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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 10:32 AM) FFS, read the thread. I've not said Palin's stupidity caused any of this or had any influence on him. You're missing the point, and you're ignoring the validity of addressing Palin's map of cross-hairs targeting Gifford as being inappropriate and that Palin and others should back down from violent rhetoric. Already agreed it's silly/in poor taste, but it's not the cause, never has been the cause, and people are merely grasping for reasons why...where none exist. I've read the thread. So FFS, thanks for asking on my behalf to be assured I'm properly informed on the silliness going through this thread.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 10:30 AM) I don't think anyone is claiming that it did. I've specifically said twice (really quoted something from elsewhere that summed up my thoughts) that this guy is nuts and Giffords was targeted because of location, not because of Palin or any violent right-wing rhetoric. That doesn't mean people can't use this as a reason to step back from said violent rhetoric and point out that it is, at best, irresponsible and in poor taste. I never said they shouldn't, and I agree they should step back from it, because it's silly. But you're linking it as the cause when that's not been established by the facts of the case. Blaming violent cartoons at this point is the SAME as blaming Palin's target map...it's a drawn conclusion with ZERO factual basis.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) Recent violent political rhetoric, some of it specifically targeting Giffords, has a much stronger connection to an attempted political assassination of Giffords than video games. That's not an opinion. Yes it is, considering there is NO evidence backing your claim that there is ANY connection between the two whatsoever...thus it's 100% opinion/speculation on your part. So I repeat, just wanted to clear that up for you, since you don't know the difference between fact and opinion, apparently.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 10:26 AM) Priceless Glenn Beck: We Must Stand Together Against All Violence (With A Gun In Our Hands) I already pointed out the silliness of this in the Democrat thread. Being anti-violence and knowing how to use guns are just about galaxies of difference.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) Linking this attempted political assassination to violent video games or music or TV is much weaker than linking it to recent political rhetoric from her opponents involving cross-hairs, "reloading" and "2nd amendment option". You mean in your opinion. Just want to clear that up.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 10:19 AM) Why did he target a congresswoman and not his boss? His priest? His neighbor? Random people on the street? Perhaps hearing and reading violent political rhetoric from both sides of the aisle had affected him over time. Violent symbolism in politics is completely over the top and needs to be repudiated by the politicians/pundits that use that king of rhetoric. Who knows how that type of talk will affect the loose nuts out there in the future. I maintain that the only reason he targeted her in specific is because of his locale, and he had past meetings with her that didn't go well in his eyes. If he had lived in another state, it probably would have happened there, instead. I don't think it had anything to do with a target map whatsoever.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 10:05 AM) I"ll concede your point about the "overwhelmingly from the right" but Palin specifically had a sniper's target on her website with Gifford's name attached to it. Gifford even commented on it and said that it could lend to violence (paraphrased) in a video in recent months. It's not the first time I've seen such sniper targets used in political press over the years, and it's not something that always comes from the right, or Palin in specific. And it doesn't matter...it's a metaphor, a stupid metaphor IMO, but a metaphor nonetheless. Pretending it was or is something more is silly at this point. Next we can point to violent video games, violent music, or violent cartoons that caused it! Not that people haven't done this throughout history, and are still doing it rather futilely. But let's take cartoons in specific...well, wait...modern cartoons aren't very violent, but the ones I grew up watching should have made me (and everyone in my age group) a mass murdering, anvil dropping, meat cleaver chopping, shot gun blasting, TNT detonating. straight razor slashing whack job. I mean, I watched Tom & Jerry everyday... The silliness, it seems, will never end.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 09:50 AM) Because the overwhelming majority of violent rhetoric in the last 2 years has been from the right. And the guy most vilified from your side as "being the same", Olbermann, went ahead and apologized for any comments he had made and recommended that everyone do the same. That was the whole point. Palin and others didn't bother to apologize and saw no reason to. And AGAIN, I am not blaming Palin or anyone on this specific incident but they have to have some self reflection, as Olbermann demonstrated, and say "Hey, that wasn't right what I said/did back then...I'm sorry and won't do it again". In light of recent events and the things you're saying now, why do you still find it necessary to say, "more of the violent rhetoric in the last two years has been from the right", as if that dismisses or makes what little of it came from the left dismissible via comparison? Also, this considers your even right about more of it coming from the right, as there are zero tangible statistics that can prove such a thing...being someone who stands mostly in the middle, I've seen plenty of it from both sides over the years, and one pointing to the other saying, "Oh yeah, well...they do it more than we do!", doesn't make it okay.

I'm happy with their off season tinkering and deals. That is all.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 07:51 AM) Dude, welcome to politics in general. What Middle Buffalo fails to understand is that our attendance in the Filibuster is > his.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 9, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) Because the difference between AAA and MLB is very big. Brian Anderson

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:56 PM) Is this a commercial I don't get? Some guy that looks like TCQ does All State or State Farm commercials at a baseball stadium or airport...and they're bad. Like TCQ playing defense bad.

TCQ sucks balls. He's a terrible car insurance salesman, and an even worse baseball player.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:48 PM) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/g...l_n_807011.html Reaching. It seriously isn't hard to poke fun at Beck, but knowing how to fire a gun and being trained on weapon safety and contributing to violence via guns are two WAY different things. I've fired guns for years. I was even trained to pass the Chicago police firing exam. Yet, I've never killed anything with a gun, ever, and I don't condone violence, either. Roll of the eyes on this one.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:40 PM) LOL, hopefully someone at least had a drink for me. It wasn't a very good conversation, and we had a FEW drinks BECAUSE of you.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 04:59 PM) Everything after the first line of your post is an argument that teachers and firefighters are vastly overpaid. And I still continue to disagree. I agree unless Balta is a teacher or firefighter, if he is, then they're overpaid.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 02:23 PM) Why, whoever do you mean? Didn't Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig die years ago?

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) Hopefully, the conversations stayed away from politics. Somewhat. Either way it doesn't matter, as none of are able to do something as well as others.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) it just amazes me that he is so popular, especially with beliefs like this. Because people are attracted to sensationalism. There is nothing truly gratifying about watching a train wreck, but if you ever see one, try looking away...it's pretty hard to do. :/ Glenn Beck is a train wreck...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 01:27 PM) He's the only one who's received any direct communication from the 2008 Republican Vice Presidential Candidate since this event happened. He's making news right there. He's been elevated to a legitimate part of the discourse. Doesn't mean he needs to be listened too.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 01:15 PM) I hate to say it, but you've gotta laugh at this email exchange between Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin about the shooting. Especially this part. "Sarah, as you know, peace is always the answer. I know you are felling the same heat, if not much more on this. I want you to know you have my support. But please look into protection for your family. An attempt on you could bring the republic down," Beck wrote. "There are nutjobs on all sides...terror is terror. I don't care if it is for Allah or your party." Seriously, an attempt on a 1/2 term former governor of Alaska, is going to bring the Republic down? Seriously, why do you read from or listen too Glenn Beck? He's a sensationalist doing what he does...sensationalizing.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) So did everyone get their flu vaccine this year? Yes. QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) Everyone eating right, Sometimes. QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) avoiding fast food, No. Why would I? QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) staying within their healthy weight, Yes. QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) getting enough exercise? Yes. QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) Brushing their teeth three times a day? No, because that's too much. QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) No one smoking here, Not here. QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) no one doing drugs. Alcohol, so I'm doing drugs. QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) Or are people picking and choosing what we want to follow from doctors? My doctor never told to me to never eat fast food, or always eat right, or any of the above. Common sense tells me when enough is enough...and I sorta follow that. I don't skydive without a parachute either, without needing a doctor to tell me so, common sense does that, too.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 09:57 AM) No, I'm a broadcasting major, and I'll be in front of a camera a lot, and I'd like to be able to mix it up. Plus, I just love suits. Then hit up MW and look around...don't necessarily go there to buy, just tell them you're looking until you're ready to buy. You can good decent suits at a low cost there. You can also head to Macy's and look for some deals, they often put them on sale at really big savings. Remember, you can have a suit tailored at any tailor, you don't need to have it done in house...all you need is the basic fit.