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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 07:24 PM) exactly what people dont get is not only are these guys putting up good numbers but their rookies putting up good numbers. We are a little bit spoiled after Hinrich last year but fact is most rookies struggle and struggle bad. Last year with Lebron, Wade, Melo, and Capt. Kirk was anything but the norm. One of the best drafts ever.

Just to summarize I am for Tony Allen being in the Rookie/Sophomore game, in fact I think I started the arguement.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 07:17 PM) "for a team outside the playoffs." wrong They are the third seed so you're right there, leading the Atalantic Conference.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 07:17 PM) "Allen is coming off the bench" Well he isn't starting.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 07:12 PM) AI is a first ballot hall of famer. Gordon will never be close to such a thing. AI has the best crossover in the history of the nba. So many people have fallen on their asses it's not even funny. Gordon has nice handles but it's not even comparable. How can you say right now that Ben Gordon, a 21 year old whith ultra clutchness and is helping turn around a down team and making them competitive in his rookie year is not going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, it's to soon.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 07:07 PM) It says he started it but you have the first post in both. Ya I opened the thread and he didn't post anything so I put a couch in the thread.

Don't know ask Stocking he started the two different threads. Besides if we did wouldn't it be i n Pale Hose Talk.

Weird. this thread was empty when i arrived so i decided to decorate a bit.

QUOTE(MinnesotaSoxFan @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:44 PM) I could try... I need some new fonts first... You don't know how to make a sig, stop trying.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:52 PM) hmm is it just me or is talking about how a man penetrates seem odd? :headshake Why with the gay jokes?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:26 PM) I think someone is related to tony allen. Why because I like the way he plays?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:22 PM) Do you know what duhon's role on the team is? It's not to score. Anything he adds offensively is a big bonus. His last 7-8 games he has been shooting much better though. Duhon is the best penatrator that the bulls. He can kick out pass better thn anyone on the bulls and definitely better than both allen and udrih. Gordon penetrates better, the only problem is he makes ridiculously stupid passes at times. Duhon is awesome for this team and should be in the game just replace him with Ubrih.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:20 PM) Look at assists, and things that are not quantifiable by stats. And even IF Allen should be in over Duhon, there is NO justification for Udrih. To tell you the truth I agree with you that Duhon should be in the rookie game. Not over Tony Allen but he should be in over Ubrih.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:19 PM) I assume SABRsox has other things to talk about other than sabermetrics. SABR, do you know any famous Sox fans? By my earlier question of "why did you use green?" I was agreeing with you.

Tony Allen: YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG 04-05 BOS 41 3 14.3 .482 .333 .750 1.20 1.60 2.80 .8 .83 .29 1.00 1.70 6.0 Chris Duhon: YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG 04-05 CHI 40 31 24.2 .322 .327 .739 .30 2.20 2.40 4.9 .98 .00 1.73 2.30 4.6

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) AI avered 23.5 points playing 40 mins a game. Gordons avg. 13.1 points in in 22 mins. If Gordon got anywhere near the amount of time AI got on a consistent basis he could possibly of avg.ed more points than him their rookie years. and i said AI like, Ben Gordon wont need to avg. 30 ppg in a team with other scorers around him so he will score a little bit less but i think will have a better shooting pct. He better have a better Shooting pct. Iverson has a career fg% of 41.7%, not good.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:10 PM) Hes better than Udrih and Allen. Also Ben said he is looking forward to dunking on Kirk in the game. Duhon is shooting 32% and Ubrih is shooting 45% huge difference. I don't care what any stats say about Tony Allen, after watching him play this year he has to be in the game.

ROOKIE TEAM ROSTER Player Team Pos. Ht. Wt. College/Country Tony Allen Boston G 6-4 213 Oklahoma State Luol Deng Chicago F 6-8 220 Duke Ben Gordon Chicago G 6-3 200 Connecticut Devin Harris Dallas G 6-3 185 Wisconsin Dwight Howard Orlando F 6-11 250 SW Atlanta Christian Academy Andre Iguodala Philadelphia F 6-6 207 Arizona Emeka Okafor Charlotte F/C 6-10 252 Connecticut Josh Smith Atlanta F 6-9 225 Oak Hill Academy Beno Udrih San Antonio G 6-3 203 Slovenia SOPHOMORE TEAM ROSTER Player Team Pos. Ht. Wt. College/Country Carmelo Anthony Denver F 6-8 230 Syracuse Chris Bosh Toronto F 6-10 235 Georgia Tech Udonis Haslem Miami F 6-8 232 Florida Kirk Hinrich Chicago G 6-3 186 Kansas Josh Howard Dallas F 6-5 210 Wake Forest LeBron James Cleveland F 6-8 245 St. Vincent-St. Mary HS Kyle Korver Philadelphia F 6-6 211 Creighton Luke Ridnour Seattle G 6-1 167 Oregon Dwyane Wade Miami G 6-4 212 Marquette

QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 06:04 PM) The Bulls will have 3 representives in the game Hinrich,Gordon, and Deng. It really sucks that Duhon won't be making the trip he should be playing in the game, he leads all rookies in assists and is a starter on a possible playoff team. Anyways congrats to Kirk, Ben, and Deng. Who would you kick of the Rookie team inorder to add Duhon?

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 04:51 PM) This thread is sweet, so i feel the need to get in on it Can we get a specific day for this "event"? I'd like to start a highly anticipatory countdown. Thanks There already is a countdown see: Countdown of raff

If Eddy Curry is as healthy as he looked in the 4th quarter of the Nuggets game two night ago, then look for him to dominate against big white guy Primoz Brezec who will have no chance at gaurding Curry. Also watch Luol Deng and his matchup against Gerald Wallace who has been struggling of late and could be pulled early for Jason Kapono who has been playing a lot more lately with 43 minutes in his last two games combined after having 46 minutes combined in 3 previous games. Kapono is not going to be put on the floor for his defense so Deng should be able to take advantage of this matchup. Ben Gordon has the hot hand once again after picking up 10 points in the fourth quarter of the nuggets game, he also had 30 min. in that game, his most of the season, so he could be a huge factor if he recieves similar minutes.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 02:55 AM) We could really use some more new bulls*** stats threads. Why did you use green?

I was gonna say that didn't sound like a typical Jeckel post, there was no anger or Arow love.

It took me about 1 hour to make my Rancid sig, I think it turned out alright but I'm using inferier technology, f***en photoimpression4. Everytime I try to download Photoshop CS from WinMX or anyother peer sharing network it doesn't work so I'm stuck with a crappy program.

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