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Kudos to all the fans that stayed about 6 hours at the park to see this game end.

Good job by Dustin there of making it easy. Koch who???

Any chance that the top of the 9th is easy here?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 04:13 AM) Great work from Shingo out of the 'pen, regardless of the homerun. Yeah, Shingo did a good job in this high-scoring game. My big problem was with Ozzie, and not Shingo. No reason to have Shingo pitch another inning there. Thankfully, we had a great relay to get the lead runner.

Are all games against Tampa on the 4th of July this crazy?

This game should have been in the hands of Cotts, Cliff, and Hermanson for the last two innings. Why is it that when Ozzie has a bad managing game, it just seems to snowball that entire game?

What the f*** is Ozzie doing? Cotts should have been in to start this inning. Shingo has never been very good after a full inning.

The fact they called Walker back up after the Angels debacle pisses me off enough. For Ozzie to continue to use him in games with outcomes still in doubt is just ridiculous.

This goes to show you how valuable Marte is. With a healthy Marte, Cotts would have been pitching this inning. Walker is a right handed version of Paniagua. It's absolutely pathetic that we know he'll suck, yet Ozzie continues to bring him into the game.

What more does Walker have to do in order to get released? Way to let Tampa right back into this game Ozzie.

Please get this piece of s*** and his pathetic slider out of the game. Why is he in the f***ing majors?

Oh boy, a Kevin Walker sighting.

Good job by Viz overcoming the mental error by Crede.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:53 AM) possibly rowand He's brutal against RHP. Against LHP, he should be much higher in the order.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) Since May 5, Iguchi is .241/.311/.406 Maybe he should be moved out of the 2 spot. We have no other options to bat 2nd. Iguchi's numbers with RISP are much worse than those numbers you listed lately.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) Fathom, I think what we have on our roster is about average: -Rowand -Thomas -Crede -Buehrle -Garland (Not drafted by the Sox, but we pretty much developed him) -Cotts (Ditto with Buehrle). I don't consider Cotts, but I'll give you Garland. Still, that's not a lot of guys in the last few years that we've developed.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:47 AM) Thats a piss-poor defense. Just cause it happens other places doesn't mean it has to happen here. Especially when it concerns the team with the best record in all of baseball. I don't see why keeping things in perspective is so hard. If people would actually think before they posted something, the quality would increase exponentially. I was really hoping you wouldn't use the "team with best record" reason for why people shouldn't complain. There's still half of the season left to go. I'm definitely not someone who thinks that it's a sure thing we'll make the playoffs.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:45 AM) Um... McCarthy was in Low-A last season. There was a reason for that. The reason he's not getting major league hitters out has nothing to do with the minor league people devolping players. Yeah, I wasn't talking about McCarthy in regards to how we develop players. Basically, it dealt with how we just don't produce any players from our minor league system on a consistent basis. The Sox are notorious for not developing their own talent very well. There's a reason that we have very few players on our MLB roster that we actually develop. How many times have we been disappointed by a guy that is brought up from the minors, only for them to look like they don't belong?

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:45 AM) 5-3 Twins 2 run single by Castro Super

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:43 AM) Most unpleasant bunch of people I think I've ever seen. Good god, and here I was thinking that sanity had been restored a bit, we just get more people who do nothing but b**** the entire game. Go to any gamethread for any team in any sport....it's the same way everywhere!

Guys are definitely in launch mode right now. Just have to hope that they get all of it, and stop flying out.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:40 AM) I really don't think that's the case at all... Jim, wouldn't you say so? Of course, if there's a guy who can throw 99 but can't locate it, and there's a guy who can throw 91-93 who can locate it, they'll go with the latter. But I don't see much of a problem with that. Again, they went with a lot of 'stuff' guys last year -- Whistler and Gonzalez come to mind immediately. Those guys with 91 mph have a lot lower ceiling than the guys with the overall great stuff. It's up to the minor league developers to get the best out of the player's talent. Please don't tell me that you think our minor league people do a good job at developing players?

Getting McCarthy out of the game was our best chance at winning. Good job by Viz there. Cotts is going to have to pitch 2 innings tonight likely.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:39 AM) Verlander was 2nd overall No, I know that, but that's the type of "great" stuff I was talking about. Not someone with a 91 mph and a good curve.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Jul 5, 2005 -> 02:36 AM) some of you people here are very immature and have very little baseball knowledge I believe it's my baseball knowledge that leads me to believe we should trade McCarthy while he still has a lot of value. He wasn't an extremely highly rated prospect last season, and after his quality spring training, his stock went sky-high. Someone with McCarthy's stuff is usually not rated as highly as he has been. In the right trade, you can turn McCarthy into a real difference maker.