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How dare Tracey retire a batter. Clearly, we need Politte back!!

I honestly think Tracey was told to hit the batter, and he didn't. Thus, Ozzie pulls him.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:53 AM) Who convinced Scott he was back in 2004? At least that Pods had a lot of extra base hits. However, he's just another in a long list of guys who have 2004 stats that might be "misleading". My two favorites are A. Beltre and J. Lopez.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:53 AM) You should know by now the route our minor leaguers take once they've been promoted. Fields will come up with high expectations and fail immediately. He was 0-4 with a K...but it was swinging. That's better than Pods already.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:51 AM) So it's not demoralizing being getting your ass handed to you by a lesser pitcher? This team has done nothing offensively today and AJ being hit twice with no retaliation did not hellp matters. He's not getting 3 inches, any pitch that he's getting on the outer half is just off the corner, he does not have a Maddux strikezone. Vicente's actions today have the Sox hitters scared at the plate. You know I'm Mr. Pessimism, but this is not that big of a deal. Even before the 2nd HBP, our players looked sluggish. I don't have the impression that they were overly focused tonight.

Great AB Pods. And with that, I'll check on Josh Fields game and salivate at our future LF.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:46 AM) Or you could stop blowing sunshine out of your ass, either one. How did you feel after Hunter took out Burk? Did you think the Sox were demoralized? This is the same damn situation, this game is incredibly mental and a rough mental patch like this can kill a team's spirit. This is NOTHING like that situation. The Rangers aren't our main rival. If we go on a losing streak, it will be because we have too many hitters slumping at the same time, and pitchers that can't handle the Reds thunder.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:44 AM) Hawk's not making sense now. He is saying the warning has hurt Vazquez making him pitch away, away, away. The warning was issued in the 4th inning. Vazquez hasn't allowed a run since the warning. I was thinking the same thing.

Did Hawk really expect there to be no warning given?

This is our worst offensive game of the season so far.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) Geez, like deja vu. The only good thing seems to be the extra mileage on Detroit pitching. You would think Tampa would win one of these games by accident. It reminds me of the run the Indians went on last year where they always seemed to find a way to tie a game in the 9th inning. I remember calling them the Hulk Hogan of MLB, as you could always count on them "Hulking" up at the end of the game.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:30 AM) I'm not impressed with Mackowiak. Who are you impressed with then? Contreras and Albert Pujols?

Tigers tied it.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:25 AM) Several of our hitters are obviously outguessing themself in this situation. How does Thome miss a STRAIGHT 94 mph fastball right down the middle? Has Padilla thrown anything besides fastballs tonite? It's been downright pathetic how we've responded since Padilla hit AJ twice. We've looked awful all night against his fastball. I was hoping it was the shadows early in the game, but I don't think it is now.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:24 AM) Tigers with a 9th inning rally. Tampa made an error in the 9th. Tigers have been capitalizing on late inning errors all season.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:23 AM) That's your opinion. He's stating his opinion, based on having stood in the batters box and probably having a better understanding of what's going on between the lines than any of us. DJ agrees with him on this, for what that's worth. I mean this as a serious question, and want to know your opinion. Do you think Hawk should show more class, and not say he wants the Sox to hit one of the Rangers better players or root for Padilla to get hit in the knee with a line drive?

Did I just hear an F bomb?

QUOTE(Ndgt10 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:22 AM) How many times are our 1-2 guys going to get called out? I've love to see a stat on how many times Pods has done that since he's been on the Sox. Iguchi has caught his disease also now.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:19 AM) Because "sox fans" like yourself have already given up on this game and handed the win to Texas? Are you f***ing serious? I'm one of the few people who still think we have a chance. I said how 5 runs isn't too much to overcome at this park.

Pods = I can't wait for you to be on the bench tomorrow. Hawk is acting so classless right now. It's embarrassing to the organization. He sounds like if one of us was doing this game.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:16 AM) Are you really this clueless? Perhaps it's happeneing tonight because he bashed their brains in Monday, and beat them last night. So why do it when you're actually winning? What does pulling the starter out have to do with anything? I don't think Buck's the type of manager to act like that.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:12 AM) He wasn't risking getting tossed because he wasn't warned the first time he threw right at Pierzynski on the first pitch. Doesn't matter this year, I thought. The rules have been changed where pitchers can get tossed without having a warning. The first time, I thought it was intentional. The second time, I really don't think it was. Hawk really is acting like a whining baby now, by saying we should go after one of their better hitters. QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:13 AM) :rolly Whatever. There was never a warning issued, so why would he get tossed after the second HBP? What's Ozzie's and Showalter's relationship? Vile. But that's irrelevant. If they were going to throw at guys, why not on Monday night when they were down 5, and not up 5? Gload with the great scoop....in RF.

Does Hairston Jr. always come up vs the Sox in a possible bean ball situation?

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) outstanding here comes a little game called 'bean ball" At least Hawk will have the unintentional comedy factor going.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:09 AM) It was the first pitch and he could afford the baserunner with a 5 run lead. There's plenty of time left in this game. If they wanted to hit AJP again, they could have waited a few innings when he wasn't leading off the inning. And trust me, with a 5-0 lead, Padilla's not going to risk getting tossed and losing out on the chance to get credit for the win.