Soxfest

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Good bring them on

DM

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:36 PM) There always has to be some controversy with the White Sox.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) You have blind hate for kenny williams at this point. Sox would need to win two or three world seriosu before a select few of you would give him props and say he did just a decent job. Because I do not give him credit because Griffey got hurt, he done fine with this team but he is not fortune teller.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:25 AM) Didn't see this posted. Looks like Griffey was hurt pretty bad rounding the bases the other day. He may be out for the rest of the year (month). That would have been a disaster if the Sox picked him up and then he got injured like this. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2153942 Good non-move KW! Hindsight is 20/20 if he was here he might not of got hurt at all nobody knows so i do not give KW credit for what happened at all

Sox/Cubs get earlier and earlier every year

Great pitching today

pesky kc but a win none the less

Should of never had to go to Boston with a 5-2 lead in August ....good win

sweet...........i play EVERY reserve monday we got at boston

QUOTE(winodj @ Sep 3, 2005 -> 09:13 PM) Well... it is Rutgers. Rutgers is senior laden, nice win by illini to start Zook era.

Who the hell is starting BM?

Another good win.

JR'S.....Got to cut money somewhere with all the money he spent at trade deadline This is bulls*** :puke f*** the Score :finger

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...cs-home-utility Money seems to be at the heart of the matter. According to industry sources, the Sox's new radio deal with WSCR is substantially less than the current one with WMVP-AM 1000. As part of the new pact, the team reportedly wanted to ensure that neither Rooney nor Farmer would be subjected to pay cuts that could occur with reduced rights. It seems as if Rooney, however, wasn't able to get much of an increase from the station. Top radio play-by-play men in the major leagues make upward of $400,000. Farmer on play by play shoot me! :puke.........f*** WSCR the score :finger

det and kc for what ails ya

Nothing would make me happier than a White Sox championship, but at some point have to go from Point A to Point B in the postseason, having best record and winning central division is nice but very hollow.

This is out and out price gauging and bad thing is now it will always be artificially high for good i am afraid.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) Whining about the nature of this market needs to end. What Williams did last offseason should not blind any of you to the problems which exist. I don't know how to put it any clearer than this: the position we're at with this team--our record and position in the standings, was not a justification for merely acquiring Blum. And neither is indicating the lack of moves other American League teams made is a positive for us. Sox fans shouldn't be kindergarden teachers responsible for handing out stickers to young children (this instance Williams) who TWWIIIEEED, but couldn't succeed. He failed to upgrade the offense, and now because of it, it's ALL coming on him for anything less than a pitching collapse (which he couldn't have predicted) or a ALCS birth. Ask yourselves if future success is guaranteed with this club? With the resurgence of the Indians/Tigers, can anyone even guess whether or not we'll be in a position of a commanding lead for another 5 years? We can promote 6 contributing prospects with McCarthy leading the rotation and still find ourselves contending for 3rd place. 2005 could be our year--our window to take advantage of a stellar pitching staff and ride it through October. Now, I anticipate someone asking "you can't predict whether or not this team is guaranteed to win if a bat is acquired either!!!" Yes, but at this point, with our 4 automatic outs per evening, what we have doesn't convince me change (even at the slightest) wasn't absolutely necessary. I've read complaints relating to the prospects we may have had to give up. McCarthy, at this juncture, was the only untouchable. For an organization unable to produce pitching talent we need to hold onto those whch succeed. The remaining prospects can all be shipped for Raul Ibanez himself for all I care. Is Chris Young guaranteed to mimmick the outstanding production he's put together? Are Sweeney, Anderson, Owens and Young going to substitute for each other in the remaining OF position (RF)? If Young/Sweeney/Gonzalez were traded for f***ing Raul Ibanez I'd still consider it a justifiable move because the goal of baseball is to win championships. Neither of the aforementioned players have done anything to put our club in the position to strengthen itself this season. I understand the need to develop minor leaguers in order to keep a stream of cheap talent flowing. However, we're in need of help. Since no one can provide a Jeff Francouer boast we'll need help outside the organization. Even if top prospects were traded for Ibanez, and all made out to be quality major leaguers, it was worthwhile. Just think back to 2000--would any of you have overpaid for pitching if it meant trading our supposed talent? Probably not. We'd be having the same discussion. SS2k5 asked me in another thread whether or not I'd be willing to give up several starting pitchers/outfielders for slight upgrades. No, because I doubt those were the true asking prices near the deadline. I don't recall San Diego or Boston giving up an arm and a leg for Randa or Graffanino. Or Braves/New York handing over the farm for Hollandsworth/Lawton. Ultimately, our pitiful offense was in dire need of an upgrade. This was known prior to the passing of both trading deadlines. While Reds management blocked the KGJ prior to July 31, it was Williams duty to offer whatever possible to acquire Griffey. If Reds were unwilling to budge, it would have been within his best interests to move on. I intend to believe the Southtown article posted yesterday which claims money, not talent, was the true negotiating factor between the two clubs. Reinsdorf probably wouldn't budge on a set standard of contract he'd take on. No one can convince me of all the teams in this league, there was not ONE bat which could be acquired to help this club. Defend Williams now and hope this offense can win games, because if we're choking down the stretch or embarrassing ourselves in the playoffs you'll all have to repeat your Williams defense several hundred times to justify it. I agree that is what i said since trade deadline, reality is all these prospects we CANNOT give up by some will never be more than roster filler, odds say so If Sox had to overpay for someone so what, worry about 2005 not 2007.

Part about KW having 2 months is 100% on, I am tired of all the KW apoligist saying he had no chance etc, etc. No one but G.Blum is a joke so much for the we will have money to go get a guy we need in June/July crap he spews every dam year. I currently do not like this teams chances we play very sub .500ish against good AL competition every team is not KC.

Well I think KW could do more at deadline and now G.Blum only how can anyone say they are content................got ripped for saying it but sometimes you have to overpay to get the prize, winning AL Central does not mean a thing to me anymore, I am looking for more much more.

QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 06:18 PM) KW has under 5 hours to work some magic. If nothing gets done I will assume the market was still horrible because I believe KW is always searching and working hard on possible deals. Obviously we will all be disappointed if nothing happens, but that is just he way this year has been market wise. IMO it is almost essential to get someone thats better than mediocre to help out our offense be it Walker or anyone else. Sometimes player and money wise you have to bite the bullet and overpay to win it all,all these years of " we will pick up who we need to win come June or July " to win, this is the time to make something happen!