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QUOTE(atrain081 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 08:28 PM) i'd rather have a world series than reed..... Well said

Bad loss for the Tigers today. Good to see.

QUOTE(CySox @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 08:24 PM) Chris Young strikes out way too much for someone who only hits 270 in the minors. Yep....cause Brian Anderson never K'd much either.

QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 08:20 PM) i know not of this standard you are using When's the last time you heard Hawk Harrelson say, "the White Sox, after Vazquez's implosion, trail 2 to 7"? You don't.

QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 08:16 PM) when listing scores, if it is your team, you usually list your score first, much like wins are listed first. in this case, i listed the team that we all cared about first. No, you listed that the Tigers were losing. Thus, all you have to state is the score. Literally, your statement would have meant the Tigers were winning 9-5. Not a big deal...just a huge pet peeve of mine when my grandma does it.

QUOTE(CySox @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 08:08 PM) I might get ripped for this one... But i'd rather have Reed then Anderson. I'd rather have Chris Young than Reed or Anderson.

QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 08:07 PM) Detriot losing 5-9 9-5

Former Sox organization member, Alex Escobar, looks very good in his brief stint this season.

QUOTE(Chisoxmatt @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 07:22 PM) This is on Ozzie if you ask me. He needed to fix our bunting problem earlier... Bunting is not the issue, getting hits with RISP is the big issue. Playing small ball isn't going to make our starting pitchers avoid the big inning. We've had a lot of 2 men on situations lately, and the only time we really cashed in on it was PK's 3 run homer vs Detroit.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) Well, I've heard that Washington is also asking for Maybe (ugh -- Maybin, that is) as well. I guess it would depend on how Bowden views Podsednik. If he thinks of him as a guy who can 'sparkplug' his offense for the next three years and be a good leadoff man, then that'll help us. If he thinks of him the same way I think of him... well, then, my offer probably wouldn't work. Bowden's the type of guy who likes "toolsy" players. Safe to say, Pods isn't the typical player Bowden likes. QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) We just need the starting pitching to get going (duh). I'm giving the offense a break -- they were the ones who carried us throughout the first half, not the pitching. Time for the starters to put the team on it's back and have a string of 18-out-of-20 quality starts, something of that sort. Absolutely. As I've said all year, with the money we have invested in our starting pitching, we're not going anywhere unless they perform well the rest of the way. If they continue to underachieve, then we clearly don't deserve to make the playoffs.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) Maybe. If we're going to make a big trade, I think it has to be to improve the pitching staff though. Whether that is adding a starter(doubtful) or addition by subtraction and getting either Vaz or Freddy out of here and letting Mac pitch in the rotation. I know you're confident in Javy but right now I have absolutley 0 confidence in Vazquez and Garcia. Buehrle will be fine and he really doesn't worry me at all(though he's beyond frusterating at this point) but I don't trust Vaz or Freddy to turn it around at all. Hopefully I'm wrong. But which pitchers are really available that we can be sure would be an upgrade? That's why I would love to see someone like Tejada or Soriano added....they'd be massive upgrades over what we currently have.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 07:14 PM) I'd say actually that yesterday is a perfect example of why Neal Cotts should never pitch to Kevin Mench. Kevin Mench has an OPS of 5.000 against Neal Cotts in 3 at bats. Kevin Mench would look great in LF for us. He'd really help our offense against lefties.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 07:06 PM) Then who is #1, and #3-5? Miguel Tejada is #1

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 06:44 PM) I'd offer something along the lines of Broadway + Haeger/Phillips + Podsednik, but I doubt that gets it done. Soriano would be an intriguing possibility, but I wouldn't really want him past this year (thus why the package above is relatively weak). The extra draft picks would be nice, though. The Tigers and their package starting with H. Sanchez will easily top what we likely offer. Soriano is actually the #2 guy on my wish list right now.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 06:07 PM) In his 3 years @ Minn where AJ started full time he hit .301. This year he is hiting .307. His SLG and OBP are also a bit down from those years. PK's numbers are pretty similar to where they were last year in terms of OBP/SLG. To be honest, I hadn't looked at AJP's numbers in a few weeks. I forgot his average has fallen like 15 pts. Maybe a better classification than saying players having a career year would have been to say if we thought that our guys hitting at such a high level could really keep up that level of production the rest of the way. I've said this before, and I'll say it again....I don't want our offense to just tip their cap whenever we face Santana or Liriano in the 2nd half of the season.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 06:01 PM) Half? I can't even name 3 Dye, AJP, Crede, PK

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 05:54 PM) Yeah but do you really want to see us become the Yankees and focus on hitting only? Yes....because the price for pitching is too much. What do you do if you can't improve your weakness? That's right, you improve your strength. Anyways, who's to say we're going to have too much offense in the 2nd half of the season. Are we going to hope that half of our guys continue to have career years?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 05:48 PM) PLease. All we're doing is upping the price for Detroit. No reason for them to get him cheaply. With the way things are going right now, I expect KW to do something that will shock us.

QUOTE(CySox @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 05:34 PM) Carloss Lee has lots of assists, and doesn't make a lot of errors. Is he a good defender? I think not. At least Soriano is capable of throwing someone out on the bases. We wouldn't be making this trade to upgrade the defense....it's to spark our offense. Soriano's one of the best offensive players in baseball, and he would be superb hitting at the Cell.

QUOTE(CySox @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 05:22 PM) no soraino. no thank you. We have enough player who can strike out 100 times a year and play bad D in LF. PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE NOT COMPARING SORIANO TO SCOTT PODSEDNIK!!!!!

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 05:19 PM) Yeah, but he is a lock to net you two first round picks. Good point. Soriano has a lot of negatives, but he also has a ton of positives. I'd sure like our chances beating the likes of Santana and Liriano the rest of the way with him in LF. The interesting thing is that the Nationals already have a stud 3B in Zimmerman.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 05:14 PM) Now Roesnthal is saying the Sox are willing to give up top prospects to get Soriano. I've also hated how Soriano's numbers were covered by his huge SLG%, but with the year he is having, how could you not want him over Pods? I'd love to see Soriano on this team. My only fear is that we wouldn't re-sign him, and then he'd only be a 3 month rental. Where did you see this news?

QUOTE(CySox @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) Kenny has also said Fields and Sweeney are untouchable. I have no problem with that. The only minor leaguers I think we need to keep are, Sweeney, Liotta, Lumsden, Broadway, and Fields. Everyone else is expandable and can/should be used in a trade to sure up the bullpen. Teams are going to be clamoring over our other prospects then....not. I'll be surprised if Fields is still a member of the Sox organization in 10 days.

QUOTE(soxunited @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 04:59 PM) "beach" that swear filter is hilarious Wow, I completely forgot about the filters on this site. From now on, I'll have to use complain instead of beach.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:51 PM) Cesar Carillo = bad elbow. That's too bad. The kid seems very nice, and I always root for the local guys to succeed (except for Granderson now).