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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 09:17 AM) So, one way or another, he'd be lying? Ozzie doesnt have 100% say in who and what comes to the Allstar game. He has to replace like players/with like players. You would love to replace a 3rd baseman for the OF, however he needs to replace a like fielder/ with a like fielder. So magglio goes. I dont see the problem with it.
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2006 White Sox Catch-All Thread
southsideirish71 replied to greasywheels121's topic in 2006 Season in Review
QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Jul 3, 2006 -> 10:32 PM) There was really nothing to cheer about at tonight's game Where did Garcias velocity go? Last year he could throw in the 90s. Now he throws as hard as Buerhle. Except Buerhle has been throwing his velocity since he started in the majors. Garcia was at 91-93 last year. Very strange. -
QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 3, 2006 -> 08:07 PM) I don't care if this is labeled as "reactionary" or "negative," but after watching Garcia's weak fastball and weaker curveball I've already written him off for the year. He's not turning anything around (relating to statistics) unless his velocity returns. If it doesn't, forget about receiving value for him. Runners are going wild, curveballs are hanging left/right; he just can't rear back and fire a 94 mph fastball anymore. I just got back from tonights game. Garcia was throwing 86-88 on his fastball on the gun at the park. He reared back and threw one for 91. But for the most part he was living in the 80s. Bedard was hitting 93-94 most of the time. Bmac was at 90 with his fastball, and Thornton was at 97-98, Cliff Politte was at 90-91. Outside of the pitching performance. My only question how outside of a medical issue, what happened to Garcias fastball. He has been a 91-94 guy for years. Then all of a sudden this year poof. Nothing. Its very very wierd.
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All of our pitchers are just a bit off. Not the major disaster that everyone is making it out to be. Javier Vazquez: Javier gets a lot of hitters into 2 strike situations, probably as many as Contreras does. His problem from what I have seen is making quality pitches on 2 strikes. He has a nasty slider that he doesnt throw enough to right handers. He faced Derrick Lee and in 2 consecutive ABs he attacked the zone differently. He got ahead 1-2, then the first time he threw a slider that started on the outside corner and went away. Derrick fished for it, and it was a K. The next time he threw a two seam fastball that ran back over the plate. Derrick hit the ball into left field. It was two things a poor pitch call by AJ, and poor execution by Vaz. Getting cute and trying to back door a guy with a 1-2 count is dangerous. IMO if he threw another slider away, its either a strikeout or a popout to right and the inning is over. After the mistake pitch, Ramirez hits a homer 3 runs scored. He was 1 pitch away from getting out of the inning. Its just execution, and picking the right attack model. Garland: He has to do 2 things to be successful. One is to throw 1st pitch strikes. He gets that first pitch over and he can then get them to hit his sinker. When Jon is 2-0 on hitters he doesnt have the fastball to blow people by. When he throws strikes he is a much more effective hitter. Secondly he needs to start to throw in more to righties and away from lefties. When you pitch into righties with his down and in action, he gets a lot of pounded into the dirt balls and broken bats. Its what he did last year to be successful in the first part of the year. Also you cannot throw down and in to the lefties. That is the sweet spot for a lot of lefties and they handle that pitch very well. Buerhle: Buerhle needs to run his cutter in on the right handers. When he doesnt establish the inside corner, we see what happened yesterday, a lot of guys diving over the plate and hitting his offspeed stuff away hard. When he pounds that cutter in, they cant dive like that. When he goes away, away, away he gets hurt. Garcia: His fastball is pretty much a different pitch than last year. He needs to mix a two seamer in. He is another guy who needs to establish his fastball to make his breaking pitches better. For the years of Freddy having a great fastball, he would start every game throwing a ton of breaking pitches. He would get a lot of strikeouts earlier, and with throwing breaking pitches that take some time to get into a groove, he would give up a lot of early runs. Then later in the game, he would use his sinker more and his fastball inside more. He needs to almost pitch backwards. He needs to use his sinker and fastball more early on, then go to his breaking pitches as the game progresses. He is someone that gets hurt now, because his breaking stuff is excellent, however when you see it 3 times in a game, you get a gage for how to hit it. Plus as breaking stuff goes, he has a propensity to hang it the more he throws it early in a game. Just a few things separate a consistant starter with his new found lost velocity. He also needs to throw more strikes. Without having the big fastball, he cannot get into 2-0 counts because his fastball is now pedestrian and will get him hurt in those situations. Contreras: Stuff nasty nothing more to say. He just needs to get on top of his fastball more and keep it down. Coop was saying on the radio that he currently is between arm angles and is letting the ball fly. This would explain why he is now easier to hit and has been getting hit more. If Jose throws early fastballs and can get different angles his forkball will be unhittable. My only question is why did he add a 3rd arm angle after his last DL. Adding a major change like that makes for more mistakes and being in between of your mechanics. Kind of what we have been seeing. Again, these are things that can be ironed out. Its not a major overhaul. Its just minor tweaks that need to happen, and our pitching will be fine.
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Schilling can go f*** himself and so can the Red Cub nation. They voted in a 250 f***ing hitter. When you decide to vote in trash because he is one of your beloved Red Cubs, the you can f***ing cry when your precious little bloody sawx moron doesnt get in. Schilling over values himself, and he can go to hell. Hafner is not having a better year than either Konerko or Thome. So he can eat s***, and so can the Tribe fans who think otherwise. And to the tiger fans who for whatever reason inhabit this board. Take your b****ing and whining and self importance elsewhere. I could care if you feel that Jimmy is a better person and would take x player because of his neutralism. Ozzie saw Verlander 2 times. He got hit pretty well both times. Dye deserves to go over Magglio. I think its awsome that Ozzie took his team. The yanks and red cubs have been doing this for years. Now we do it, and we are the bad guys. Pound sand. Lets vote AJ in and make it a lucky 7.
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Scratch Scott Williamson from the list
southsideirish71 replied to southsideirish71's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 10:58 AM) I hope Ozzie does not respond at all. Who cares about this guy? Jessie and George were almost happy with glee that this happened, the next comment after this interview was "I cant wait to here how Ozzie reacts" -
Scratch Scott Williamson from the list
southsideirish71 replied to southsideirish71's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 10:57 AM) What is he supposed to say?? If he were traded to the sox he woule embrace instantly. There is a difference in saying I am happy where I am at, and in saying no I dont want to play for this particular manager. Trade speculation happens at this point in the season. He said he didnt want to play for Ozzie, specifically because he handled the Sean Tracey situation the way he did. -
Here is a name that is mentioned by some posters on this site. On hit and run with Jessie and George Offerman they had Scott Williamson on for an interview. They asked him if he would like playing for a coach like Ozzie. Then Scott said right off the bat, no I dont want to play for him. It was based on the Sean Tracey incident, and how Dusty is a great guy because he is laid back. He expects that he will be traded though to somewhere. But the minute Ozzie and Kenny get wind of this interview, that will put a block on him ever coming to the whitesox. I shudder to think of what Ozzie's response is. I think it will sound like this. Scott who, he is a piece of s***. He can play on the cubs for ever. We dont take AAA pitchers on our team.
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White Sox vs. Cubs July 2 Game Thread
southsideirish71 replied to DBAHO's topic in 2006 Season in Review
The key today is for Paulie to keep ripping Zambrano up and down the field. Buerhle needs to pound the zone in and we will win this. Let get crazy jumping and stomping around the mound. -
Vazquez needs to start throwing his slider on 2 strikes to right handers. He keeps making the same mistake on 2 strikes, he either throws a curve that hangs, or he throws a two seamer that comes back over the middle of the plate. Everytime I see him throw a 2 strike slider to a lefty the guy goes down.
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Their closer has medicore stuff. Our closer has scary f***ing stuff. The fat man gets another save. 100mph on the gun. You have to love that. Nice win. Good for AJ.
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The fatman got some extra time to warm up. Here come 100mph Flubbers.
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Cub fans throwing trash on their own field. LOL THis is a kodak moment.
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Get the fat man up!!!!!!
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En Fuego Barrett!!!!!!!
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I own that middle finger anti cub fan shirt. LOL
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QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 1, 2006 -> 03:13 PM) LMAO@these moron Cubs fans on their feet, as if this games matters for them. They are all about 90000 lbs from what I see.
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Now its time for Dye to do something here.
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QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 1, 2006 -> 03:07 PM) Vazquez was awful, but that doesn't excuse BA from killing us in two big offensive situations. You can't excuse not getting a bunt down in that situations. That is one of the things a hitter has to be able to do. I know you dont like BA. And thats fine. But having our starting pitching give up 5 runs to one of the crapiest offenses in baseball really puts you in the s***ter. Just a thought.
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Here is another meathead double switch. Konkero is out, because Ozzie needed to have a double switch. How about taking Brian Anderson out, putting the pitcher in that spot, and then putting mack in center. We get Mack to leadoff. Ross is not a good leadoff guy, as he swings at everything. Now if we do tie it, we dont have Kong or Thome in the game. Dumb
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What has put us in a hole this game, is not the inability for brian to put a bunt down. Its the inability for Vazquez to throw quality pitches when he was ahead 0-2 and 1-2. Constantly throwing high pitches in the zone with 2 strikes was what lead to this. Vazquez got ahead of Lee and had a 1-2 count on him, then threw a fastball that tailed over the plate. He had Kd him the previous at bat with the slider he never uses for whatever reason. Thats 3 runs that Ramirez knocked in then would of come back off the board. But you knew after that Vaz would have a meltdown.
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QUOTE(VAfan @ Jul 1, 2006 -> 02:59 PM) That's 0-3 in attempted bunts in the last couple of innings. Iguchi, Uribe, Anderson. Ozzie should have pinch hit the last two times. Where is Mack or Cintron against Howry? This I agree on. Mack should of pinch hit there.
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Anyone see how many really overweight people there are behind home plate today.
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A lot of dumb bunting with people who have a hard time bunting. I know its a national league park, but why do we have to f***ing have guys who cant bunt, bunt. Wind is howling out, let some people lift the ball and lets see what happens. QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 1, 2006 -> 02:59 PM) You would think a guy hitting .175 could atleast get a bunt down. He missed the part of bunting practice when you are supposed to bunt at a strike, and not the high inside pitch the pitcher wants you to bunt at.