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QUOTE(WCSox @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 10:38 PM) I can understand people jumping on Garland for his "Judly-like" pitching earlier this year, but I'm shocked that Buehrle is suddenly trade bait after three bad starts. If anybody on this staff deserves the benefit of the doubt, it's Mark Buehrle. I agree, but if he'll net you a package like what he mentioned, you do it in a second. Remember, Buehrle's going to be very expensive soon.

If it's Tracey, I'm pleasantly stunned.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 10:22 PM) Tracey didn't start. Interesting. It would be great if Ozzie was able to get over his personal frustrations with the Tracey incident, and did what's best for the team.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 10:21 PM) What does Farnsworth throw? It'd be nice if he had the gas his brother has. During the AAA all-star game, he was around 90 mph with his fastball. He's pitched in the majors before, and wasn't impressive.

If we have to use a minor league pitcher, it will either be Hermanson or Farnsworth. I stand by my source that says he'd be stunned if Tracey plays for a Guillen managed team again.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 10:14 PM) So does this mark the return of Sean Tracey or are we going to play the Montero game again? Option C

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 09:22 PM) Fine, I'm annoyed enough to say it. Think the Mets would do Milledge, Heilman, and Sanchez for Buehrle? Well, if they would do that trade, see ya Mark.

Yep, I'm sure this has been hard on Politte. Thanks for everything last season! It was one of the best middle relief years I've ever seen. I'm sure Mrs. Politte has been looking for real estate in Cincinnati for the last few weeks. I wonder who we'll call up now? My prediction is still Roberto Hernandez via trade on Monday.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:42 PM) That's exactly right. I remember Hawk talking a couple years ago about all the guys the Sox had in their organization that threw 95 and up. What happened? Maybe we can keep getting Angels cast-offs, as they have no problem developing power pitchers. QUOTE(chisoxt @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:42 PM) That would be stupid. Why trade someone with the upside of a Tracey for a has been like Henandez? Tracey could probably do everything Roberto could at this point, so why take on the salary? Because Ozzie hates Tracey.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:41 PM) Roberto Hernandez = a lot of baserunners, which I guess is better than Cliff Politte = a lof of baserunners and a lot of runs. Roberto Hernandez = friends with Ozzie Guillen = very likely to end up with White Sox.

QUOTE(Big Hurtin @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) Jim Abbott could pitch better than Politte, right handed. (I know I'm going to hell for that one) Hell no, that's funny. Maybe Abbott could be our new left fielder. He's better defensively than what we have out there, and he could take 3 pitches and sit down easily also.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:38 PM) KW makes all his moves on Wednesday. How much longer in the minors for hermy? The reports in today's Tribune about Hermanson weren't optimistic at all.

My prediction: Roberto Hernandez will be on the White Sox by Tuesday in a deal including Sean Tracey.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:35 PM) Cliff's now has a stellar 8.89 ERA right now. Wow, I had no clue it was even close to being that high. And to think some people on here actually argue that the Tigers pitchers aren't good. :banghead

Please release him after today. He's absolutely finished.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:29 PM) me too. Send him where he wants to go. In addition if he goes 1-12 or whatever he did in 2003 than the St Louis Fans can praise him when he ends up at 500 for the year and they pay him 8 million. In the meantime we need to stop drafting crafty guys who top off at 92. I love Mark Buehrle, as he's one of my favorite all time Sox players (and easily our best closer ever). However, he's about to get EXTREMELY expensive. QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:31 PM) But if he keeps sucking than he will be gone. I like that option better if I know we will lose this game anyway. You and I agree on a lot....which probably means the Sox are in trouble.

I didn't see any mention of this, but the reports about Hermanson weren't promising at all. They said he's pitching in a lot of discomfort still.

Am I a bad fan for wanting Politte to get crushed this inning?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:24 PM) Duh...or Buerhle... It's too bad that the Cardinals don't have some big prospects, as I would seriously consider trading Buehrle for a top-notch package this offseason.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) Does everyone agree that they'd rather trade Garcia over Vazquez? You know they're only teasing us with these trade rumors. I'd much rather trade Garcia, but I wouldn't cry if Vazquez is ever dealt.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:21 PM) Well, if they're asking for the farm then no. If they want Josh Fields or Anderson, I'd give it to them. All I know is that I really hope we use Fields as trade bait. His stock is sky-high right now, and a lot of teams would love to have a 3b of the future like him.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:21 PM) We should get Johan Freakin Santan. His team is farther out of the playoff race than Jones' The only reason anyone's brought up Jones name is that there are published reports saying we inquired about him. Also....it's pointless to trade for Santana, as we'd just end up letting Widger catching for him.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:19 PM) I'm not so sure it's not Aaron Rowand. He once killed a bear with his hands, you know. When does he get his award for curing cancer?

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) did they do things like this for US last year? i hate the national media... i'm a bit bitter today I'll gladly listen to Buck announce more of our games....as that would mean that we've gone far in the playoffs.

QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) Pitching >>>>>> Hitting. If we give up young talent for that much offensive output, there is no reason we cant get a quality starting pitcher. Sure there is....it's called availability.