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Norton keep us in the WC lead for another day!

Unless a team makes a come back today, it's been a terrible day in the standings for the Sox.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:45 PM) Ive seen enough of Pablo for a while He was an intergral part of this team prior to his injury. Since the injury, he's absolutely useless. It's too bad we have to wait another month for September call-ups.

QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:43 PM) And? we need them to perform... why even have them on the team then.. he's our last guy in our pen, i dont think Kenny had the same thought process when he made the move. Is this serious?

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) Phew, atleast we don't have to face Ryan now. We can get some on, get one in, and THEN face Ryan to kill our momentum. He'll still start the 9th, guaranteed.

QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) the know it alls are wrong once again... what a great pen. Yep, since there's no difference in going to the pen in a 4-3 game or a 6-3 game. Seriously, if you think our bullpen is so bad, then why should we even watch Sox games?

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:37 PM) Who HASN'T scored runs against Dumpster? The guy is terrible. Just stop....please!

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) Don't get upset when they have a point. Ozzie treats his starting pitchers like five-year-olds. As if them getting the wins makes the team play better than if a reliever gets the win instead. I'm waiting for Ozzie to break out the snacks and juice to make the starters feel better, because it's obviously more important to coddle your starting pitchers instead of using your brain. Maybe we should hope Ozzie starts to acquire some relievers that are his "buddies".

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) Agreed. But before those games, he always said I want my pitcher to get the win. In a recent interview, he talked about taking people out on a high note to give them some confidence, and get the team a win. It's 100% obvious he didn't do that today. I finally thought Ozzie was learning how to manage, and it all relapsed today, apparently. You'll be able to follow baseball a lot better if you don't listen to a word the manager/GM/announcers say about how they're going to play the game.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:27 PM) This one takes the cake because of what Ozzie recently said about taking pitchers out on a high note, and trying to get the team a win. He CLEARLY reverted back to his old self and left Jose out there. And it backfired, again, like ALWAYS. Again, there are about 20 other games where Ozzie probably should have pulled the pitcher sooner than he did today.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:26 PM) I said the same thing a few weeks ago. You really almost have to do the old "tip your cap" to the Tigers. It's too bad they're in our division. You really have to admire how they're winning this season. They're playing like the Indians did the last 1/3 of the season last year, but they've kept that up almost all year. You can tell they expect to win games, even if they're down at the end. They wanted to upgrade in LF, but Craig Monroe has been great for them now.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:25 PM) This game has pissed me off more than any all year. Wow...I can name 20 other games off the top of my head which were more disturbing.

QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:25 PM) Just today? At least he makes me look optimistic.

QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) I highly doubt that. The bullpen is not good, I dont see how half of you can manage to perform a miracle here. The bullpen isn't good? Well, since our starting pitching isn't very good, I don't know why they should even play then.

QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) Your posts are funny to read, I'll give you that. Yeah, he's gone overboard today. Take a step back Tito....it will be ok!

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:21 PM) It's okay guys, we went 6 for 9 on this roadtrip, against two of the worst teams and then the best offense. Oh wait, did I mention the Tigers swept? Who cares about the Tigers! This was a very good road series for us. If we can go over .500 during the next 2 weeks, we'll be in a good situation.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:19 PM) It's seriously getting to the point where I wouldn't mind a new manager in the offseason. Or maybe create a new position, Pitching Manager. Let Ozzie keep his job so people don't freak out BECAUSE HE WON TEH WORLD SERIES OMGZ! Enough is enough, we've lost an unbelievable amount of games because of bag managing. Now, I'm not saying we would have won all of these games, but Ozzie's bad managing has put so many of them completely out of reach. FWIW, we're not losing this game because of Ozzie. We're losing it because only our 3-4-5 showed up on offense, and Jose Contreras just isn't the same pitcher he was during his great stretch. Also, our outfield defense is running in concrete today, and theirs is making some very nice plays.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) How the gosh darn was this game Ozzie's fault? It's Ozzie's fault Iguchi doesn't have the range to get to that softly hit ball? It's Ozzie's fault Iguchi had a mental fart and didn't throw home? You're reaching at best, here. I was saying in general that Ozzie shows no urgency if we're losing. Catalanotto rarely faces lefties, and they don't have anyone dangerous on the bench to come up in that situation. I'd rather take my chances with Cotts against Cat instead of a tired Contreras against someone who always gives us problems. Please don't get me started though on our team speed/defensive range.

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:17 PM) why the hell can't we complete these sweeps, even with our best pitcher goin....SOAB Garland pitched in game 1 of this series. You can throw out the ERAs for all of our pitchers. Jon is clearly our best guy now.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:15 PM) Just cant give away these chances to sweep. Last year, all we had to do was win the series, and everything would work itself out. Its not 2005. We have got to win more than we lose in the next 2 weeks, plain and simple.

One of my biggest complaints about Ozzie is he shows no urgency in the 7th or 8th inning of games when this team is losing. There have been so many times this year where we allow an insurance run in the 7th inning.

Pathetic baseball, pathetic managing. How many times will our pitchers allow a run in the 7th inning before Ozzie realizes that the starting pitching getting the win isn't important? I'm very disappointed in our outfield defense today.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:09 PM) Strike out looking, get picked off, and let the ball hit like a brick off of what he calls a glove He hits the cut-off man nicely on his throws to the plate.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:04 PM) Hawk's really butchering some names today For as good as Hawk/DJ have been recently, they've been real bad today. Hawk's been slupring this team more than usual today (Cooper, Pods).

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 6, 2006 -> 07:01 PM) Great inning offense, way to work him The Jays might try to get 2 innings out of Ryan. They're pretty desperate for a win.