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I seem to remember a thread before spring training started about how many soxtalkers loved the "power" arms in the bullpen. I responded with something along the lines about youth and inconsistency and wanting a "proven" arm or 2. Of course I was quickly rebuffed by the people who think this is fantasy baseball where K's count more than being a good pitcher. And of course most relievers are wildly inconsistently from year to year anyway so what good are proven bullpen arms ? This is what you get when you put a bunch of young arms out there. It will be a revolving door between the minors and majors. By the end of the year the ads we see now about having 9 more ring fingers will seem like a cruel joke. I want to be wrong so badly but I will stick with my earlier comparisons to the Florida Marlins. Its just a matter of time before Dye, Crede, Thome and Gooch are sent packing for more youth and we're praying for somebody/anybody from the young pitchers we traded for to step up and do something . This team will be Paulie and the Pups. I 'm looking forward to seeing Fields and Sweeney play unless of course we trade them in a desperate attempt to salvage this season.

HMmm seems to be a rap of some sort. Oh well to each his own. I like the passion and the guts. Thanks for not censoring it mods. It'wll go away soon enough like every thread does.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 23, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) More than what we received. I don't even know how you can argue this, Rock. I have supplied the proof on numerous occasions. If Philadelphia themselves were shocked our asking price was low.....then it obviously was too low. What passes for proof to you is a 3rd party naming Rosenthal quoting an "unnamed" source in the Philly organization in print. So you have to believe some newspaper or internet dude just didnt make the whole thing up or if he got it right that Rosenthal didnt make it up or if Rosenthal got it right that the unnamed source didnt make it up. I would hate for you to be my lawyer if thats your version of proof.

I don't even think its a given that BA wont make the 25 man roster.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 19, 2007 -> 06:02 PM) And homered. I just came back to edit my post to add that. You beat me to it .

Brian played today in the loss to the Royals so me thinks he's fine. He went 1 for 3 .

Realistically Russell will be back in the minors. The 5th starter spot is already muddled enough without adding him to the mix. Like you said he has good stuff and even managed to strike out Ichiro in his prior appearance. He's a big kid, 6' 8 " ,23 yrs old. He throws over the top but Contreras has been working with him on the 3/4 delivery to take advantage of his height against righties. He already feels comfortable with it.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 05:58 PM) The Garcia trade has gotten annoying really fast. Garcia was a salary dump. The White Sox organization was very high on Gio and Floyd, and was not high on Garcia. Floyd can become decent and Gio could become a stud. And one could argue that Garcia lost it last year and his career will go downhill from now on. In 5 years this could become a real steal, or a big blunder by KW. It is just way too early to say the Sox blew this one. Did KW undervalue Freddy and could have possibly gotten more, probably. But this wasn't a terrible trade, from what anyone could tell. And it wasn't an obvious bad trade. A trade that you could tell would be bad right away would be something like Jon Garland for Julio Franco and a crappy 'spect. But the Garcia/Floyd and Gio trade just has too many ifs and buts in it right now for one to conclude it was a bad trade. In the words of the Talking Heads " Stop Making Sense ." It was a bad trade the armchair GM's, fantasy geeks, and the biggest mouths on Soxtalk have spoken.

Gillick is looking for a sucker. Rowand is in his walk year. The stars aligned perfectly for the Sox and Rowand in 05' . That was his career year. He's worth zilch now and maybe less approaching free agency. I wouldn't trade Logan or much of anything for him. It's extremely necessary to show patience with Anderson.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 02:17 PM) Well, they could still be right. I'm just a guy looking at numbers on baseballcube. I'd assume seeing him pitch in person & knowing something about baseball would put the scouts opinions ahead of mine. John Sickels has been pretty optimistic about Floyd as recently as last year. And 5 spring training innings is too soon to say that Floyd won't contribute to the Sox. I'm not optimistic, but it's not like he's been getting shelled so far (like Vazquez, Garland, and Contreras have...). What was that ...humility ?? On this board ? Acknowledging the Sox network of coaches scouts etc. might have more knowledge then fans, statheads, armchair gm's and fantasy geeks is forbidden on this board !

He wants everyone to call him OJ or the Juice .

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 12:46 PM) ARod said today Pinella is like a father to him, I wonder if he makes his way to the Northside after this year. I cant imagine having Soriano and Arods salaries on the same team though. Remember its the other team in Chicago you're talking about where money is no object.

Wizards of Oz

Panic at the Cell

Mr. Anderson

3 pitchers 3 diasters .

Statman u should be employed by the Sox. Love reading anything u write and your blog also.

Thanks Dave ! Looking forward to reading your tape transcription.

Best Damn's Top 50 Devastating Hits 27. Darin Hurt-Stad Anaheim Angels first baseman Darin Erstad played football at the University of Nebraska. Maybe that can explain what happened to Atlanta Braves catcher Johnny Estrada on June 6, 2005. Erstad was trying to beat out a throw at home and decided the best way to get there would be to tackle Estrada. After the tackle, Erstad slapped his hand on home plate and was called safe. Estrada lay on the ground for a few minutes, and eventually sent to the DL. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 19, 2007 -> 01:55 PM) I just watched those and I must admit, I had no idea Eduardo Perez was American. Son of Tony Perez of Big Red Machine fame, grew up in the states .

I applaud your efforts. Prepare to be ridiculed !

This should help . http://www.calendars.com/results.asp?TID={...-1&format2= Maybe it won't help I don't think it's a schedule just a Sox Calendar. Search around google.

Welcome back kid now grab your glove and head out to short.

A piece of White Sox history is gone and will be missed. RIP Ray and I hope you enjoyed the World Series in 05 .

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Feb 1, 2007 -> 07:22 AM) I finally got in the running for award, although somehow it was for the pessimistic award, il take what i can get i even voted for myself I'm in the same category though I know I won't win it. Wait a second ... that was pessimisstic wasn't it ? I do deserve it after all !

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Feb 1, 2007 -> 12:21 AM) I'm nominaed for "Most eloquent poster who can right good." How did that happen? Anyway, whoever nominated me, I appreciate the thought and gesture. Same to those who've voted for me thus far and whoever will in the near future. If i culda ben numinatid 4 ne a ward i waz hoppin it wood b dat 1 !