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The game was a big deal in Winston Salem. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/ar...sp&sid=t580

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 02:58 PM) I get what you're saying. But we've got to see if 2008 was just indeed a career year. His value has diminished enough as it is. A part-time CQ is almost worthless. And if it gets to that point it'll at least let us know that he should be non-tendered next year. Q's going to have a pretty good year. The only way I see him getting non-tendered is if he spends a good deal of the year on the DL. But say he has a monster 1st half of the season then injured for the rest I still don't imagine he'd be non-tendered.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 29, 2011 -> 10:42 PM) I do absolutely love Viciedo. It's hard for me to even think of someone with a bat that quick with so much strength behind it. The first thought that pops into my head is Cecil Fielder but I don't foresee Viciedo adding that much weight. Jose Guillen actually isn't a terrible comparison, but I think Viciedo is going to hit for a higher average and a bit more power than that too. If I had to give a range, I'd say anywhere between an .850-.950 OPS during his peak years - anywhere from .300/.350/.500 to .325/.375/.575 (with some wiggle room in-between). If Quentin wants to start for the White Sox next year, he really needs to bring his A-game because Viciedo is going to be knocking on the door. And for your personal sake, he better have a good year because I could easily see the Sox resigning Pierre on a 1-year deal to bridge the gap to Mitchell or whomever with Viciedo taking over in RF in 2012 if he does not. Nice to see some support for Viciedo. Somewhere around a year ago I said Viciedo could be an impact bat and compared his upside to another player. Can't remember who I said ,maybe Pujols ,but I was critiqued mightily . Ok Pujols is a stretch I admit that but seriously thought he could and can be a high average and power bat. 6 months ago I suggested Viciedo in right and was also panned . I know he has yet to much of anything but his play in right this spring and continued development with the bats sure does make me smile.

If the Sox get career years from 2 position players, one starter and one reliever , they will win the division. Or if Alexei can hit over .275 in April and May same thing.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 26, 2011 -> 03:39 PM) If you had read my first post, you would have noticed that I said that going to more games doesn't make me a better fan. I was using the argument that someone can be a pessimist and still support the team and be a real fan. Tex (and others) for years have been saying, either in a straight-forward or roundabout way, that being a pessimist makes someone less of a fan. Since being a pessimist is considered by many as being less of a fan, I used the argument that I have acted as a fan at the games much more often than he. It was an equally absurd argument, but I believe it got the point across that someone's fandom can't be questioned by such measures. Of course I read your first post but you also said this "I'm not saying that makes anyone a better fan, which I DO believe is the theme of this thread" . You obviously think Tex is calling you a lesser fan because of what you call his history of posts doing just that. I don't see it that way but as much as I read Soxtalk I don't really remember who fights with who and why . Maybe that was his intent , maybe not. I just took it to mean being so pessimistic won't help you with much of anything be it fandom, relationships , raising children ,work or life in general.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 26, 2011 -> 10:59 AM) Why do you have to be optimistic about everything to enjoy something? One of the biggest draws of baseball is debate. Now with more stats than every, the debates are even more plentiful. It makes it even better IMO. I just don't understand someone thinking another cannot enjoy a baseball season because they don't like who the 5th starter is or who made the roster as the 25th guy. To blindly say everything is great, every move was perfect....isn't that exactly what we rip people who frequent the park on the other side of town for constantly? I guess what I'm saying is I know I don't have to agree with everything KW and JR and Ozzie do, and think every player on the Sox is as good as they say he is to enjoy White Sox baseball. Not by a longshot. I wouldn't be considered a younger fan on this board, maybe on others, but I was a fan in the very lean years. My expectations are a lot higher than they used to be. Its easier now to make the playoffs than ever before, especially in the AL Central and especially with all the built in advantages the White Sox have over their division foes. If they were swapped out with Toronto and sent to the AL East, my expectations would obviously be a lot lower. But 86-76 in the AL Central isn't all that great, its decent, but 36 games against KC and Cleveland waters that down. I never said you had to be optimistic to enjoy it. I'm just thinking in the broader perspective of life. It doesn't always have to be us vs. them, young vs. old etc. To me Tex was just saying enjoy life, enjoy baseball not picking a fight but it seems some people took it in that way. When you have children you don't want to raise them to trust everyone nor do you want them to be a**holes to everyone. I didn't see him as being condescending but the comments he got back showed that some people just like to pick a fight saying "old" and condescending". All he was saying is April is the time to be optimistic and I think we can all agree we like this team. Is it perfect ? No. What team is ? Do we think we have the best lineup or pitching staff in baseball ? No , we can't compete for the best talent in baseball with those teams willing to outspend everyone. Like Hawk says, just sit back relax and strap it down. Healthy debate is fine but a lot of people can't seem to debate without it degenerating into name calling or verbal abuse of some sort.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 26, 2011 -> 09:21 AM) Haha! Bravo, my friend. You know it's not about old vs. young or who is the better fan. If that's what you think then you miss the point entirely and truly do show your immaturity. Is it wrong for a person ,be it an older or younger fan to want his fellow Sox fan to "take it easy" or " stop and smell the roses" ? Sure this is the kind of advice you might hear more often from granpa. It's just advice about enjoying life and meant to be a kind word towards the young and pessimistic. Would you tell your grandfather , who has always been kind to you to go, f*** yourself you condescending old coot" because he wants the best for you ? I hope not , but that's the feedback I'm hearing in here and really there's no need for it.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Mar 24, 2011 -> 03:35 PM) Question: Who is the best player to come out of Cuba? Is it Orlando Hernandez? Jose Contreras? Possibly Champman already? My point is, I'll give the 45 million to a proven hitter to help an offense that was pretty bad last year. The Cuban thing is always nice to dream on, but seriously there has not been that much good to come over from there. I think it's safe to say the very best Cuban players were denied a chance to play in the Majors either by skin color or Castro. But I can name a few who were pretty good that you didn't. Luis Tiant, Mike Cuellar, Jose Canseco, Tony Oliva, Minnie Minoso, Livan Hernandez, Rafael Palmeiro, Bert Campaneris,, Rey Ordonez, Kendry Morales and a few more whose names you might not recognize .There have only been about 166 or so Cuban born players in MLB history. If they all had access to the ML Cuban might produce as many good players as the Dominican Republic. Tony Perez is the only HOF'er and the ones I mentioned were not all born in Cuba . http://www.baseball-reference.com/bio/Cuba_born.shtml

Nice post. That's the way I've always felt. Every player who has looked good during spring training I think can be a star even though in my heart I know White Sox stars are not plentiful.I hope for 18+ wins for all our starters though the likelihood of that happening is closer to 0% than 100%. We all fall prey to negativity, even Tex, who I saw didn't like the way Milledge slightly bailed out on a curve when so many good things were happening during last nights game against the D'backs. The way Lillibridge and Milledge both had good offensive and defensive nights was fun to see. TCQ batting over .500 + power in the last 8 or 9 games also fun to watch.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Mar 25, 2011 -> 09:26 PM) lol, how silly of me to overlook that. Lead me to the mountain so I can scream "Rehabilitated" with all of you. What has he done that's so bad ?

Q bomb

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Mar 25, 2011 -> 09:04 PM) Millions is a punk. Pretending to have a work ethic this spring is nice and all, but I look forward to adding the Soxtalk community to the long list of disappointed, past-believers in this kid. Would a punk give Dunn his number ?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 25, 2011 -> 08:51 PM) Milledge may have just won the battle with that gapper... They're both playing good tonight. Lilli a couple of hits including a HR and SB and I think a diving catch. Milledge. 2 run double and guns a guy out at home. Morel also 2/2 . Got the spring average up to .310.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Mar 25, 2011 -> 07:32 PM) I'm watching online but listening to the radio stream. Did the give the CF an error on Beckham's 3B? Where are you watching online ? I didn't see it listed as being broadcast except on radio according to MLB.com

I wonder if Omar razzes Dunn about having more HR this spring.

I think Dunn goes yard. He's due.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 23, 2011 -> 10:28 PM) Welcome to January! lol. Where is this AJ one? I haven't seen it. EDIT: Seriously. I've googled this and looked for it on the Sox website. Can't find it. I've seen the AJ one quite a bit on Comcast Chicago station but can't recall seeing the other one.

Game over Sox lose 9-5. Ex USA Olympian Gookin Dawkins hit a HR in the 9th for the Sox making him 2/2 this spring, both HR's.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Mar 21, 2011 -> 01:18 PM) What's so wrong about taking your helmet off after hitting a home run? In the world of baseball anything out of the ordinary is frowned upon as hotdogging it. Ken Griffey Jr, went through the same thing because he wore his hat backwards.

Ozzie having fun batting Alexei cleanup.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Mar 22, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) This looks like the sunday lineup. :-/ The Sunday lineup will never look this bad during the season. Milledge and Lillibridge fighting it out for that last spot though the competition at this point isn't even close.

Quentin with a 3/3 night after going 4/4 a few days ago. BA over .320 now. Rios with his 4th HR and 14 RBI and near .300 avg. for the spring. Alexei has cooled off perhaps preparing for his usual slump to start the season.

Quentin will be TCQ again and will be moved to 3rd in the batting order while Dunn gets moved to 5th and becomes the new Soxtalk whipping boy for his K's. Peavy will tear his rotator cuff before the All-star break. Pierre and Beckham both hit .300 giving TCQ, Paulie and Dunn all chances for 100 RBI seasons. Milledge will be the Sox pinch hitter extraordinaire.

Kind of looks like Jerry Reuss to me since Reuss was blonde and now white hair like on the t shirt and a "stache" just like that.