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QUOTE (Soxman72 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 11:32 AM) Does anyone else find it odd that the Sox are not getting any money in return from Arizona? Usually the Sox get money back in a trade and IMO this is a tell that Jackson is going to be move for another player(s). Thoughts? That's why everyone doesn't like the deal. I think we're going to get an outfielder .

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 11:17 AM) Damn I just found it, Viciedo changed his agents from Torres to Boras. Completely missed it. Which is why he'll be gone in the next trade. A bat is coming it will be a very good one.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 04:11 PM) This seems like an entirely different situation. Thome was let go because Ozzie didn't want him clogging the bases the times he didn't strike out or homer. I think the poster is simply stating that Luke Scott mashing Twins' pitching can only be seen as a positive. In no way can it be a bad thing. Nobody advocates signing Scott purely based on this either. It is a positive. There will always be people who argue anything you say. If he was 0-22 and you didn't recommended him . There would be those who say " Get him he's due. " Just like limited sample sizes with how you hit with the bases loaded or 2 outs RISP , you just feel better about it when it's really good as opposed to really bad. Confidence in those situations means a lot.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 12:41 PM) I dunno, it works if you only consider earned runs. I was just looking at Threets game log out of curiousity and happened to notice. Didn't really pay much attention to the original post Well I kind of fudged it. I knew Thornton, Putz , Santos and Jenks were right. Threets has a 0.00 ERA in 7 appearances so I threw it in there . Impressive even if you take out Threets .

Putz 27, Thornton 17, Threets 7, Santos 6, Jenks 2 = 59 scoreless appearances currently going.

Sept 2 2006 was the last time Jenks pitched a perfect save inning with 3 'K. Sergio Santos recorded his sixth consecutive scoreless appearance, Matt Thornton made his 17th consecutive scoreless appearance and J.J. Putz extended his White Sox record to 27 scoreless appearances.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 09:13 AM) This is a perfect analogy of what Jenks has been doing. Jenks was awesome last night. When he had the last hitter at two strikes, I said to my wife, "He's gotta throw the hook." And he did, and that hook was like watching a video of 2005. Sept. 2nd 2006 was the last time Jenks had a 1-2-3 inning with 3 K's.

I am Bobby Jenks Call me a fat ass mofo Watch me K the side

10 in a row and 17 out of 18 at home.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 09:05 PM) SportingNews Don't know if you all saw this. If they want Hudson and Flowers for Dunn, fine with me. Could be KW is ready to pull the trigger on that move if he can find a replacement for Hudson. If he can it's a Dunn deal.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 06:18 PM) nice to see Brennan Boesch coming back to earth. Now if Pavano would re-discover his Yankeeness... Or get caught doctoring the ball.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 12:45 PM) .350 BABIP, unsustainable line drive rate of 29%, lots of fly balls. He's due for a regression and I don't want him on this team when it happens. He would make sense for this team, but I sure wouldn't consider him somebody you'd really like to have. You're a good knowledgeable poster but sometimes I just laugh. At least 75% of you posts have a sabremetric stat in it. I guess I just laugh because there's such a difference in anything you see with the mainstream media ( newspapers and TV) and what you see online from young baseball fans. Tell me something don't most guys with high BA and high OPS usually also have high line drive rates and high BABIP ? And if most do wouldn't they all be due for a regression at some point ? It's as if you rely on these things as some sort of crystal ball.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 06:03 PM) The double-machine is back??? Ryan Rowland-Smith.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 06:05 PM) Why did Beckham go past 2nd base with 2 out? the score i guess Anticipating a play at the plate perhaps but once they missed the 1st cutoff man it wasn't happening.

Donkey Kong !

Alexei is some kind of wonderful these days !

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 06:51 AM) This alone makes it worth it. Get it done, KW! If you think that's good watch this. Ichiro with Bob Costas.

Mr. Teahen , While you were gone we ended up in 1st place with a fantastic run of pitching, timely hitting and pretty good defense. This is not to suggest we don't need you. On the contrary . There is a great position available against RH pitching in the middle of the order . We happily welcome your .820 OPS , .376 OBP, and .289 BA . We don't need you against LH pitching or to play the field very much but your role is still very important. As you know an injury to Mr. Peavy and a few key prospects in the minor leagues limits the organizations ability to acquire an impactful LH bat . So welcome back and do what you do best. Best regards, Kenny Williams

Go Johnny go. Johnny be good !

Good start to the home stand . Nice to beat the King !

Seattle announcer impressed with Ramirez on that.

It really does get much quieter in here when we're winning. Good game .

QUOTE (stevewilliams666 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 06:13 PM) People need to realize if they want the Sox to spend like a big market team, they need to fill the stadium like a big market team. Some of these homestands have been darn right pathetic. 20,000 to 30,000 thousand a night for a first place team is terrible. Go to the damm games and Jerry will spend more money. He showed us that in 2006. I get my ass to at least 20 games a year and I am not rich by any means. That is really it in a nutshell. Everyone is splitting hairs saying there's something wrong or not quite good enough with this that or the other thing. One team wins it all every year. Everyone else goes home so you can split hairs and do that with every team that didn't win the whole enchilada. There's always something to nitpick. Like you hear about 2005 people saying we got lucky that one time with what Kenny did and he won't be able to duplicate it. It's a competitive business with people going after the same things you are. Some things work out well , some don't. C'est la vie. There are haves and have nots in the baseball world without a salary cap. To win a championship at all is amazing to me competing with organizations that outspend you for the best talent in all facets of the game. Thank goodness even spending the most money still doesn't guarantee winning anything. As far as saying I like the way the organization is run now as compared with the past, it just puts things in perspective and truly illustrates how difficult it is to win it all. It's always good discussing the state of the franchise but ultimately it just comes down to nothing is perfect . You do what you can and we as fans can only attend games if we want to see a better product.

QUOTE (Pumpkin Escobar @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 08:59 PM) The problem here is the things you are saying can be applied to anything. What if we just dealt with the fact our system is weak and spent more money in drafts or internationally. Maybe developing a better scouting department for starters. Or drafting guys who normally fall due to their contract size or signability concerns instead of selecting these overly projectable average arms every year. Only time we take risks are for these stupid toolsy outfielders. Apply that sense to some pitchers from time to time and we may end up an ace in the system for a change and not having to deal for them. Something like a guy like Porcello falling past us to the Tigers comes to mind immediately. That ties into another subject which is the whole white sox vs boras nonsense. See Chris Sale. Fact is the Sox currently are trying to fix the farm system stemming from the whole Wilder fiasco.There were teams who passed on him because of signability issues. The Sox capitalized on that by promising the kid he'd get a shot at the majors this year. Now I've seen the Red Sox used as a great example of a team doing it the right way. I've seen no one bring up the fact that the Red Sox are the 2nd richest baseball franchise behind the Yankees. The Sox come in 2nd in a 2 team baseball town. Do the math. The Sox priority is having a team to compete every year under the KW regime. That means a high major league payroll. The reason for that strategy is if the Sox don't put out a winning product there will be no butts in the seats. The fans who clamor for a great minor league system ,no matter their "intelligence " as a fan, are outnumbered by perhaps 5000-1 by actual people who pay to see a winning team. So the minors suffer because of that. We can't overpay for everything which is exactly what the Red Sox do. Our young or semi-young talented players include Danks, Floyd, Quentin, Ramirez ,Thornton (core players), Jenks ,Santos, Viciedo,and Lillibridge have all come by means other than the draft. The first 6 in that group are 2 very good starting pitchers, a near MVP, a SS who is pretty damn good and an All Star reliever and another reliever who made 2 All Star teams and was huge ( no pun intended) in bringing a title to this team. Consider the talent we gave up to get those players .Really not much at all in terms of major league talent. What KW has done to me is quite impressive. I will never underestimate a World Series win or competing nearly every year for a division title for a franchise with a piss poor history. As far as the 2nd bolded part goes, you will drive yourself insane thinking that way. As Caulfield said "hindsight is 20/20". Albert Pujols was drafted in the 13th round. Every team in the majors passed on him 12/13 times. It's a crap shoot. Sure you can improve your odds by putting more cash into it but "can't miss" prospects miss a lot more often than they succeed. High draft choices help and the Sox just haven't been in a position to draft very high thanks to having one of the most successful franchises in baseball in the last 10 years or so. Maybe the Sox should be the model other teams ( other than the Red Sox and Yankees) look to for building a franchise instead of the other way around.

QUOTE (OilCan @ Jul 25, 2010 -> 07:36 AM) This. I would love to see this lineup sometime soon. Pierre LF Beckham 2b Rios CF Konerko 1b Quentin RF Pierzynski C Ramirez SS Vizquel 3b Viciedo DH Not bad but why not put Viciedo after Quentin. He got a pretty good rep in the minors as a clutch hitter. Then follow him up with Ramirez Pierzynski and Vizquel . Or leadoff Vizquel and put Pierre 9th. 3-6 would love to see all power so the pitcher can feel the heat if he hangs one.