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Looks like the trade for Guardado is bulls***.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:33 PM) Isn't Connor Jackson an OF??? 1B

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:30 PM) than the SC guy screwed it up completly because he said the White Sox. Youkilis has been rumored to be traded for Romero.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:28 PM) I basically meant he was younger than Lawton, and yes I understand he's not that great...but he'll still be a decent player to serve as a stop gap until the pirates get someone else. My main point was basically that Lawton isn't such a good player to be b****ing about this. Compared to what the Cubs had in LF, he's a major upgrade.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:25 PM) I count that as tied for 16th in the NL, around 30th for the entire league. The top 10 in the NL all have obp over .390. We shall see, but I do not think hed start on the Sox. SB Then it was 7th in the NL for outfielders. I heard this on ESPN.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) Jesus Christ, I was about to type the same thing. Stop involving common sense! I get to post less! But really, Gerut allows the Pirates to get younger at the same position. Production wise Gerut is probably going to put up similar numbers to Lawton (sans OBP) and provide better defense. But sure, if we're all going to be b****y about not getting anyone today what better way to whine than to think Matt Lawton is Roberto Clemente reincarnated. Gerut's not exactly a young player anymore. His bat speed is awful now, and he's a step slower than he was before the injury. I'll be shocked if he's ever an average MLB hitter again.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) i heard on the SC update the guy saying that Chad Tracy was traded to the White Sox(I think it was white) for PTBNL Liar!

Tracy was pulled from their game, but I bet it was for defensive purposes.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) Chad Tracy was traded to the Sox i think? Says who?

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:19 PM) Lawton is pretty average. Outside of his .380 obp, he has nothing to really make up for his poor defense. Not many good teams would have a place for him. SB Outside of his .380 OBP? That's 7th in the NL. He's exactly what they needed at the top of their order and in LF.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:19 PM) Jody Gerut is a good player. I like that deal for the Pirates. Give him every day playing time and I think the Pirates will be quite pleased. He hasn't been as good this year as he was last year, but he's a good player. Gerut's not the same player that he was before the injury. I haven't been impressed with him at all this year.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) Ripping off the Pirates for Matt Lawton? I'd be surprised if they got much of anything for him. He's nothing to get excited about. I heard it's for Jody Gerut. You gotta love the Cubs minor league team coming back to help out their team again. I do hate Matt Lawton though....always seemed like an asshole.

Villone to the Marlins.

Huff just batted 23 minutes before the deadline. Safe to say he's staying?

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 07:36 PM) Keith, Baj has been having dizzy spells over the past week, he is not 100%, nor is he equipped to throw multiple innings. There is no conspiracy theory going on here. The Sox need a long man right now. It's been pointless to have to waste Cotts in this role. It's a smart move.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 07:32 PM) The Count had a leg problem yesterday. That could be it. It was a cramp. He's fine.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) One of the Charlotte guys said Jon Adkins has been called up, so there needs to be roster moves before tomorrows game at the latest. That's interesting. I have a feeling Vizcaino would be sent down or even traded then.

Rotoworld hints at a possible Griffey to the Cubs trade. Griffey isn't in the lineup today.

BTW, Huff just batted.

Soriano isn't getting traded. Rangers GM just said he's off the market. I'm happy with that.

If Huff is traded, he won't be in the lineup after 3pm today, would he?

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 06:19 PM) Didn't Kenny give a whole spiel about not trading for someone unless they're a special player (for chemistry reasons, of course)? Is Geoff Blum is a special player? Well, we didn't have a back-up 3b....so he fits what this team needed.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 05:54 PM) Wow, the Giants are stupid if they're gonna keep going for it. Sure, they may make the playoffs, though it's an outside chance even in such a horrible division. But, they'll just get bounced in the playoffs easily. Soriano will add nothing to that team. Their defense will still be bad, which is a major problem for them, and his offense will go down considerably with that park and very little protection in that lineup. And then he's gone after this year, isn't he? God, I've always hated the Giants. Giants are builiding their team for next year. Really doesn't make sense, does it? I can't believe their awful trade for Randy Winn.

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 05:46 PM) Very interesting. By the way, I second that 'out of the gameday thread' comment. Thanks. What I don't understand is why more people don't realize it's simply venting in the gamethread. If you go and look at any gamethread for any team, there's so many highs and lows during the game. It's so easy to overreact.

Not to give anyone a heart attack, but Vizquel isn't in the Giants lineup today.