Y2HH

Yea, Floyds hat is hax. You can see it's a different color on both sides. As for this new gameday -- at first I thought we had found a system exploit here but as it turns out -- this is the first thing I've seen thats slower and dumber than Joe Boarchard.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 02:47 PM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/mlb/gameda...1&brand=cws bottom left hand corner. U R A GOD RAY. This is the GAMEDAY I was looking for. We were all staring at Joe Borchard like TRASH.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 02:46 PM) how are you getting those lines of what is happening? Hax.

Floyd's ability to get groundouts was one of the reasons we got him -- at least I believe that to be the case, but I very well may be talking out of my ass right now.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 02:39 PM) Johan had a good outing today: 3 IP 1 hit 3k's 1.80 ERA for the spring Johan had a good outing. And the sky is blue. And rain is wet.

OMG. Live box score sucks beyond comparison. Live box score sucks more than Joe Borchard.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2007 -> 02:30 PM) Aj cant seem to get a hit What are you all watching/hearing this game on?

QUOTE(Tannerfan @ Mar 7, 2007 -> 09:42 AM) I think everytime I've seen a "Levin reports" thread on this board it has always been wrong. Well...hopefully this one isnt.

Haven't had my chance to chime in here yet... I like the deal considering the current market combined with the potential we know he has. The reason why is, well...I have a feeling Vazquez is going to have a break out season for us. I'm not sure why, I just have a feeling. Last time I had a feeling like this? 2005. I had the funny feeling the Sox were better than people said they were in 2005 -- so I laid down a bet they'd win the AL pennant in March of 2005. I won.

QUOTE(Y2HH @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 03:15 PM) Terrible. But...doesn't mean anything other than personal fan-dom satisfaction when you do well in spring training. I'm hoping this is due to Buehrle/Garland working on pitches they haven't quiet perfected, or working on arm slot or location rather than actually throwing a regular season calibur type of game. It is possible they are both working on the gyroball. At least that explains the score.

Terrible. But...doesn't mean anything other than personal fan-dom satisfaction when you do well in spring training. I'm hoping this is due to Buehrle/Garland working on pitches they haven't quiet perfected, or working on arm slot or location rather than actually throwing a regular season calibur type of game.

Oh no, the seasons over. Last place. For the first two weeks of spring training, pitchers should not pitch well. They should be working on pitches they cannot throw properly, or pitches they have troubles with. Throwing the pitches they already know they can pitch is beyond stupid. It's practice for a reason. So this is exactly what I expected to see.

Baseball. Rules. Preseason opening day rules. Warm weather rules. Go Sox in the first game day thread of the year!

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) Over the course of his career Podsednik has been bad more often than he has been good. This includes a 1.5 year run of suck that he is currently on and he's coming off a devastating injury for a speed guy which often results in a few months of recuperating and nagging soreness afterwards. To rely on this guy again this year, to not have a single acceptable backup plan is just stupid. I'll bet you a beer that Pods rebounds.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) You are correct. However, what makes you think Podsednik can ever get back to that level again? But to answer your question for real...I think Pods can return to that level because he's done it before. He had a career rookie campaign with the Brewers and fell off harshly the year after. When we originally signed him, he rebounded huge for the 05 Sox. Pods has it in him, we've all seen it...and he's also has shown the ability to bounce back. He helped bring us a World Series title. I think the least we can do is give him a chance to proove the naysayers wrong before pulling the plug. I think he's earned that.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) You are correct. However, what makes you think Podsednik can ever get back to that level again? What makes you think he can't?

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 01:20 PM) Pods has been injured since second half 2005. That's long enough for my liking to say that he's lost his speed, and is thus a no-tool player. And when he was at his best, he was a 1.5 tool player. That's barely acceptable. It's acceptable when he makes the difference he did in 05. The White Sox were simply BETTER when Pods was out there in 05. Or at least they played like it. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 01:22 PM) You must not like your LF's to produce at the plate or provide adequate defense. Yea, that must be it. So how did we do last year with this awesome plate production and adequate defense of Mackowack platooning? Oh, thats right...3rd place. The year before, with Pods...how'd we do?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 22, 2007 -> 12:20 PM) Rob Mackowiak was a more than acceptable replacement. Ya know, I like Mackowack...but he just didn't do it for me in a Sox uniform, even considering where he's from. I felt more comfortable with an in jured Pods out there than I ever did with Mack. Not really sure why, either.

Dye/Anderson/Ichiro = the black hole, where balls will never land.

A predict a White Sox return to the playoffs. Suck on that prediction, naysayers!

QUOTE(bad at best @ Feb 21, 2007 -> 04:03 PM) I'm excited about our pen this year. It sounds scary. However; I kinda wish we had at least one guy that didn't pump fastballs. Some weirdo submariner or junk ball pitcher. Anybody else think a little variety might make our pen more dangerous? We can always go dig up Shingo and his frisbee junk. :/ Nothing wrong with junk ballers, but I prefer them to be starters like Buehrle than relievers. Later in the game players tend to be either fresh off the bench or tired from playing all game, and a blazing fastball is always more devastating in the late innings than a 69mph slow hooking junkball.

I agree. A lot of baseball players try to act 'classy' when it comes to their team, but in the end it's about the money. Dye has proven once before that he's a man of his word and he'd take a little less money for what he wants or promised. I believe he'd sign a fair contract today if presented to him. I, for one, have no issues with players seeking money, it's part of the business, but staying loyal and playing in a park where you are comfortable and know you can continue putting up good numbers is just smarter than taking the extra 2M dollars and jumping blind into the unknown. I've seen a lot of players do this and end up tanking because they were removed from the very environment that contributed to their success. See people like Carl Pavano. Everyone in the universe knew his numbers were a product of the stadium in which he pitched, and although he jumped at the money the Yankees offered, he also tanked his career and in the long run, may have ended up costing himself quite a bit for the shorter term gain. I'd love to see Dye stay here, he's everything Frank Thomas acted like he was. Add to that, the word 'class' is too easily tossed around in sports.

I've been here long enough to know what people fashion themselves after, and I have no issues with looking at and discussing potential weaknesses of the team. That said, spring training has *just* begun, and we haven't seen anything out of the new look Sox just yet. Right now, they aren't even being armchair GMs because they haven't had a single look at the team we are fielding yet, they're being paper GMs, and if that's the case...where is our WS trophy from last year? Because we should have won it on paper...and look where that got us. I have no issues being objective after we've seen a little action, at least spring training action...but I've seen Erstad and Pods being called failures before anyone has seen them do a single thing on this team this year. This isn't last year. Or the last 1.5 years. This is this year. Let's see what THIS team, THIS year has in it...before we start calling individuals a failure...when we may end up with a replacement thats even worse...even if he looks better on paper. Everything I've been reading is conjecture and thoughts based on "last years performance". Sox fans of all fans should know how much that works in this game...as based on 2005, our pitching staff should have dominated in 2006...but the opposite happened. One year to the next is night and day in this game. I just figured we would have learned that. But since that's what we're doing...I'm gonna go out and say Pods will be great this year...after all, based on his past, he's usually better after a down year (every other year!).

Analysis of this thread, and almost every other similar (and annoying) thread on this board as of late: Person #1: Erstad will suck! Person #2: So will Pods! Person #3: Regurgitate what person #1 said. Person #4: Regurgitate what person #1, #2 and #3 said. I mean...wow. Just. Wow. Almost all of you are literally hoping that Scott Podsednik fails before day one, just so you can be right. Same goes for Erstad. Call me the odd man out that actually hopes the team succeeds, but this isn't even fun anymore. Read baseball on this depressive board for a half hour and you feel like we haven't won a world series in 99 years like our counterparts up north. Maybe one or two of you will be man (or woman) enough to step up if Pods or Erstad succeeds, where if they don't, all of you will play the "told you so" game. Two seasons off a world series, and already some of you sound like the same old malcontent fans that expect failure so much, that you actually hope for it. And I know...I'm the bad guy for saying it. I'll get flamed endlessly because, "I'm st00pid" or I'll get the standard cookie-cutter replies of "thats not what we mean at all...we just want the best for this team" crapola...but I'm not buying it. We all want whats best for this team...but this is it. This is the team we have. Live with it. It's almost spring. It's supposed to be a new beginning with new hope. Around here...it's not a new beginning we new hope. Call the season...we've already lost. Podsednik will be horrible. Erstad will be horrible. Ozzie will make terrible decisions (because you say so), and we will come in 16th place. -Y2

If the boys are gonna make fun of big Jim for appearing on Oprah...do we get to make fun of Al Lopez's Ghost for watching it?