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QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:58 AM) Yeah, I was once of the first members on this board, have poured hours into SoxTalk/FutureSox, and I'm an idiot for disagreeing with you. God forbid someone else thinks otherwise of you, the guy who believe the season is over with 30+ games left. Good job with the personal attack and the spelling too, duders. Yep, there's no reason for his personal attack. I even advised him earlier to try and discuss things instead of not accepting other's viewpoints.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:58 AM) I only listened to the end of the game, but I saw that Mack started in center again. I think thats three times in the past week. How bad was the Cora play? Was it as bad as sending AJ home against Texas? No, but it definitely changed the momentum in a game where Radke had nothing.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:57 AM) Basically saying that they came here to kick our ass and they look more determined. Mentioning how all their players were up on the rail rooting each other on, etc. That's pathetic if our manager has to say that.

Here's a solution: just pull Vazquez after the 5th inning if the outcome is still in doubt.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:53 AM) Cotts should be replaced on the roster if he can't be used in the 6th to get a lefty out. That's a GM problem. Would you have preffered MacDougal & Jenks pitch the last 3.1 innings? That's a great way to burn out your pen before September. For those 10 outs, there's no doubt in my mind we had a better chance to win if we would have just used our big 3. I would have sacrificed my bullpen for tomorrow in order to give ourselves the best chance to win tonight. We still have this solid pitcher named McCarthy in the bullpen....but Ozzie doesn't like him.

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:48 AM) I don't think Ozzie can win with some people here. He pulls Vazquez in the 6th, like most of you want to do. You can't bring in Thornton or MacDougal in the 6th. You didn't see Gardenhire bringing in Rincon or Reyes that early. Blame Cotts and Riske for being garbage. You absolutely could have brought in Thornton or MacDougal in that situation.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:51 AM) 1. Cora shouldnt be waving anybody in that situation unless he is darn near %100 especially with less than 2 outs. 2. OZ shoulve definitely pulled JV after the 5th no questions asked. 3. OZ shoulda made Jenks pitch 9th...you make them beat your best...especially in a nonsave situation. other than that "what new?" Pods should have never been allowed to face a lefty in the 6th inning with 2 men on.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:51 AM) Did Ozzie dive across the plate for a ball clearly outside and poke a three-run homer for Minnesota? Did he hit the hanging slider from MacDougal when the best the Twins could do against Mac's fastball were bleeders back up the middle? Jesus, shut up already and credit this loss to absolute lack of luck. Lack of luck? You have to create your luck...how come we never get any luck against Joe Nathan? You bring up a good point about the terrible pitch selection against Bartlett. AJP has been brutal with pitch selection this year, and I'm one of his biggest fans. QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:52 AM) Except of course this idiot reached way into the field of play and banged into Morneau. Wait until he's close to the stands before you go after him. He turned a difficult play for Morneau into an out. Gee thanks, idiot fan for making out #27. Seriously, that guy doesn't deserve any blame.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:49 AM) McCarthy is on the team still yes. I guess pure luck is a hitter with 2 strikes taking the ball to right. That has never happened before with the twins. They never hit oppo with 2 strikes. That wasn't pure luck....Hunter had a great approach that AB, and he didn't try to pull the ball to LF. I don't know how Riske gets guys out this year, as his stuff is rather bland (88 mph high fastball and average offspeed pitches).

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:47 AM) Do you want to trot out MacDougal in the 6th? Ozzie was absolutely right in putting in Riske, and it was pure luck that Torii dove across the plate for a ball that was a good two-three inches outside and punched it into the seats. Why not put MacDougal out in the 6th? We needed 10 outs, and our big 3 relievers are all fresh. What boggles my mind is how Ozzie says he's so nervous about Nathan. If that's the case, you can't go f***ing around like he did with our worse relievers in the 6th inning. Also, it's almost getting to the point where I wish we did trade McCarthy. Ozzie's use of him is just pathetic.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:43 AM) If we hadn't won the World Series last year, I'd say Ozzie HAS to be fired after this season. The WS blinders are the only reason I am not saying that yet, his sorry ass is lucky the pitching won him job security last year. I actually agree with this, and that's why I know he won't be fired after this season due to on-field stuff. The only way he's fired is if he says some more inappropriate things in the media.

Please no one blame the fan. Hell, he at least tried to help us win. That's more than I can say about quite a few of the guys who played tonight.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:40 AM) a big mental mistake by Joey Cora really cost us tonight! who knows the outcome of that inning if he doesnt wave em.... The sooner he's fired, the better.

David Riske is a very good pitcher in games that aren't tight.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:29 AM) What should have been done differently? Lets see....in the biggest game of our season, we bring in Neal Cotts to face a very good lefty. Cotts can't get any lefties out right now. Predictably, two pitches later, there's a hit. Then, we bring in our 4th best righty out of the pen, and the guy is notorious for being terrible in clutch situations. One pitch later, and we're trailing. Then, with two guys on in the bottom of the inning, we let one of the worst starting players in baseball hit against a tough lefty. Predictably, he hits a weak grounder to 1B.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:37 AM) Twins are a better team. It's a shame. Their manager is leaps and bounds better than ours.

Ha! That's quite fitting. f*** YOU OZZIE! I hope you quit.

Another guy taking strikes, and swinging at balls.

Right down the freaking plate. Another tremendous sub by Ozzie tonight.

They have him set up for the low and in slider. I don't know how he's fouled off the last two pitches.

Make contact Alex...please.

Does Ozzie know that Iguchi is good against righties?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 03:27 AM) nice work Pods. My thoughts exactly...thanks for saying it, as people will respect it more from you than me.

Good job Pods...now don't get picked off.

Cintron will hit for Iguchi, but not Pods? Ozzie is just terrible.