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BTW, just reporting what I heard from my brother, but he saw Borchard play in Durham on Monday. He said that Borchard looked worse than ever, and swung through like 8 of 9 pitches against someone with mediocre stuff.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:48 AM) Didn't KW go down to visit the minors today IIRC? I just think they're going to give Borch 1 more chance in September. I just think the Borchard for Burroughs trade makes a lot of sense. Both teams are pretty down on each player, and both teams have a need for the other.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:44 AM) Maybe we should just bench Uribe when we play at home altogether. He is batting a wonderful .206 at home with a lovely .230 OBP. Crede is next with a .213 BA at home. Here's the thing....we're going to win or lose with Crede and Uribe on the left side of the infield. There's nothing we can do about their lack of offense now. They're both going to be playing the majority of the rest of the games, so we just have to hope they play at a high level. We still have a 13 game lead, so we can afford some players slumping. However, if they think it's tough playing in front of large crowds now (and struggling)....just wait until the noose is tightened if this large lead becomes less than 5 or so. There's no reason for this team to be playing tight right now.

Borchard is really helping his trade value now. He might be getting regular playing time....for the Padres next week.

If Frank does decide he wants to resume his career, it's going to be very difficult for him to stay with the Sox. However, as much as I'd like to see him in a Sox uniform for his entire career, any fan who b****es at KW if Thomas goes to another team should be slapped. There's no way we can bring him back if he wants any type of medium money deal. He'll be too far of an injury risk the rest of his career.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:38 AM) Uribe wont change his hitting based on where he is in the lineup. He is a reckless swinger no matter what. All that happens if you bump him up is that Uribe kills a rally quicker. When he came to the team fatter this year it should of been a warning sign to the team. He was much better higher in the order last year, I thought a poster stated earlier. All I know is that the current lineup isn't doing much of anything. Hell, we had two solid offensive showings with Timo batting leadoff.

Huff with homers in two straight games

Personally, I'd like to see Uribe up in the order against the lefty. We're going to need his offense if we want to start scoring some runs, and he was very good up in the order last year. It seems to me like he would focus more. I'm all for putting Iguchi in the 3rd hole right now. I know he's great in the 2nd spot, but if Pods isn't getting on base, he does us no good batting there.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:22 AM) Very good pitching matchup tommorow: Buehrle vs. Moyer Yeah, the same J. Moyer with an ERA on the road of 6.79! I still wonder who's going to be in the DH spot tomorrow. With Everett's injury lingering, maybe we need to send Adkins down again, and call up Anderson.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:14 AM) yes but with the way their starters have been throwing it's 5 and done for them. Than you can't use Gordon for 3. They have a lot of trouble getting the ball to Gordon. You make a good point, but I was talking about coming back late in games, like the 8th inning, like we were doing so often earlier in the year. We were outscoring teams by a ton in the 8th inning this season.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:13 AM) LOL. Nice try. :headshake What the hell are you talking about? Seriously, just STFU! When we play bad like we have been lately at home...we're losing. We've been playing better team than we were earlier in the season at home. We're making a lot more mistakes than we were earlier in the season, and it's costing us at home. Bad hitting and bad defense, as well as lack of clutch pitching/hitting....has led to our well below solid record at home lately.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:09 AM) he also has an ERA of 4.03 for his career. So he's having a bad year however his career numbers aren't that bad. He's not fully recovered from his arm injuries. He doesn't have the same stuff that allowed him to put up those numbers. Were people saying the same thing about Koch a few years ago? Career numbers mean nothing in baseball, especially in the age of steroids and injuries.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:09 AM) But as bad as we played, according to you, we still took 2 out of 4 against the second best team in the AL when we are slumping at home. So why would we have a tougher time going on the road to Boston when we are much better on the road this year, and we have played decent in Boston the last couple of years. BTW, the next two teams we face are ranked 10th and 13th in the league right around KC and Tampa. So really, we are facing bullpens that are just as bad, but lets just ignore that We won those games against Boston because we played solid fundamental baseball, got a lot of base runners, and were able to avoid the big inning. What's been killing us lately is that exact opposite of that. And when I'm referring to bullpens, I'm talking about being able to come from behind late in the game like we did so often against KC this year. You're right, Gordon/Rivera and Timlin/Schilling are just as bad as Sisco/Macdougal are. If you really think that the bullpens are similar, you're nuts. The Yankees and Red Sox have released a lot of the relievers that were killing their bullpen ERA.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:05 AM) no he won 15 games in 03. He has very good stuff. With that philosophy, you must have really wanted the Sox to trade for J. Schmidt!

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:05 AM) no he won 15 games in 03. He has very good stuff. He's not close to being the same pitcher since he's had a plethora of injury problems. The guy had an ERA over 6 pitching in a terrific park to pitch in! I used to be a fan of Pineiro....but he had nothing tonight. He no longer gets the good quick snap on his curve...and it hangs a lot now. We had plenty of chances to light him up tonight.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:02 AM) Boston didn't "beat" us when we played bad against them at home two weeks ago. Are you serious? We played awful in two games against them, and they beat us. We could have easily swept that series. The awful defense in the first game, and just terrible hitting early in the Saturday game cost us the chance of a sweep.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 03:02 AM) You know what Pinero pitched a very good game and he is a pretty good pitcher. So tip your cap to him and move on. Is that sarcasm?

QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 02:58 AM) Boy, ain't that the truth. If that's not a testament of just how s***ty we've been at home, then I don't know what is. Who would have ever of thought we'd be excited about going on the road to NYY and Boston? The only chance this team has of not making the playoffs is if we have a prolonged slump. We're playing good enough teams for the next few weeks that if we play bad, they will beat us. We're not facing bullpens of Tampa or KC anymore.

This team needs its hunger back. Everyday, there's another story in the paper about how we need to rest our players for the postseason, etc. Lets just go out and show the rest of the AL why we had the best record all year! No more playing not to lose. We need to make things happen on the field.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 02:49 AM) ...horrible. That's all that needs to be said, this is pathetic. I know I'm not supposed to be optimistic....but I am. We're still 13 games up now, and quite frankly....we're not a very good team currently. I'm nervous about playing against NYY and Boston next week, with the way they're swinging the bats. However, maybe the intensity of the games will bring out the best in our players.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 02:48 AM) 4-10 in are last games at home = :puke I thought it was worse than that?

With Everett out, I think it's time we call up Brian Anderson. Who are we planning on playing at DH against lefties? I have a bad feeling it's going to be Ozuna.

Our offense needs help! I know people were asking for a lot in return....but with Everett likely gimpy for a week or more, we can't stick with the lineup we have. You need to be able to score runs at the Cell...this isn't Chavez Ravine.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 6, 2005 -> 02:42 AM) That's because I don't spout off garbage and b**** after every at bat. If I did, I would expect someone to say somthing. None of this is personal. I'm just not going to sit here and let you throw out wrong info so you can b**** at the Sox. Again, I ask you to come up with something that I'm totally wrong about. I already admitted I was a homer off on the Sexson quote I made earlier. I might be pessimistic...but I know baseball as well as anyone on this board.

When's the last time we hit a ball hard tonight?