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Seriously, what was Konerko doing there? He seemed like he was protecting on the 1-1 pitch. That's the type of easy outs that the Sox seem to make a lot more than a team like the Twins.

QUOTE(quickman @ May 11, 2005 -> 02:20 AM) hey rowand still disagree with me about the pitching? I can hear it now on baseball tonight, the differnece between this wek and last week is the runs given up by the whitesox bullpen. And they will be right, and all you guys will be moaning and complaining that they aren't saying nice things about us. It's not the relievers who are struggling, it's the starting pitching that's been bad for the last few games. They're still keeping us in the game though. People would have to be nuts to think we'd keeping winning at such a high rate with our big money hitters continuing to suck.

Wow, we caught a break there. Good job by Marte throwing strikes when he needed to though. I'd assume Colome is coming in. He's got some great stuff, but lacks control.

Marte's not even close. Ozzie keeps playing with fire by leaving struggling relievers in the game. Why isn't Politte warming up? This is insane. Perez is great against lhp.

Is Politte warming up?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 11, 2005 -> 02:17 AM) Aubrey Huff... the bidding begins. For Aubrey Huff, you can have a nice, shiny Timo Perez, a Joe Crede, a Felix Diaz, as well as two out ofo Arnie Munoz/Jeff Bajenareau/Josh Fields (RHP)/Jon Adkins. Please do it. It would make me happy. Come on, Damaso. Considering that they want more for Huff than they did for V. Zambrano (Kazmir), I don't see a single person on that list that they'd even be interested in.

This umpire has definitely not done us any favors calling balls and strikes tonight.

I would like to see Ozzie lay off playing matchups, and just go with Marte, Hermanson, and Shingo to end games if we're up going into the 7th inning. That way, if one of them gets in trouble, we can have Politte, Cotts, or Vizcaino ready to get an out or two.

Ventura just said he never faced Marte. I specifically remember a game vs the Yanks a few years ago where Marte got squeezed against Ventura, and eventually Rondell White won the game for the Yankees against Rocky Biddle.

Twins lead after the umps f***ed the Orioles in the 8th inning.

Good pitch there by Vizcaino. That 2-2 pitch to Green really hurt us last inning. I guess it evens out though, as the ump missed the call on our first run.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 11, 2005 -> 02:06 AM) Any reason Vizcaino is still in the game? He didn't have it last inning... Gut feeling?

I have a feeling Vizcaino will have to have a 15 ERA before Ozzie decides he's not fit for close games.

QUOTE(JimH @ May 11, 2005 -> 02:05 AM) Everett looks confused up there, almost as confused as our bullpen up to this point. And Contreras. And Dye. Am I missing anyone? Ozzie Guillen.....on how to manage a struggling reliever.

Has a tied game ever felt like such an obstacle to overcome? It's an even bigger obstacle now that I know Vizcaino is still in.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 11, 2005 -> 02:03 AM) Carl is en fuego. Come on pen you gotta gotta gotta f***ing keep it tied. .382 or what not....he seems like such an easy out from the right side. All you have to do is throw a change-up, and he's so far out in front.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 11, 2005 -> 02:02 AM) GOOCH WALKS How about our s***ty sleep walking 3-4 hitters finally do something. How about just our high priced players. Everett, Konerko, and Dye have been pathetic in this series.

QUOTE(quickman @ May 11, 2005 -> 01:59 AM) Well if your talking about the ptiching part of the statement, I would say it broke down last night and tonight. Now I realize its a bit of a stretch for last night but it did break down, on top of that Buerhle's last couple of starts have not been great. I just think the teams pitching is beginning to change, we will see, hope I am wrong, but it seems like things are changing. I agree with this. Instead of getting out of the big inning, we're giving up a lot of 2 out RBI it seems. The bottom of Tampa Bay's order is hurting us....and it's the worst bottom of the order in baseball by far. Of course, I'm not thrilled with Ozzie's bullpen decision tonight.

Another flyout to the warning track. Good swing though by Crede.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 11, 2005 -> 01:55 AM) I didn't think he has gone through 1 scoreless inning of work this season. I know, it really feels like that. Ozzie has to realize that Vizcaino was just as likely to have a 7 ERA this season as he was to have a 4 ERA. Politte has flat out won the right to pitch in crucial situations.....Vizcaino continues to absolutely suck.

How's this for a pathetic state.....in Vizcaino's 12 outings, he has allowed a run in 7 of them! That's awful for a reliever.

Ozzie is treating Vizcaino like he's a starter right now it seems. Take his ass out Ozzie! When your reliever clearly doesn't have it, you don't let him keep pitching when you have other options. We called up Walker, so we should have plenty of depth in the bullpen.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 11, 2005 -> 01:49 AM) Viz hasn't been throwing enough imo which is the reason for his struggles. He was starting to throw the ball damn well now he's just not getting out there. No offense, but that's no excuse for a MLB player. Vizcaino has not looked sharp this entire season.

f*** this. Vizcaino should have been pulled after he walked Hall. It's obvious that he doesn't have anything tonight.....again.

Did Ozzie really just look to the bullpen thinking someone was warming up? It really looked that way. Hopefully that's not what happened.