cool evening with friends or family watching the sun set is a far greater rush than going out clubbing to pick up chicks or discussing politics with a bunch of like minded individuals on a forum if that's your cup of tea. It's an appreciation of life you don't have yet -- you think you do -- but you don't. And when you are in your mid thirties and think back to when I said this, you will understand. I know...I was once 25, too. I can now understand how much I didn't know when I was in my twenties...and accept how much I don't know now. I'll get off my cynical soap box now...because this will fall on deaf young ears anyway.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:01 PM) (i've never banned Y2HH... for the record) You've always had my back! I'm not exactly sure why though. I thought you hated me.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:43 PM) http://www.pbs.org/nbr/site/onair/transcri...id_cote_110112/ COTE: I don`t think there are many CEOs out there who would say, geez, things are booming, but I`m uncertain on regulation, so I`m not going to hire people. While I`d be the first to admit that uncertainty on regulation doesn`t help, at the end of the day, I think the bigger driver is uncertainty of demand. What's awesome is before I clicked your profile, I said, "I bet this guy is in his mid 20's". You and I aren't all that different, as it turns out. This might really scare you: When I was 25, I was basically exactly like you, nearly point for point. Fast forward 10 years, and look at how much the world has changed. Oh, and I voted you as a 5 star poster...because I hate when people down vote peoples ratings just because they don't agree with them.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 08:40 PM) Edit. Damn, so much to say but I just can't. I do understand and agree with the "who you know" part, but the first part is pretty ridiculous now, unfortunately. No it's not.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 08:53 PM) The CFPC charged people with basically that a couple months back, keeping oil off the market just to push the price up. And for the record, I hate speculators of commodities as much as you seem too. I think speculation should be much harder and more rules imposed. If it were up to me, if you cannot accept delivery of said commodity, you speculate with it. And I know, speculation fans, why you can't do this...leave me alone.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:02 PM) Bingo. It is the same reason prices haven't come down even with the evil swipefees going down. The saying "buy on the news, sell on the rumor" exists for a very good reason.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 08:53 PM) The CFPC charged people with basically that a couple months back, keeping oil off the market just to push the price up. They're not taking oil off the market to push the price up, they're paying more because it's worth more due to the disappearance of the subsidy. It all comes down to supply and demand. Oil speculators know that subsidy exists, whether it's big or small, it exists...so they know it shaves money off the price of oil...if it goes away, they can add that back in at a premium, and it's not remotely illegal to do so. What you are talking about isn't remotely close to what speculation is...and this would be pure speculation. IE, you are completely free and clear to speculate that oil would cost more if that subsidy disappeared. And if enough people speculated that same increase, oil then increases in price.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 08:43 PM) Taking supply off the market because you are mad about a political decision is patently illegal. Only that's not quite how commodities markets work.

You two are seriously funny. 1) Because you're both smarter than you pretend to be. And 2) When you're done with your circle jerk of absurdity 'they cheat, but we don't', let me know... Seriously now. This is my impersonation of a political conversion between Balta, Strange, and Y2HH, and it's pretty accurate: StrangeSox: Hey Balta... (green colored text) Republicans don't cheat, lolol. Balta: Hey Strange...lolol, I know...democrats rule...we do everything right. Global warming. StrangeSox: I know...lololol...we're the best. Y2HH: Hmmm...interesting. Let me construct a huge ridiculous strawman for the fun of the troll and eventually get banned for saying something mean and dumb. That's what this entire subsection has basically broken down too now.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 07:56 PM) Then they ought to go to jail since altering a market like that is illegal. Of course, if you defund the regulator, you can do that. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Speculation is NOT illegal. They're not "altering" the market, speculators are merely predicting the price of oil would rise due to a subsidy kill. Keep in mind, oil companies do not and cannot set the price of oil, so most of those "altering the market" rules do not apply in this case, since we are talking about a commodity...the market itself sets the price of oil based on various variables, including availability, supply, demand, subsides, cost of transfer, etc. The subsidies are merely one of many factors prince into the cost of refinement.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 07:51 PM) That we create oil subsidies and then there's no change and the companies pocket the price in either case? Yeah that's the opposite of what you said would happen. You argued that getting rid of a subsidy would lead to a price increase. If this is te example, then we ought to get rid of subsidies and skyrocket taxes because the price won't change. The price would change. Whether that be fair or not, the price would change. The speculators themselves would rocket oil upon the end of subsidization just on principal, whether it would or should actually do it or not. Hell, if a oil producer even sneezes these days and it hits the wire, oil goes up 3$.

QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 06:40 PM) What's the correct answer when an employer is asking for your salary requirements? Is it wrong to be ambiguous and say that its up for negotiation? Pay isn't the only factor when deciding if I want a job. Or does is seem as if I'm being difficult and chances are they will skip me because I don't give a straight answer? No, the correct answer is it's negotiable. As in, depending on other benefits, work environment, etc...pay could be higher or lower. Example, if you want me to work nights in a heated 110 degree basement...I'm probably wanting something extra... If you're quick witted and know how to deliver lines like that, you could actually use stuff like that in an interview and make them laugh. Key in an interview isn't knowing the most...it's making the best impression. If they remember you because they like you, thought you were funny, personable, etc...that goes further than knowing everything but being a boring blah face.

This is going nowhere.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) I just think you are dangerously wrong here. And so are the idiots saying CUT 15 TRILLION AND CUT TAXES IN HALF NOW!!! We agree.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 09:00 AM) I go bareback. Agreed. Phone cases, unless for a holster for carrying on a belt, are totally useless to me. These phones are often beautiful, and nice to hold/feel. Covering a sleek device, turning it into a monstrosity in order to "protect" it, when you can't see what's being "protected" makes no sense to me. Use the phone as is, and after it has a year of wear and tear on it, THEN cover it up with a bulky case where you can no longer see the phone (or the scratches you've added from use). Phones are often replaced after 12-18 months of use anyway, why do you care if your phone is brand new looking UNDER A CASE, when nobody can see it since it's covered in the first place?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 08:35 AM) One interesting note re: Germany and the U.S. Germany's GDP actually took a larger percentage hit in the collapse than the U.S's did and has only recently recovered to the level the U.S. is at. However, unemployment in the U.S. took a much larger hit than Germany did, and has not even begun to come close to recovery. When people talk about the "house of cards", and why people are so worried about a possible US default, (which won't happen, btw), is because in the world economy the US is the foundation for the entire house. If we fall...they're all coming down with us. And they know it.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 09:07 PM) Yup, go find an offer from someone else and tell your company that you feel like you are being overlooked and unless offered a promotion will go to a company that appreciates your talents/effort. Oh, and make sure that your manager or whoever actually knew that you wanted that position. I've seen that a lot in my time at companies that a person feels like the were neglected in regards to promotions but they never even had mentioned that they wanted to move up. Sometimes it's that... Or you can just play the game and get the promotions. I give nobody any credit, "kudos" or "props" for not "kissing ass" in order to get ahead in the business world. This is how the game is played, if you don't want to play it, don't...but don't b**** when you get passed, either. Also, do note I surround the words "kissing ass" in quotes because it's a bulls*** term when related to business to begin with. Those people you claim are "kissing ass" are also the ones that do exactly what they're told, when they're told, and work extra hours that you're totally unaware of, etc. I know, because I've been accused of the same in many places. I'm an ass kisser, that's why I get the vacations I request and the promotions. Right. I'm also the guy the boss would call at 3am when something was broken, and fix it...only to come in that morning at 7am and work the entire day. Oh, and if it was a friend of the bosses...you just got welcomed to how the really real world really works. Balmer wanted to stay at Harvard and study finance. I'm sure he would have made some decent money, too... But his stupid friend Bill Gates told him, "f*** Harvard dude, come help me at Microsoft". Same with his other friend Paul Allen. Balmer is now worth about 14.5 billion dollars. So is Paul Allen. Had they not been friends with the right guy, they'd probably be working at an investment firm making decent money...but nowhere near $14,500,000,000. Contacts, friends, etc...in MOST areas of the business world, it's who you know. Not what you know or where you went to school.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 23, 2011 -> 11:20 PM) I do enjoy hearing about how it's hurting America so much. It's probably not hurting America any more than the old system, but it didn't help much, either. The few good things it's done are countered by the fact that it did nothing to stop the rising costs of care (which was one of the original intentions). As a matter of fact, to cover the added people now protected by the law (which is a good thing), rates went up even more (which isn't).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 08:07 PM) Oh come on man, I liked twistig the word insane there. That was at least a decent wordplay. It was, but it was annoying.