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QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 10:25 AM) You are so brilliant. I canceled my 9.99/mo service of netflix, and now am putting that toward Spotify. Otherwise I would be doing their free service. Please go on explaining to me the difference between music and video. The reason I asked is because the way you made it sound is Netflix is the same as Spotify (a replacement product)...it's not...which I pointed out. You were talking about your movie/music rental budget moving from one to the other in terms of replacement. I'm sure you could see where the confusion lies.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 10:28 AM) I've used both extensively both for work and play. Personally, I'd go with a Windows 7 PC, as you can get great power and features for a fraction of a Mac price. I really like Windows 7. Windows 7 IS a good OS, it's Microsoft's best OS since XP SP2. And it depends on which Mac you buy. Mac Pros, for example, are clearly overpriced. But if you take the top line iMac, and compare it to similarly specced all-in-ones, it's pretty hard to top in price. I say all in ones, because of course you could piece together an ugly box of components for cheaper, but that's not a valid comparison.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 10:29 AM) Well, anyone using IE beyond 2005 was/is an idiot anyway. I became a Firefox user when I started web development. I then made the switch to Chrome due to it's lesser memory usage. Problem is, many don't have a choice...it's what's deployed across their organizations.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 10:22 AM) in my budget. But it doesn't replace netflix...one is a video service and one isn't. It's music, and I'd never pay a fee for music rental.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 10:05 AM) I went 9.99. I know that's steep but it replaces netflix and the fact that it works OFFLINE on your phone (playlist) is worth it to me. Seriously, i'm rocking it now. THis is f***ING AWESOME. This must be what it was like when the beatles came to the united states. How does a music service replace netflix?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 10:10 AM) They were several years behind Firefox (and other I'm sure) with tabbed browsing. Firefox didn't even come out until late 2004, but that's my point. Up until then, Microsoft sat on their browser for the first half of the decade, adding little and innovating nothing. This is what they always do. It wasn't until after FF came around and started changing things that they suddenly decided to care again.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 08:52 AM) I'll also toss in...the biggest impediment to effectively running a Windows based system is knowing how to run it effectively. If you already know how to operate Windows, Windows 7 is a pretty good OS (esp. compared with the debacle that was Vista), so some of the downside is removed. That said, I'm a Windows user and I F***ing hate Microsoft. Yet I keep coming back because I know how to run all of the programs I need in Windows and have other coding languages I need to learn first. That's seriously how I feel about Microsoft. They represent everything that's wrong with companies when they get too big. That's not to say Microsoft hasn't done great stuff...they do. But what they do is go all out, become #1 in a given arena, and then sit back and do nothing for YEARS after they're #1. Look at IE. I remember when they jumped into the browser wars and truly cared...there came a point that IE was better than anything else out there. Then they sat on IE and did nothing with it for years, which is a LONG time in the computer/tech arena...and they did nothing to change that until they started losing noticeable market share. They do this with all of their products, and it's annoying. So when/if I find alternatives to stuff Microsoft has, I tend to go with it because I know that the odds are far better that the other company WILL stay on top of things for years to come...

Or we can just put it in a more sensible way... Are Fannie and Freddie the sole cause of this mess? No. But they helped, along with many other government arms, private banks, lending institutions, etc...all in conjunction with one another. They're all to blame, in part...we can look at it from multiple angles and say no one entity is the singular cause, but what's the point? People were buying homes with ARM mortgages and the banks / institutions HAD TO KNOW that when these ARMS started inflating, they wouldn't be able to afford them, nor would they be able to refinance due to their already high risk factor. They didn't care. They got their commission...what happened 5+ years down the road wasn't their concern... That is, until it became everyone's concern.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 14, 2011 -> 07:23 AM) Wow, great feedback so far. Thanks! I figured most folks who have used both would recommend the Mac. I suppose my biggest concern is money. But everything I've heard about the Macs is that they are worth every extra penny. I'm just so sick of having a slow computer. All I want to do is surf the web quickly and download music quickly. Well, I dislike Apple fanboys as much as I dislike PC/Windows fanboys. If all you are going to do is browse the web and download music via iTunes, you could do this on a cheap Windows PC, too...with moderately new specs in comparison to your old PC, it *would* be fast. I lean toward the Mac right now, because their overall customer experience is just flat out better, in every regard. I've not only used both Windows PC's and Macs, but I currently use both...and if your interest isn't in playing games, get a Mac if you have the money.

Ever since I started using a Mac, I've never looked back to a the world of PC's. You will pay a premium unless you buy the largest iMac (it's the only iMac competitively priced), but that said, you are paying for the ease of returns, tech support and the engineering that went into what you buy. When/if you do call Apple tech support, you will talk to an American that understands English and isn't reading off of a novice script asking you to reboot your PC 50 times but not doing much of anything else to help. Oh, all that and OSX is about 500x more powerful of an OS than Windows is...considering OSX is BSD UNIX on the back end and you can use all that UNIX awesomeness when/if you choose to learn. At this point, the only decision to make is 1) do you want to save money? and 2) do you want to play games? I ask this because although more and more games are available on the Mac, there are many that are not...yet. And you can save a bunch of money by building your own, or even going with some crappy prefab like a Dell (which I'd never recommend). Then again, those all look like garbage in comparison, too. I've converted my parents and my wives parents to using a Mac, too, which cut my tech support time with them down from about ALL THE TIME to almost never. This decision really comes down to preference and money. I still use a Windows workstation for work, because I have too, but I'm so sick of the Windows world it's a joy to use OSX when I get back home. Oh, and if you order your Mac online, even if you don't go to school, you can buy it out of their education store and save yourself 10-15% just by saying you go to school. If you try this at an Apple store, they will request to see a school ID to verify, but online they never verify. I use the newest 2011 27" iMac and my wife has the 2008 model 24" iMac. When/if I want, I can dualboot it over to Windows 7, too...since I have that installed on a little piece of the drives partition...as does she.

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 10:03 PM) Geez. What are you...OLD??? 35.

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 09:42 PM) You don't know what you're up against. And I'm not even talking about me. I'm talking about her. Not a problemo. Tell her I said this, "Hey, Woman. Hey, Woman! Listen here. Since your old man ain't got no heart, maybe you like to see a real man. I bet you stay up late every night dreamin' you had a real man, don't ya? I'll tell you what. Bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight, and I'll show you a real man." Oh, and if you're too young to get that, f*** you.

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 09:27 PM) My girlfriend says "LAYzier" instead of "leisure". She's also even more conservative Republican than I am. I guess you'd really hate her. Which is good...I don't want you talking to my girlfriend anyway. I'll talk to your GF, what's her #? PM it.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) Mock me all you want. I hate Ozzie Guillen. I hate Kenny Williams. I hate Lakers fans. I hate the Kardashian sisters. I hate people that mispronounce words on purpose. I hate reality TV. I hate people that are famous for nothing (I guess that's the same as hating Kardashian sisters). I hate republicans (nobody on this board, I can overlook that on here because I feel I know certain people from here and they're cool and I don't care, and I don't want to get banned). I'll get back to you later. I got banned once before (in May) for arguing with you.

Carl Everett?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 05:41 PM) I'd just show up and order water and take up your largest table for 5 hours each day.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 06:21 PM) And hilariously obvious about it. Yea, that guy kicks all forms of ass.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 05:20 PM) How do you know this? I wonder if they are offended by this thread. Because there was a time I asked this very question...and a few of them told me. It's not in my mind to say who, however, as that is their business/choice to tell who they choose.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 05:24 PM) Then you'll realize shortly thereafter that turning away 5-10% of your business by not having a vegetarian option available out of anger/spite might not be the best business move. I never said there wasn't one...I'm just not advertising it because this way BS wouldn't come there. Then again, my hatred for BS runs so very deep that I may forego this 5-10% so I don't have to see him again!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 04:52 PM) He said "Serve only animal byproducts". Not "only things including animal byproducts". Sorry, there will be bread/pasta, but all will be covered with butter/cheese to taint it with animal byproducts. Same goes for the fresh vegetable bar...all sprayed with melted butter for flavor. It's not the kind of place you'd want to go if you're one step off a heart attack, but it'll be good!

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) a Yoohoo. Ohh darn, fresh out! Speaking of which, I haven't had one of those in eons...YES, eons.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 05:04 PM) Yeah, but I was thinking out of the regulars. Not somebody like Jenksfart and his 10 posts since 2007. There are others that are regulars.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) sigh. You seem distraught, bmags, is there anything I can get you to revive your hope in humanity?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) Hey I thought of something. Is anybody gay on this board? We could do a poll. Greg775: No. But I have nothing against gays. I would love and accept my child if he/she were gay. To those straight: What kind of women u find the hottest? greg775: I'd go with the look of that girl on the one guy's sig on soxtalk.com; the girl running on the field. Wow. There are gay people on this board, yes. No, I'm not one of them.

When I open my restaurant, it will serve only animal byproduct products...meat, dairy, etc...thus banning BigSqwert without having to actually ban him by hanging a sign that 9 foot tall Vegan Hippy Sasquatches are not allowed in my establishment!