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QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) Contreras is having a better season than Burnett or Schmidt and he's way better than McCarthy. So unless we're getting Roger Clemens, I'll stick with Jose, even though he does frustrate at times. Well the Counts next start is against his favorite team, the BoSox. This will give us a good barometer of how far he has truly come.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 03:49 PM) The HR number is very, very troubling; however, if Adkins' name is even being discussed by the Sox brass--which it very well may not--Embree deserves a serious look. Adkins v. Embree ...gimme Embree. NO EMBREEE

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) You know this how? He never gives his inside WhiteSox source

Its odd that so many managers have problem with this turd of an umpire. Now when Ozzie gets into it with him, its just Ozzie being crazy. But when Gardy gets into with him, its a story on ESPN. Hopefully the MLB gets on Hunter and tells him that he isnt the show, people do not pay money to see him. Gardy sounds like Ozzie here

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 03:18 PM) To the Sox???? More likely to the Twins for Romero. They just got rid of Embree also. The Bosox are in movement now.

For Juan Cedeno and Chip Ambres The Royals received left-hander Juan Cedeno from Class A Wilmington and outfielder Chip Ambres from Class AAA Pawtucket. Ambres, 25, is likely to replace Graffanino on the Royals’ roster, but Cedeno, 22, is viewed by club officials as the key acquisition in the deal. Cedeno is a left-hander with a fastball that regularly reaches 95 mph. He recently converted to bullpen duty and will pitch as a reliever at Class AA Wichita. “We really like his potential,” general manager Allard Baird said. “He gives us another power arm. He shows signs of a plus breaking ball, but that still needs work — as does his command.” Cedeno, 6 feet 1 and 175 pounds, was 2-6 with a 5.61 ERA in 21 appearances at Wilmington. He has 68 strikeouts in 78 1/3 innings but also 37 walks and 10 wild pitches. Ambres was the Marlins’ first-round pick in 1998 and spent six years in the Florida organization before signing last November with the Red Sox as a minor-league free agent. He is batting .294 in 83 games at Pawtucket with 10 homers and 50 RBIs in 83 games. That puts him ahead of his career pace — .258 with 67 and 303 in 715 games. Confirmation

Sounds interesting, it depends on the date though with my work schedule.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) Are we talking about foot-falling-off Schilling or normal Schilling? I'd take normal Schilling, too. The Curt Schilling of the Arizona Diamond backs sure. Last years and this years. Forget it. Buerhle over him in a heartbeat.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:32 AM) Agree with Rock here, it's based on Levine speculating. But Levine could have a point and be right. Suppose Hermanson's back lands him on the 15 day DL. This is as good a spot as any to give Jenks the ball in late innings. I'm not saying he's better than other options but let's find out. I would rather find out about Jenks ability to help this team in 2005 now vs. after the trade deadline. They won't be able to baby this guy down the stretch and in the playoffs, let's see if he's got the right stuff. If that's the case, then a guy like Adkins fits, although he is not that great. Adkins is stretched out and can work the garbage innings, thus saving other bullpen arms for more important roles. Bruuce Levine is as accurate as carpet bombing. Eventually, just like all improbable things he will get one correct. Remember the Crypt Keeper Gammons had AJ coming here as a done deal the other night. Speculation is bascially another word for bulls***. Give Jenks the ball. Cooper, AJ and others need to see if this guy is the real deal. If he is, with that fastball he is as good of a possiblity out of the pen as anyone out there. We have a very nice comfortable lead. We can give the ball to jenks here and there and see what he is made of. They had him up in the 9th yesterday with Politte.

Why again do we care about a group of journalists who picked us for 4th in the division, preseason ranked us in the high teens to mid 20s in power rankings. And basically picked the Injuns and the Twinks to battle it out for the division. Yet we are all worried about a dude who has the 1920's handle of Buster, the Crypt Keeper(Boston Gammons), John "One Nut" Kruk, and HR making predictions. Maybe we should worry next about Rob Neyer who doesnt like our uniforms as his reason to hate the sox. If our pitching shows up we can beat those teams. The only things to worry about is getting Jenks seasoned. Our offense has time to get better with situational hitting. Thats pretty much what we should work on.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:13 AM) I think he was just goofing around, DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:02 AM) What the hell is your problem? IMHO opinion it was a bad move. I would've been happy if they traded something and got somebody good. That didn't happen. I think everyone on at least 3 boards can attest to the fact that you like Shingo and think its a bad move. We get it. Its over get over it.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 09:46 AM) Who voted for Charlotte and he will be called up in September besides me. Well here is good luck to you Josh and Dingo and your new identity on some Diamondback board of SnakeBitJosh.

All that I want out of El Duque is to be that 5th starter. When and if we get a chance we skip him to keep him fresh. He becomes the long man in the pen during the playoffs. Tonight showed me he is ready for that.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) Every breaking ball he threw except for his drop down sliders, seemed to hang in the inner portion of the plate. Watching the game, I was surprised we weren't down 8 when he left the game. The big thing for me was his velocity. He was getting it up there in the high 80s at times. Very nice. However this is someone you use as a long reliever in the playoffs, and not to start a game.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 04:49 PM) Also said the White Sox are interested in Jeff Weaver who might be moved and same with Derek Lowe. I want no Jeff Weaver. He would suck at the Cell. Jeff Weaver is a boras client just like Derek Lowe. There is about the same chance as Ronny Woo taking over for SouthPaw as our mascot as this happening.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 04:31 PM) Flexibility doesn't imply making an unnecessary trade. Unnecessary to win the divison maybe, to put us over the top maybe not. AJ Burnett and Lowell isnt a smart trade. Let some other fool over pay for that. AJ doesnt put us over the top or provide something necessary. I am not sold on Schmidt. What are our worries. Crede's health? Maybe pick up Randa as a backup for Crede. Or a utility guy who can provide a good stick and play good defense at 3rd if Crede has to go down. Insurance is key. If we didnt learn anything from last year. Bullpen, you need a stocked pen for the playoffs. Your starters are going on shorter rests and have a pitch count that they cant go over or they effect the next start. The bullpen is key. Adding a Wagner puts you over the top here. I am not for trades for trades sake, but if something can put us over or provide a need go for it.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 04:22 PM) I wonder if JR & KW will start learning for this year's and last year's trading deadlines. Instead of trading loads of talent for good SPs midseason, maybe they'll sign one prior to the season next season... Then they BS'd everyone when they said the payroll this year was to give them the "flexibility" to go for it in June/July like they said at Soxfest.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) Who?

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) haha i dont think so...he did kinda chuckle and say you can stop looking at the rumor mills on websites because a big move isnt gonna happen Thats a focking confirmation. The minute he starts the giggling or the "who is that player, have I ever heard of this player" Then a deal is in the works.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) Maybe he should hit Carlos Guillen instead Then f**gsworth charges out of the bullpen looking for someone to spear. He eyes that damn Mark Buerhle how he shuts down his hitters, he goes in for the spear and then he hits a brick wall. The brick wall is moving. Looks up, and he is getting tossed by the Big Hurt into section 151.

QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) KW is on the Score and said no trades forthcoming on a major scale After that did he giggle or snicker and ask silly questions like who is this Billy Wagner character.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) If we get Wagner I will hump my computer when I read the story NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 02:10 PM) Eric Casilias said last week if the WSox were in the AL East they would be a 4th place team If his aunt had balls he would be his uncle.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 02:15 PM) I think Shingo pitched his last pitch in Cleveland as a member of the White Sox organization. It's a shame he didn't get the proper exit out of town, but, nothing's perfect. Best of luck in the future and I hope he nets something of value in return. I want to give KW big props for making a difficult move. Shingo is a nice guy, but we are trying to do something real special this year. Last year we hung on to Mike Jackson because of him getting some record. He was a nice guy also. On the plus side, who thinks that this will scare a certain Vizcaino into pitching a bit better. Your job is not safe. Pitch well or be left behind.