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*OFFICIAL* Negative Javier Vazquez comment threads
fathom replied to santo=dorf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 04:11 AM) It's KW's fault more than Ozzie's. If he is a five inning guy then implodes he does not belong on a major league roster. If Oz has him to use, he's got to be able to go 6-7. Managers play the guys on the roster. It ain't his fault Vaz has sucked. Ozzie was one of the main reasons we went after Vazquez, if not the main reason. -
QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:55 AM) Since we started sucking? And don't worry, I'm solo on the sticking up bro. Almost everyone here hates Vazquez. I clicked on the wrong icon. I was being serious when I said I admire you sticking up for all the Sox players.
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QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:51 AM) I'm just saying don't assume he just sucked it up though. The same can be said about the D behind him. Pods cost him a run alone and he barely bailed out Uribe's ass from not catching a foulball and Gload wasn't much better. That pitch was not terrible to Teahen eigher. Inside up Teahan just did a good job pulling those hands in and rotating his hips (if you didn't know Teahen has been on a serious tear) If your surprised, I've said it many times I will back anyone in that sox uni.. (except Pollite who is now gone) I still want to know this: since when did our expectations get so low for our guys? This isn't directed towards you at all...I admire you sticking up for Sox players.
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QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:44 AM) Better than he usually does actually. If 4 earned runs ain't making progress from his usual 6-8 earned a game then we should have been already looking to 07. And I really know you didn't watch the game today, since you don't have a clue how those runs came about. Don't know how those came about? Teahen got a cheap homer cause of the wind, but it was still a towering fly ball on a terrible pitch. Garcia seemed to throw a lot of fastballs tonight, compared to his usual arsenal of sliders/change-ups. I guess I just am not too excited by 6 inning plus, 4 run start. That's not going to win you very many games, even if you're playing the Royals.
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QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:36 AM) Freddy did pitch well today. Teahen actually was out in frount of that ball, but the wind worked to his advantage. And even that pitch wasn't bad at all. Might have been a different ballgame from that or Pods horrendous D costing us another run. He gave up 5 runs, 4 earned in 6.1 innings. If that's pitching well, then we might as well quit playing the rest of the season. QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:35 AM) Good. Let's see what happens. I'm actually thrilled we have this tough stretch coming up (as long as PK/Thome are healthy). This team is going to have to beat the top teams if they want to make the postseason.
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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:31 AM) This game was over the minute Freddy decided to light up the gun with his medicore fastball. If a crappy hitting team can light up Freddy what will the Yanks do. Oh wait we already know the answer to that. He's going to be facing the Yanks and Tigers next week at the Cell.....
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*OFFICIAL* Negative Javier Vazquez comment threads
fathom replied to santo=dorf's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:26 AM) Are you serious? You are blaming Ozzie for Vaz's mediocrity/spifftiness? My god. No, we're not blaming Ozzie for all of his struggles. However, he could have been managed much differently this year. His numbers after 75 pitches are amazingly bad. -
QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:02 AM) Right. No matter if Pujols was on the bag or not he was safe. You can't give an error for looking back the runner too long. And it wasn't like they could give it a fielder's choice, as the pitcher didn't go after the runner on 3rd.
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QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 03:01 AM) gosh darn YEAH. Love Utley and I want to see this streak ride for a while. If they take the hit away, the scorer should be killed. Yep, that was a blatant hit. He flat out beat the play out. They gave it a hit again.
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Utley with a hit in the 8th inning!
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QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:55 AM) Albert Pujols! I don't care if he stands out there 270 feet away with his glove over his head. It's not much different than what we have right now out there.
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A legit MLB player in left field that has played the position before.
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QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:47 AM) This game is... ova. Please don't post this stuff unless it becomes official. For those of us who are no longer watching Comcast, this is the only place for us to get an update.
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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:39 AM) this must be to make up for the fact that he forgot to pull Freddy before he detonated. Just like he will forget again to take Vazquez out on Saturday when he reaches the sixth. Our bullpen has the lowest amount of innings in the american league, yet we keep trying to get our tired starters into the 8th inning. He let Contreras throw over 120 pitches on Monday. And now we let Fastball Freddy get to pitch to a guy who jacked him the last AB. Can we adopt a rule where we promote Razor Shines for any game started by Vazquez or Garcia?
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QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:39 AM) It is official! Nothing will stop Ozzie from using lefty-lefty. NOT EVEN A POTENTIAL GAME ENDING RAIN DELAY! I'm serious, maybe they think the rain won't last the entire night.
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Maybe Ozzie was worried that the wind would blow McCarthy off of the mound.
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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:35 AM) Well, we're supposed to be one of the best teams in baseball. If we want to go to the postseason, then we'll have to beat up on the bad teams. This will be, what, our 5th loss to KC this year? We're trying to keep up with the likes of the Yankees and Red Sox. This spiffty play against bad teams (especially when we lose to the good teams) won't work. The next two weeks are put-up or shut-up time. I think we'll know a lot more about our 2006 future after these games. A pitching change now? Are you freaking kidding me Ozzie?
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QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:34 AM) Ozzie blew this game, I'm sick and tired of watching him leave our guys in there. I've said it before and I'll say it again, as a manager you're supposed to know what your players are capable of doing and are not capable of doing. Last year, yeah he could have left Freddy in there, this year it is foolish to even consider it. Here we are August 2nd, and he has yet to figure it out. Unreal. Wake up Ozzie, or we won't be playing in the post-season. He didn't have a very good 7th inning, but he didn't blow this game. Our offense didn't do much today, and Pods defense cost us. Teahen is on fire right now, and we kept putting pitches over the plate for him to HAMMER.
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Poor Gathright...goes to show you that Mother Nature can slow down anyone.
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QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:32 AM) Let me analyze this statement. Ya think??? It's just frustrating because against a team like KC, if you can keep it to a one or two run game late, you have an excellent chance at coming back and tying/winning. That inning reminded me of the Vazquez terrible 7th inning at Tampa earlier in the year.
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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:30 AM) And that should be game. The ball that bounces in, is not the one you swing at Joe. Nice job by the O and D and Ozzie tonight. Another game dropped to a crappy Royals team. And the Red Sox and Yankees keep winning. Why can't they play each other 15 times the rest of the year?
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Those 2 runs we gave up in the 7th really hurt us.
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Boston wins with a 2 out, 2 rbi double. super!
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QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:26 AM) Even if he hits a homer though, the game will still be over, unless we get 3 quick outs right? It will revert to the last full inning played? If so, the Royals will damn well make sure their gloves are tight, after every pitch. Are you sure it reverts? I don't think that's necessarily accurate.
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QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Aug 3, 2006 -> 02:26 AM) great game over Huh? KC is definitely stalling right now.