Palehosefan

Murton was rated as the Red Sox' 5th best prospect. Here are his strengths and weaknesses. His numbers weren't too great last year, don't know about this year. Strengths: Murton got pull conscious and lengthened his swing last spring, but he hits better with wood bats because he shortens his stroke and lets his power come naturally. The Cape’s 2002 home run derby winner, he has more pop than any hitter in the system. Boston makes all of its players in Class A or below keep notebooks on hitting, something Murton already did on his own. He runs well for his size and is a four-tool player. Weaknesses: Murton’s weak throwing arm relegates him to left field. His swing has more effort than Murphy’s does. If he gets much bigger or stronger, his speed and range likely will dip below average.

Basically he had 3 great starts in early to mid July, only giving up 1 ER in each. Then his last 2 starts have been terrible, those are the two I'm betting Ozzie was talking about that he was tipping his pitches.

Means he's doing something different on each pitch. They simply watch what motion he does and they know what pitch is coming. It happens to alot of pitchers, their own team usually doesn't notice until an opposing player mentions it after the series is over.

Cabrera is a very nice SS, the Red Sox did well. Orlando is solid defensively and offensively. You will see.

I have to say, thats a pretty even trade. If anyone gets screwed a little its the Cubs, but Nomar is a heck of a player also.

Here is the lists from BA.com 1990 Wilson Alvarez, lhp Sammy Sosa, of Robin Ventura, 3b Scott Radinsky, lhp Wayne Edwards, lhp Adam Peterson, rhp Frank Thomas, 1b Roberto Hernandez, rhp Craig Grebeck, ss Ron Stephens, rhp 1991 Johnny Ruffin, rhp Roberto Hernandez, rhp Bob Wickman, rhp Norberto Martin, 2b/ss Wilson Alvarez, lhp Cesar Bernhardt, 2b Jeff Carter, rhp Greg Perschke, rhp Jose Ventura, rhp Ramon Garcia, rhp 1992 Roberto Hernandez, rhp Mike Robertson, 1b Johnny Ruffin, rhp Brandon Wilson, ss Rod Bolton, rhp Scott Ruffcorn, rhp Bob Wickman, rhp Scott Cepicky, 1b Greg Perschke, rhp Derek Lee, of 1993 Jason Bere, rhp James Baldwin, rhp Scott Ruffcorn, rhp Larry Thomas, lhp Steve Olsen, rhp Johnny Ruffin, rhp Chris Snopek, 3b Mike Robertson, 1b Rod Bolton, rhp Brandon Wilson, ss 1994 James Baldwin, rhp Scott Ruffcorn, rhp Robert Ellis, rhp Scott Christman, lhp Jimmy Hurst, of Eddie Pearson, 1b Ray Durham, 2b Chris Snopek, 3b Brian Boehringer, rhp Steve Schrenk, rhp 1995 Scott Ruffcorn, rhp James Baldwin, rhp Ray Durham, 2b Jimmy Hurst, of Chris Snopek, 3b Jeff Abbott, of Scott Christman, lhp Eddie Pearson, 1b Carlos Castillo, rhp Greg Norton, 3b 1996 Chris Snopek, 3b/ss Jeff Abbott, of Scott Ruffcorn, rhp James Baldwin, rhp Jeff Liefer, 3b Mike Cameron, of Jimmy Hurst, of Luis Andujar, rhp McKay Christensen, of Greg Norton, 3b 1997 Mike Cameron, of Jeff Abbott, of Jeff Liefer, 3b/of Greg Norton, ss Chris Clemons, rhp Josh Paul, c Brian Simmons, of Mario Valdez, 1b Tom Fordham, lhp Carlos Lee, 3b 1998 Mike Caruso, ss Carlos Lee, 3b Magglio Ordonez, of Lorenzo Barcelo, rhp Jim Parque, lhp Jason Dellero, ss Brian Simmons, of Jeff Abbott, of Jason Lakman, rhp Mark Johnson, of 1999 Carlos Lee, 3b Joe Crede, 3b Aaron Myette, rhp Mark Johnson, c Brian Simmons, of Kevin Beirne, rhp Jeff Liefer, of/1b Jon Garland, rhp Pat Daneker, rhp David Lundquist, rhp 2000 Kip Wells, rhp Jon Garland, rhp Aaron Myette, rhp Joe Crede, 3b Jason Stumm, rhp Aaron Rowand, of Matt Ginter, rhp Dan Wright, rhp Lorenzo Barcelo, rhp Mark Buehrle, lhp 2001 Jon Rauch, rhp Joe Borchard, of Joe Crede, 3b Matt Ginter, rhp Dan Wright, rhp Lorenzo Barcelo, rhp Brian West, rhp Aaron Rowand, of Josh Fogg, rhp Jason Stumm, rhp 2002 Joe Borchard, of Jon Rauch, rhp Corwin Malone, lhp Matt Guerrier, rhp Joe Crede, 3b Tim Hummel, 2b/ss Kris Honel, rhp Miguel Olivo, c Dennis Ulacia, lhp Aaron Rowand, of 2003 Joe Borchard, of Miguel Olivo, c Anthony Webster, of Kris Honel, rhp Jon Rauch, rhp Corwin Malone, lhp Andy Gonzalez, ss Felix Diaz, rhp Arnie Munoz, lhp Royce Ring, lhp

As much as I like Peter for being a Tar Heel. He's completely nuts. Also they could have talked Randy into accepting a trade to LA.

Tony if you want some good advice, don't read the boards after a loss. Its always gonna be this way. I have been modding another board for 5 years now and its ALWAYS been that way. You have some good opinions and shouldn't leave because of negativity. Just my opinion.

Philly used to be excited about Justin and Pavel's potential also, they just never lived up to it. Now its Gagne that the fans have turned on and are ready to let go.

Sean May's a good player from the Bloomington area. Also to the Oden wanting college right now thing. Thats what they all said when they were young. Dwight Howard was completely set on going to college, he is even going to take classes at UNC while in the NBA. The lure of multi millions is too much for anyone to pass up, especially being the #1 draft pick. That would be insane to pass up for him.

Guys, Oden has about as much of a chance of going to college as Lebron did. He's already starting to get that kind of hype. Derrick Caracter will likely be following him along.

I'm all for getting Hairston. He can hit for average and steal bases and play defense. I'm just not sure which one should play 2nd base and where the other one would play. Would Jerry be in CF or RF? Also I would wonder if Jerry could stay off the injured list. Dave Roberts would be decent, but his average has been terrible the last few years.

I didn't know that about him. I guess that cartoon was more right than I wanted to admit. I wonder if he's gonna follow in Nate Newton's ways...

lol I'm sorry I meant as in prospects, that why I posted it here. I will go back and change to make it more clear.

Since we are close to the deadline. I wanted to see who everyone thinks should be untouchable prospects in trades. I have a short list. 1. Sweeney 1A. Anderson 2. BMac 3. Valido 3A. Schurnstein

As much as I'm enjoying these arguments. I think everyone has made their points. Don't want to tell any mods how to do their jobs as I hate when people do that to me, but lockdown?

Great post kapkomet.

Well thats what I get for posting half asleep lol.

Timo just takes some bad lines to the ball. That complicates the problem with his average speed.

I guess this could have come from the promotion of Gio. If Winston and Birmingham didn't have any room.

That is the strangest promotion I have seen in a long long time.

Its part of baseball, just like spiking someone and beaning someone in the head with the baseball is part of the game. But in most cases there is payback for those incidents, which is also part of baseball. But not for Ozzie... Anyways, nobody is going to win this argument, just let my thread die a peaceful death.

lol look what I started. All this arguing from us and Tori is just laughing his ass off tearing up catchers, getting rbi's, and stealing bases. :puke

I guess because he did what people didn't like. He chose to be happy himself over making others happy. He's not a moron, he just made this decision at the wrong time.

Yes but UNC didn't get passed on the court. They got passed through revision of record books. With Roy back the records likely aren't going to change much, both Tubby and Roy are gonna have very good teams for a while. I also expect ND to have a nice year, Torin Francis needs to step his play up.