southsideirish71

So now every teacher wants online instruction. So great. They are ready to go right. A full day of zoom meetings, meaningful instruction and tests/grades. Its not going to be another semester of once a week zoom meetings and 20 minutes of busy work for homework. No pass/fail bullshit right. They have had months to figure this out. So the education system is ready to go right. I already know the answer to this. Because if the plan is more of the same whats the point. The goalposts have moved. It's now shutter the system until a vaccine comes out.

Its real simple. If antibodies do not have a long term cycle of protection and people can get this more than once. Then all of this is for naught. A vaccine will not work then.

I want an actual education for my kids. Not a fucking once a week zoom with homework that lasts 30 minutes. If this is more of the same in the fall. Then there is zero point. The same elderly teachers that are at risk to get covid and have secondary issues also have a non-existent grasp of how to use technology. So this will be another round of "we are not ready for this". Then more once a week zooms.

The mask order should be nationwide. It should be mandatory. Its not the new normal. Its the normal until there is a vaccine and this gets behind us.

Masks should be mandatory for all indoor activity and for any outdoor activity you cant socially distance. If a person doesn't wear the mask or refuses to wear it properly ( the people who pull it off to talk, or wear it around their neck ). They can GTFO. First time you get kicked out, for the Karen crew and the Freedom people who want to execute their protest rights. Great protest your ass off in the parking lot. And you get a 30 day ban from the store on round 2 of your attempt. Round 3, permaban.

There is no arguing with you. Its the same tactic. You come up with an absurd thought. You double down on said absurd thought sighting research from the internet. You make several runs at better explaining it back editing your posts. Then you either tap out or you punt to the fact that you are autistic as a reason for being obtuse. You throw out technology answers when you barely have a grasp of how half this shit works. Sure you know a bit more than your parents and maybe a few of your friends. But that doesn't matter. You read something on the internet, it punched through your brain-pan and what comes out enviably is a rube goldberg plan for society. I hope your basement is well stocked. See you in two years when you can finally get your vaccine.

So my family and I have already had Covid. So why exactly do I need to bunker down in my basement waiting for my stipend of meat.

You would cut food production. Cool. So what happens when the old person who barely can use the internet cant add food to their instacart when the food is not there. You just cut food production, so when that gets out into the press people will inevitably put a run on the food supply.

So you would have us in phase 1 and completely locked down.

So you would have us still in phase 1? At what point would we open up.

Stay in your parents basement Jack where it’s safe. I am wearing masks, socially distancing and staying safe. Your idea of an absolute lockdown has about a .04 percent chance of anyone following it. It ain’t happening.

Other countries have stopped this without shutting down the entire economy. Wear masks, social distance and stay home when you can. You don't have to hide in your basement and hunt in the backyard to get game meat. Unfortunately its not just about the rich people getting richer. In your social utopia where everyone stays in and food is delivered to your door humans are still going to need to be out working, and unfortunately be exposed in shitty conditions at times. It requires people at the source of food production. Then people to collect the food and bring it to processing plants. You realize that it still requires people to go into warehouses, collect the items, put them into shipping containers. Then people put them on trucks. The trucks drive to a distribution point, and then those people have to sort them and load them on delivery trucks. So in the end people are still going to have to work. We don't have a robot army yet.

I want to see baseball. I want to see major league sports across all the spectrum. Its not safe to do this now. My TV will still allow me to enjoy the games and watch my teams. The target should be getting the economy back on track and the kids back to school. There is zero value of pushing fans in the stands besides building a large lab experiment to spread the virus.

I can tell you this from my wife accord. There are parents who do not like their kids to be sent home from school even if they are truly sick. They could have a diagnosed flu test and they will still send Jr to school. They will use medicine to help to temporarily lower the fever to try and bypass the school nurse. You realize that these same people are going to do the same stupid tricks when their kids are sick with something else besides the flu. Then you have the other side that if Timmy sniffles they block out 2 weeks for that kid being away from school. I can only imagine how that is going to work in the fall. And some of the temperature taking is a joke. I had my dentist take my temp with a thermal scan. Oh you are 94 you are good. Lady if I was 94 degrees I would be dead.

***This is not directed at you Bmag*** I just wanted to jump onto this thread. I have already had Covid as well as my family. I also identify as a conservative. We are finally just starting to open up. I want to see this open up more. But it requires one thing. Wear a fucking mask. I hate wearing a mask. Its not comfortable. But in the end its something I do because its a requirement and if it opens up the economy and keeps the people from spreading it around then lets go for it. I have witnessed over and over how morons want to fight with store owners on their personal freedoms. My anti-vaxxing neighbor has issued a petition to their facebook friends on how the wittle kids cant wear masks in school. Which is bullshit. This is the same lady who lets her 3 year old run in the middle of the street while she does something else besides parent. Oh and the kicker she is going to school for to work as a respiratory specialist. Thats the person I want taking care of me when I have issues. These are the crazy "freedom" caucus members who are just ignorant. Now do I think that Covid will kill most people. Probably not. If you are not old or have secondary issues you will run through it. And on the other side we have the crazies who want to stay locked away until there is a cure. They watch Pandemic media porn every night where they forget that most "News" outlets will do anything for ratings. They almost relish locating a person under 25 who has it and dies. I saw someone link a 15 year old who died. The headline read healthy 15 year old dies of Covid. So while Covid probably finished him off. He was a newly diagnosed Type 1 diabetic with a 1500 mg/l blood sugar count and obese. So while he succumbed to Covid as a betting man the other two issues probably helped with turning this for the worse. In the end this becomes a battle of crazies on both sides and then the rest of us in the middle. But wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience to get my kid back into in person classes then he wears a mask. If you really are a so called conservative then its in your best interest to get these numbers under control so there is no risk of being put back into the penalty box. Wear your fucking mask already.

My school district gives out ipads and there is zero paper footprint. They were submitting homework and taking exams in class via the ipad before Covid. They had an advantage over most. So who is at fault? The one zoom every other day for each class is okay? Some classes had no tests for the entire quarter? Some didnt want to give grades besides Pass/Fail? How hard is it to figure that out. So what is your wifes school district doing right now as we speak to prepare for online education. You cant just show up in August and go woe is me we are still not prepared. Are you going to tackle teachers needing to be on video conferencing for the better part of the day. Are you going to be able to provide adequate testing to validate learning. Is it going to be engaging and with instruction that is preparing for college. Because to be honest if this is what we are getting then they can furlough a bunch of the teachers and just have a hall monitor collect homework and take attendance. The current online education is worthless. My son was able to do his entire days worth of homework in under 20 minutes. His lowest grade was a 99 for the quarter. He slept after he completed his homework until 2pm everyday. The only time he needed to get up was to attend the occasional zoom. His GPA was already a 4. But this is not preparing him for college when he will be challenged and will be behind. I dont want a participation award medal. I want him prepared for college to get the best opportunity to be successful in life. My wife works at a school district and they are doing shit right now to prepare for the fall. I think they believe this is just going to go away. I dont see anyone preparing an online curriculum. To do a true online testing program will require some of the students "rights" to be given up when their device is monitored. And this pass/fail stuff is nonsense. Challenge for a grade or just extend vacation until there is a cure. The online side is not education, its a glorified check box to prove that someone is ready for the next grade.

Are these kids staying at home, sheltering in place. They are not interacting right now in the summer in their neighborhoods. The kids are all out all over the place none of them wearing masks unless they have to go inside of a store.

The last semester of education was a joke. They might as well not have school if this is what its going to be. My son is taking a bunch of AP classes including Calc, Physics and Robotics. That will be nearly useless if its a zoom once every few days with a bunch of home work is the schedule just like last semester. The pass/fail shit is stupid as well because it doesnt help those trying to get academic scholarships when their GPA and all the hard work they have put in gets neutered by randomness. High School is a sprint to college. At this point if they close down school again this fall. I will just pick up and move to somewhere where my kids can actually get an education. Not glorified babysitting service where the teacher gets to check in every few days. They are not ready nor will they be for a online curriculum.

So does going to the park, to the grocery store, or hanging out with their friends. if you think that teenagers are sitting in their homes isolated while this is all going on I have some land to sell you.

They can wear cloth based masks, a tee shirt, or bandanna as a barrier. I don't see N95 masks everywhere outside these days. I see a mix of everything including shirts, bandannas, home made masks. To gain entrance to private institutions I have to wear a mask. Part of being in the class is you have to wear the mask. Yes you kick the kid out of class if he refuses. I would rather suspend some kids and have a normal education than to take 2 to 3 years off a kids schooling because you are waiting for a cure that is not a guarantee to be here anytime soon.

They can wear masks. They are in high school. It can be made to be mandatory.

They are in high school. They can wear masks. The online school was a fucking joke. Before this started my kids were high honors students. The online classroom is so fucking easy. They put in about 45 minutes of work a day with their "online" class. They are getting cheated by this. Most of kids in their class cheat. Its dumb to think you can even remotely have the same level of instruction online. This nonsense of not having in person classes until a cure comes. Good luck with that.

There is a difference in protesting and looting. When a white kid shoots up a school a mob typically doesn't sack the local Walmart and steal everything including weapons. Taking the weapons away here seems like a prudent step.

Fraud is a tool of the wealthy?

Well someone is taking it. Hence why I responded to him. "All" is the word he used.