southsideirish71

Who cares again how many home runs our 225 ba hitting shortstop hits. If he hit the 25 home runs and say shortened his swing up with men on 2nd and 3rd with no outs like tonight to be a team player. Then keep him. But no, he is almost losing his lunch trying to park every pitch over the fence. We need a base hit and he is going for mars. Everyone thinks we need to change the team up because this formula doesnt work. But when you start to take some of these guys from the team everyone states well player A hits this many home runs. Watch the entire season and watch how many times mr 25 home runs failed to come through with men on because he either K'd or poped up trying to get a basehit late in a game with a home runs swing. How many times did he K 7 times in a row. How many times did he drop a ball to lose a game or kick one. For the few times he did hit a bit home run, there are other times were his electric glove, baserunning ability, or clutch contact lost us the game.

Another chapter of stone hands valentin booting the potential game ending ground ball. I think the valentin apologists can argue about clutch home runs and home runs in general. Give me a SS who his 270 and has good defense and I will take that over watching stone hands kick the ball all over the field and almost fall over trying to park every pitch onto mars. He is a Pedro Cerrano/Rob Deer all wrapped up into a shortstops body. Who hits 225 anymore anyways, geez. Sox win another nail biter with a good lead going into the 9th. Atkins grooves a few down the cock and then stone hands kicks the ball all over the field and it sets up Lawton who hit a dong off of shingo last time. Shingo gets revenge and the sox win. Thanks for the drama at the end Atkins and stone hands.

Well stone hands booted another game ending bouncer to short to allow the tieing man to come to the plate with 2 outs. I dont care if he hits a billion home runs, his 225 BA and his constant swinging for the fences and his piss poor defense needs to find another home.

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I just dont know what we have left to trade besides Borchard who KW has a man crush on and wont let go.

Is tearing into the Whitesox for being swept. He is going into his usual rant.

We shouldnt trade Sweeney unless the trade was really worth it. I was at spring training this year and this kid has a sweet swing. He was fearless. His swing is a reminder of Baines swing. He has gap power and once he fills in a bit could be a big star.

If we got both of these guys and had Hariston leading off, and cantalantto hitting second that would change this big time. Hairston 2b Cantalanatto RF (Dont crucify me spelling police) Everett DH Lee LF Konerko 1B Valentin SS Rowand CF Crede 3b The three headed beast of Burke/Davis/Alomar at C Not bat at all. Hairston can get on and steal bases, Cant has good bat control and has a good average. Everett has been pretty good at hitting doubles and keeping the line moving. That would give Lee and Konerko and Valentin an opportunity to bash with men on. Rowand could be the saftey valve for Valentin striking out to rescue with men on and 2 out. Me likey, however I dont think we have anything to trade to get it. Please dont trade Sweeney. That guy is going to be a stud. I was at spring training this year and he was a stud, sweet swing reminds you of Baines.

Baseball Prospectus projects Valdez to be a utility man. However his numbers warrant a serious look during september call ups. He makes contact, sprays the ball to all fields. Supposedly he is a plus bunter according to scouting reports. Sounds exactly like what Willie Harris is supposed to do at this level. His revival came under Guillens watch. His Arm is a plus and his defense is good. Why not bring this guy up to give us more of that grinder approach that we keep hearing about. I would like him to take more pitches and walk more, but you cant falter a guy who makes contact. Especially after this series debacle. What do you think? Wilson Valdez Stats split between marlins AAA and the sox AAA .327 BA 25 SB 416 AB 53Ks 18BB 2Hr 5 triples 14 doubles

Maybe he should care about Valentin then, he is hitting below 240.

Sounds like Ozzie figures he cant fix Uribe's pull only step in the bucket mentality. In May I thought this guy was going to be in the AllStar game with his level swing and hitting to all fields. Then he fell into the pull only mentality. Kind of sad, so much talent but no head.

If Uribe would get back to what worked which was using a level swing and hitting to all fields he would be a better fit than Miles. However the stepping in the bucket, cheating on the fastball, dipping his back shoulder to get elevation Uribe is a disaster.

Sox lineup for today Harris cf .266 Perez rf .257 Lee lf .304 Everett dh .256 Konerko 1B .289 Valentin SS .237 Uribe 2b .266 Crede 3b .236 Davis C .130 On the bench rowand .310 We have a game last night were people dont get on and we have a lot of guys trying to jack the ball. So today we take Arow out of the lineup, why? Ozzie is on AM1000 saying that Willie Harris and Uribe will come through and we dont need to make a trade. Well Ozzie if Harris actually takes the bat off his shoulder and attacks the ball like he did before instead of watching pitches down the middle and Uribe starts to hit to all fields instead of trying to pull the ball for the dong he may be right. But I dont see either happening.

Harris has a problem not with his talent its with the melon between his ears. He goes up there timid, looking for the walk or trying to do a slap bunt. When he had his brief successful stint earlier this year, he was attacking the ball. Now he looks like he is out before he puts both feet in the box. That is why he can hit in the minors and struggle in the bigs. Its been the same thing with most of our prospects over the years. They do good and have the talent in the minors but struggle here because they lose confidence. Look at how he takes lead offs, he is almost glued to the bag. The guy is barely getting back on routine throws over. He has the speed but the noggin is definately not in place. The last guy to come up with guts and confidence was Buerhle.

Who can we get to shore up the first part of the lineup. I dont want to sound like Jeckle but Rowand should be the number 2 hitter next year full time. Valdez the guy we got for Billy Chaos is hitting .342 in Charlotte. I know its a hitters park, but he doesnt exactly rip power numbers. He might be a better option when Harris doenst pay off. But we need to start to get some guys who have high on base and good averages to hit in front of the big boppers. I think with a leadoff hitter and rowand hitting second that is a good start. Anyone have any ideas on possible grinders we can get for next year.

From the Southtown Home boys Hunter had a ninth-inning at-bat after the collision, but figured it was very unlikely he would get beaned in retaliation with reliever Mike Jackson on the mound for the Sox. The two were good friends as teammates in Minnesota in 2002. "I probably would have cracked up laughing, because he's like my boy, you know," Hunter said when asked what his reaction would have been if Jackson had thrown at him. Jackson, by contrast, became upset when asked about the topic. "If fans think I should have hit him, you tell them to come get on the mound," Jackson told one reporter.

Our hitters do have the ability to hit to all fields. However they are mentally challenged and these dogs will not change. We have been through 3 hitting coaches who have all attempted the same thing. Have them use the entire field. I dont understand Uribe. I mean most hitters review tape and try to figure out what they are doing when they are in a slump. Konerko watched tape after tape and did hard work last year to get out of the slump. Uribe steps in the bucket now to cheat on the fastball in so he can hit it for power. I have no faith that he will fix it this year, he is a mental midget. Who remembers Olivo resting his bat on his shoulder all of last year. It took winter ball to fix that. Valentin needs to go away. I know we all love his long home runs. But I never thought I would see a .239 hitters with almost 100 Ks hitting in the two hole. Long looping swings, cheating on the fastball in, rolling their wrists over on the fastball away. Corpseball the 2004 edition. Maybe at the end of the year press conference he can talk about grinders again. And then lock up grinder valentin and his 239 average for another year. We need hitters more on the side of the .280 mark instead of hitters towards the .250 mark.

Carlos is still waiting for something inside he can drive. It isnt going to be there Carlos start to think about hitting to the opposite field. Stubborn meatheads. It isnt going to be there tonight. You have to adjust to what the pitcher is throwing. The scouting report on the sox probably reads. Throw away consistantly with soft tossing pitchers. Selfish hitters will try to hit home runs on outside pitch. You will get a 4 hitter if you do this.

Lets see Radke is consistantly throwing on the outside corner, probably like 80 percent of the time. Our hitters are still trying to pull the pitch on the outside corner and are popping up and grounding out. Maybe the 4th time through the order they will figure it out. Every pitcher that has made us look silly this year has done the same thing, spot the fastball on the outside corner. Our pull only hitters cannot react and are only looking for a pitch center in to drive. We are getting 3 hit because our hitters are stubborn and cant think at times.

We dont need another power hitter who hits .250. We have plenty of those. Lets get Frank Catalanotto. He is hitting .335. We need someone that can get on and move the train along on the basepaths. Not another power hitter who will K or hit the dong.

TIME TO MAKE A MOVE KENNY Lets get Frank Catalanotto. He can play OF, DH and is cheap.

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