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For all the bashing we've done of Ozuna tonight, at least he's 3-3. Ozuna is swinging just a magic wand this season that Lew Ford could only dream of.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 02:37 AM) And probably win while we lose this one. We never go for sweeps. As Ozzie continues to be content with winning 2 out of 3, our division lead seems to be dwindling by a game every week or so.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) 10 million over 3 years says otherwise. Uribe's a streaky hitter, just gotta take the good with the bad. I agree, it was more just a rhetorical question summing up that Crede isn't the only one who deserves to be on the hot seat right now. I know this is usually southsideirish's favorite topic, but what the hell is Greg Walker doing? How long can you let certain players struggle before you try and change things?

At what point do we start saying that we might have to acquire a SS? Uribe's offense has been worse than Crede's offense has been over the last month.

Any chance of a big enough storm tonight in Colorado for this game to get called once it starts to rain?

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 02:21 AM) You weren't paying attention. When was the last time you heard "HE GAWN! HE'LL GRAB SOME BENCH!"? Gotcha, thanks. And no, I had clicked over to the Twins game.

Hawk a little too excited for the end of that inning there.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) Offensive stats aren't the only thing that matters. So why do we have an awful fielding team on the field tonight with a non-strikeout pitcher on the mound? Our defense has already cost us at least 3 runs tonight.

Remember when Konerko used to go the opposite way to hit a liner? If this is the way he's going to continue to swing for his career, I hope that we don't even consider resigning him.

Here's the problem I have with Duque: Did anyone actually expect him to pitch well tonight? It's obvious that he doesn't have much left anymore. He's no longer getting out of the jams like he was earlier in the season.

When you throw a 83 mph fastball, have a hanging curve, and no control.....how can you expect to consistently get batters out? Duque has looked pretty bad for a handful of starts in a row now. Instead of worrying about who we can get to replace Crede, we might want to worry about getting a 5th starter for the stretch run.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:58 AM) alright, here's the deal. We all want crede benched. Ozzie's seeing if ozuna can do the job. It's an obvious negative. If i hear one bad thing about ozzie putting him in I'm gonna scream, this is what you all wanted. Some of the crazies on here might want Crede benched, but they know he is our only option at 3rd base. For anyone that thinks Ozuna can replace Uribe or Crede.....this is what you asked for.

Duque and Ozuna just suck beyond belief. I've been saying this for a while now.....we're going to need a 5th starter again sooner rather than later. Every pitch Duque throws is he a weak fastball or a hanger in the zone (if he has his control).

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:56 AM) Pablo f***ing Ozuna. God damn it. I still don't understand why we would bench Crede against a lefty in Colorado. He's been swinging pretty good lately, and he's obviously needed for his defense. Maybe this performance tonight will show people that we can't count on Ozuna to fill in all season at 3B or SS.

Ozuna just having an awful night. That was a play that Crede likely makes 9 times out of 10.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:53 AM) Fathom, you said Ozzie should tell all the players to just stay on the base. That implies Ozzie should have done something there. So should runners stay on the base when the count is 3 and 2? No. You have to know what I was trying to say. Of course you send the runner on 3-2, etc.

This looks like the typical 3rd game of the series after we won the first two games in the series. Any time you bench 3 starters, you're likely going to have a downgrade in ability on the field, both at the plate and on defense.

Can we bench Ozuna now?

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:46 AM) Fathom, CALM DOWN. Everything is not Guillen's fault. Are you watching the game? Ozuna looked over at Cora with his hands in the air. Ozuna lost track of the count, that play was totally his fault. He was not trying to steal, he was wandering toward 2nd. That is a flat out bad play by Ozuna, had nothing to do with Guillen. Wow, where did I say that play was Ozzie's fault? I just said that maybe Ozzie should lay off the aggressiveness a little overall. That was Ozuna's fault all the way. Inexcusable for the same player to get caught stealing twice in two innings....especially at Coors.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:44 AM) I doubt it's all Pablo's fault, heck I doubt it's even Pablos fault at all. Ozzie was more then likely making him steal there, and when your a part time player you don't go against what the manager said. Ozzie just blew it again, but that isn't news... Either way, it's getting ridiculous. We're consistently making stupid outs on the bases. After a while, they're not just mistakes......it's bad coaching and execution by the players.

SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE f*** IS THIS??? How many innings are we going to run ourselves out of before Ozzie just tells everyone besides Pods to stay on the f***ing base?

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:25 AM) Do you disagree with that?

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:20 AM) Everett is batting where he is because he has a knack for driving in big runs. Right there is a perfect example of why this team does not want to trade Carl Everett in 2005. Let him leave as a free agent and get a draft pick, fine. And right there is why you should be aggressive on the bases. Make the other teams make plays, put the pressure on them. Jim, there's no problem being aggressive with 2 outs. However, when you have an inexperienced base stealer trying to steal against a lefty with a good move, and no outs, that's not exactly "smartball". Also, Dye has easily become our most dangerous hitter at the plate.

Can we just congratulate Everett on a good game, and make the defensive substitution already?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 01:16 AM) Another quick question: Why is Dye batting behind Everett? Dye's clearly been our best hitter lately. Well, good job Carl! That was important to make up for PK's bat at-bat and the caught stealing.