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Good start to this game. It must be nice to have a leadoff hitter that can create so much offense.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) God I hope not. Yesterday's Sun Times had the quote. If someone can find it and post it, I'd appreciate it.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 09:44 PM) That's pretty funny that within the past few days we've had IMO the best and worst quotes of the season from a person in the White Sox organization. The AJ quote is beyond perfect, there should be a serious sense of urgency right now for this team and I can't say that I've seen it from them but this quote shows me that atleast one guy in the Clubhouse knows what the current situation is. The worst quote, was from Guillen talking about McCarthy, Brandon went out there last September and put together 5 starts that the Sox desperately needed, HE was the best pitcher in baseball last September picking up 3 victories and posting a 1.69 ERA/0.91 WHIP on a team that was circling the drain, I'm not sure the Sox even make the playoffs last season if he doesn't step it up in the final month. For Guillen to speak ill of him like that was just sickening. BTW, was Mariotti accurate when he wrote that Ozzie Guillen said that the reason Joe Crede is good is because of Ozzie Guillen?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 09:35 PM) The fact that she was in Playboy makes me think she really doesn't care how many barely legal girls her husband is nailing on the side, as long as she still gets to spend his money. ^^^ It's official....anyone who has a wife that was in Playboy should be released by their current team.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 09:23 PM) Well yeah obviously I'd do her too, but she's not like extraordinarily hot or anything, and certainly Lo Duca should know better than to cheat on his playmate wife with her and cause all this trouble. That, and cheating on your wife isn't all that honorable either. I'm sure this was his first affair.

"I'm tired of people saying there's time," Pierzynski said. "There's not time. You got to go out and do it." This is the best quote I've seen out of the White Sox organization all season

QUOTE(MarlinFan84 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 09:05 PM) I dont know if I am a good poster or not. I just hope I dont come off as trollish. After what the Marlins did in 2003, you can talk crap about my mom in every post, and I wouldn't have a problem with you.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 08:46 PM) Can a great fan also be a great poster? Sure...but just because you're a Sox super fan, it doesn't mean you're a good poster/smart baseball person.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 08:40 PM) thats too easy...plenty of non good sox fans stayed up for that one....now if you watched every pitch of the marathon boston game just before the break thats better...tho i think the best one was if you stayed up in 03 to watch the game i believe vs. KC after a long rain delay, the game didnt even start til like 10 and hten colon gave up 8 runs....sox came back to nearly win Trust me, I've talked to plenty of people that consider themselves "the greatest Sox fans on the planet" who went to sleep prior to the end of Game 3. Unless you're in a coma at the hospital, there's no excuse for a living Sox fan to not be able to watch the full game. QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 08:41 PM) Especially because that game didn't mean nearly as much. I believe the game was against Detroit. I had tickets for the game, but I left after an hour and a half.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 08:06 PM) And none of them were for anything more than mediocre talent. The Guardado deal was a great low risk, high reward trade. I can't believe some people actually thought Majewski was going to be a great fit with that team at that park. I still can't believe they gave up Lopez/Kearns.

A good poster should only talk about being a good Sox fan if they stayed up for all of Game 3 of the WS.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 07:53 PM) A good poster knows how to spell Sox player's names correctly. What's wrong with John Garland, Mike McDougall, Freddie Garcia, and Scott Podsednick?

QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 05:28 PM) Or they are like Bobby Jenks/Kerry Wood and just can't pitch the innings required without likely getting hurt. (I think this was the case with Gagne, although I could be wrong) Or maybe Gagne went to the bullpen and discovered something magical

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 05:23 PM) Your right, Liriano, Santana, all the other saviors had real problems in the pen. Care to back up your opinion with any proof? From my experience, it is easier for a pitcher to go from the starting rotation to the pen, then vice versa. You have guys like Gagne, etc who have become dominant in the pen. Gagne was a SP prior to being converted btw. A lot of the times, starting pitchers are turned into relievers because they lose their velocity as their pitch count increase and they only have one or two pitches (example is Neal Cotts). McCarthy is the opposite of this type of pitcher. Someone like Liriano shouldn't be used as an example...he's a rare talent. QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 05:24 PM) Fathom, If B-Mac's problem is the pen, then why are his stats basically the same this year as last year? It would seem that if the pen truely was a problem he would of tanked. If McCarthy is as average as you think, then everyone in our organization should be fired for not being willing to trade him for some marquee talent.

QUOTE(MarlinFan84 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 05:17 PM) Some, if not most, guys who have been conditioned to start for pretty much their entire wont be much more than average out of the pen. Especially someone who's not coming out of the pen throwing 98 mph. McCarthy's a "feel" pitcher, and I don't think he's confident in his offspeed pitches coming out of the pen.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 04:29 PM) Agree or not with him, he is probably being asked the same questions day after day. Just like it comes up here every day. Sooner or later he has to respond and use Brandon's name directly. He's saying why he doesn't think he'd be a better option, and he is correct in a way when he says lots of people think McCarthy is Superman, although yeah, he could've done it without the sarcasm. Yep, McCarthy is definitely the "back-up QB" right now in terms of his reputation among fans. Like I said, I know that Ozzie isn't going to replace one of these starters unless there's an injury. I just didn't like the snide remarks he made about his performance last year. It was unnecessary, and it comes off as ungrateful for the HUGE boost McCarthy gave us last year. All he had to do is say that he believes his 5 guys right now are his best options. People might disagree with that, but Ozzie/KW and the ones that have to live with their decisions.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 03:53 PM) Ozzie's diss of McCarthy and unwillingness to put him into the rotation almost feels Dusty-like. Especially when you factor in the constant days off for Brian. Why is Ozzie so averse to using his young stars? Dusty's the opposite of Ozzie when it comes to criticizing players.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 03:38 PM) Ozzie is managing. He's showing one of his main players that he'll stick with him through his slump rather than give in to irrational rants from fans and media about an unproven kid who may be good, but may not be. People are talking about Brandon like they did about Garland 5 years ago. It took Garland 4 years to become an above .500 pitcher. Buehrle is roughly 30 games over .500 in his career. Ozzie doesn't need to check his f'in mouth. We all know that Ozzie isn't going to change the starting rotation. That's been obvious all season. But did he really have to make comments like that regarding McCarthy? I just don't get why he has to bash McCarthy for a rookie year campaign in which he improved drastically his 2nd time up from the minors.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 03:38 PM) When did he say that? It's in the Tribune today. It's rather pathetic.

I couldn't believe the Guillen quote in which he said McCarthy pitched bad for the Sox last year. Yes, he struggled out of the gate. However, he was our 2nd best pitcher for the last 1/4 of the season. Ozzie doesn't need to bash McCarthy in order to justify keeping him out of the rotation.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 03:32 PM) Two years from now, you'll have an old, slow ballclub with untradeable, overpaid veterans. If you are in the front office, you have to give a damn about baseball business. If you are just a fan, you can let your heart influence your opinions. Well said. I'm a little concerned that next year we're going to fit that same category. However, at least our old, slow players are the ones performing well this season.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 03:23 PM) Haha I'd have loved to see that myspace page. Lo Duca is SO screwed, the Mets are going to have to trade him or something, else he'll be eaten alive in that town. He'll be just fine. I'm more shocked when I hear that baseball players are faithful than I am when a story like this comes out. She's a hot 19 year old....his street cred just went sky high.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 04:00 AM) We do have Ruben Rivera in the system. Superb comment! QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 04:06 AM) No love goes out to Ozzie, even though he did a fine job managing the bullpen late in that game (I believe at least). I said it in the game thread that I really thought he did a good job bringing in Jenks in the 9th with a guy at 3rd. I've criticized him for not showing a sense of urgency when we're trailing, but he did show that proactivity tonight.

Almost a carbon copy of the Indians winner he had earlier. Awesome win! Great job Jenks.

JD needs to stay back on these pitches. They're going to try and gas him up and away.