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QUOTE(YASNY @ May 26, 2005 -> 12:52 AM) I turned 10 in Novenber of that year, but I can say for sure that I was a Sox fan as far back as 1964. Probably even earlier, but I can't remember any particular thing that I can pinpoint as earlier that has to do with baseball or the Sox. And I turned 10 in December of 67' . Favorite players Ken Berry and Joel Horlen. But I'd vote for Frank as best though his HOF election because of DH ing is not guaranteed. Last week I hear Rex Hudler (Angel's color man ) ask Steve Physioc (Angels PBP man ) if he thought Frank belongs in the HOF and his answer was "not yet . " I really don't know what else Frank can do to convince some of these people except get 500 HR. His credentials already should make him a lock.

Aboz wouldnt be an admin. here if he wasn't a damn good Sox fan. I love Frank and I'll admit I've called him the Big Skirt a few times. I got all kinds of his baseball cards , statues , toys, and magazines with him on the cover. I just wish he'd run over the catcher once in a while as big as he is. I've seen a lot of weak slides into the plate by Frank and get frustrated. But I'm like a little kid now that he's back and hope he can do a great job. I will no longer wish for him to crush a catcher because of all his injuries.

The Angels routed KC today. McPherson's bat has blossomed since he hit that HR off Contreras (actually the triple of the previous day.) Let's hope home sweet home is just that.

QUOTE(whitesoxjr27 @ May 29, 2005 -> 07:38 PM) dam. your on a roll with the great posts today. Thanks. I'm having fun. . Have you read the "let's face it " thread ? We're going at it in their too. Reminds me of arguing with my older brother when I was a kid. Damn I hope it isnt him. He's a lawyer now and he hates it when I tell him that all the arguments with me led to his choosing barristerdom as a profession.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 07:29 PM) Yeah, so what. He was also the greatest newspaper columnist ever. Over Breslin, Mencken, Runyan, all of them. I'd give up ten years of my life for greatness in my field. So he smoked, drank, and started bar fights. Big deal. I'm no expert on what it takes to achieve greatness in any field, however, I am fairly certain that the main ingredients are hard work and ambition. Ambition can be a good or bad road depending on what you do to achieve your goals. You don't seem to be the ass kissing type. Maybe a little more humility and a little less "why can't everyone be as smart as I am " attitude will help you achieve your "greatness". If you show only one side to you're personality, how can you be understood ? Good luck and I sincerely hope that the road to greatness is not the road to ruin.

QUOTE(JimH @ May 29, 2005 -> 07:19 PM) Kind of a broad brush generalization, wouldn't you say? After a few days of being here you peg a guy as an eternal optimist? I've read his (Cali) posts for a while ... he's pretty balanced ... not too optimistic or pessimistic. Did Royko have a quote for people who are pretty balanced? And we're all anxious to hear your assessments of our demeanor - that must be some sensory computer you've got there, LOL. Thanks Jim. If I have to characterize myself I'd say I am more of the glass is half full type of guy while I realize it is still half empty. Guess that's balanced. Arguing back and forth is certainly not my forte. I'm more the stay silent and be thought a fool then speak and remove all doubt type. I'd much rather approach things with humor then venom. As they say "it's easier to catch a fly with sugar than vinegar." Thats enough tired cliches for one post. To tell the truth I was kind of fed up with all the negativity and actually have enjoyed the afternoon bickering back and forth in 2 different threads with Kong (I-Hate- Crede). I have to admit he is my intellectual superior. Maybe no one thought it was funny or could follow it but the last few pages of todays game thread combined with this thread will make everything more clear.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 07:09 PM) Love is not forthcoming. You seem like an eternal optimist in regards to the Sox. I'll leave you with this quote from Mike Royko, whom you may or may not have forgotten about on the West Coast. "Show me somebody who is always smiling, always cheerful, always optimistic, and I will show you somebody who hasn't the faintest idea what the heck is really going on." I'm not an eternal optimist nor am I an eternal pessimist. Since no love is forthcoming it appears you are the latter. Funny how you should mention Royko as my old signature had a quote from him in it. Something about switching his allegiance to being a Sox fan. It goes sumthing like this "I'd rather have an owner with a wooden leg (Bill Veeck) then a left -fielder with a wooden head (Dave Kingman). Maybe I'll call you Kingman or would you prefer Kong ?

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 06:24 PM) Maybe I'll just flee to california. I'm still waiting for the love. Are you always so frustrated ?

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 05:59 PM) I suppose you can interpret my comments anyway you wish. Someone skilled in logical analysis would recognize the analogy, though. You seem decently well read, judging by your responses. I wouldn't think my attitude would affect this. I am usually skeptical of those who fly off the handle at the mere mention of certain "taboo" subjects, like war, or god, or sex. The "how can you compare this to......" crowd. These people are prone to low IQ's and shallow thought. This doesn't seem to apply to you, so your reaction was a suprise. "Rooting for a professional sports team is totally severed from rational behavior. Trying to have a reasoned discourse on such behavior , by extrapolation, is also irrational." Does this quote ring a bell? Put that in your intellectually superior, low I.Q. and shallow thought pipe and smoke it.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 02:42 PM) Rooting closely for a professional sports team is totally severed from rational behavior. Trying to have a reasoned discourse on such behavior, by extrapolation, is also irrational. I would much prefer venting my frustration. Good idea why dont you go to a game ,jump out of the stands, attack Joe Crede and break his legs.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 29, 2005 -> 05:48 PM) I know the sky isn't falling but I don't recall recent World Series teams with over half the lineup under .245 It's a major concern but we're nowhere near the World Series yet. Let's see how we do once Frank starts playing near full time. If we still need some pieces KW will fill the holes.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) Pal, you completely misunderstood my comment on war protesting. No reasonable reading of my analogy could produce your interpretation. The point I was making was that you can, in fact, criticize and love something at the same time. People who call war protestors unpatriotic are as miss guided as you were suggesting I don't like the Sox because I bash them when they lose. Show me the love and I'll change my interpretation.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 29, 2005 -> 04:59 PM) Never = 3/13 Owned !!! (it better be true)

Save it for your fantasy leagues all you pocket GM's. I'm not even gonna pretend I know players and contracts well enough to do this. Ignorance is bliss.

QUOTE(whitesoxjr27 @ May 29, 2005 -> 05:06 PM) the venting around here is crazy. some people cant get over it. thats why i read and dont post alot. like i always say. relax enjoy this team and see what happens. cant get mad at a baseball game you have no control of the out come of the game. i dont like them losing but theres nothing i can do about it. Your attitude is a lot like mine. I'm a huge Sox fan but I've learned over the years to just let it go. If i wanted to be a GM I'd play fantasy baseball. I'd like to see what some of the GM's on this site are doing in their fantasy baseball leagues and let us all jump all over them about what a s***ty team they have and what a piss poor job some of their players are doing.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 29, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) If I didn't know we were in first and ran across this board, I'd swear the Sox were in last. Better stop all that "glass is half full" talk before your "cool admin by teens" moniker is revoked.

QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ May 29, 2005 -> 04:45 PM) Blood, sweat, & tears. And a little cat-fighting along the way. LOL yea some catfighting for sure. During a losing skid I've been pretty quiet. Guess I was taught if you don't have anything nice to say dont say anything at all. Outdated concept I know. Soxtalk would be pretty boring if everyone applied that rule. I finally broke down and vented against the venters. Seems as it many of us have reached the boiling point with the recent skid of .500 ball.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 04:17 PM) I didn't know people were so sensitive. Perhaps this website should come equiped with kleenex so folks can wipe away their tears when their feelings are hurt. You probably label war protestors as "fair weather" patriots. An equally ignorant arguement. I'm not at all sensitive but if I was is that a bad thing? Could be you're a masochist and enjoyed kicking people or teams when they're down. Maybe it was "cathartic" for John Gacy to kill people. If you love the Sox you're not very adept at showing it. I'd hate to be your dog , g/f ,wife, kid, friend etc. I'd rather hand someone a kleenex then hurt their feelings in the first place. And comparing war to baseball is utterly idiotic . I see in the 10 Commandments "thou shall not kill" but must've missed the part about whine like a lil girl when my favorite baseball team is playing poorly. Here's a kleenex.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 03:49 PM) As for Crede, the man has had his chance. Play time is over and its time for the Sox to move on. He's a sub .240 hitter. For a power position this is not good. If he played the outfield we'd call him Joe Borchard. Moreover, I'm new here and unaware of protocol or unwritten rules for posting, but I think speaking your mind is important. Even if you're mind is filled with negative thoughts pertaining to the Sox offense. Candor can even be cathartic after the disaster in Texas. Do you really need to be aware of protocol or unwritten rules of posting in order to be decent to people ? Maybe its cool to be hateful and I'm just an old fart. I'll reserve my opinion until I see something positive from you if you're at all capable of that. It's so easy to be up when we win and down when we lose. Do the phrases fair weather fan or jumping on and off the bandwagon mean anything to you ? Enjoy you're catharsis but I for one don't need it. On to the next game and hope for the best .If it doesnt go well all the whining in the world won't fix it.

QUOTE(jerseysox @ May 29, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) let's get off this guy. considering this thread was over the top negative from start to finish, i don't think senor crede's posts were that bad. i think he meant the hitman comment in jest. as long as he wants konerko at the all-star game, i'll give him some time to get his feet under him lol Calling sumone a putz is bad though I've seen worse. Most of the new posters seem to be really negative along with some of the major posters (jabroni ). Maybe I'm just to used to losing but in reality a baseball season has an ebb and flow that requires patience when things are going badly. Since the Sox are still in 1st place I'm pretty happy with the season so far. Frank , Gload and El Duque are returning soon so the team should improve. Yes I know the hitting sucks but all the whining comments outweigh the positves by a longshot. Maybe thats because we all have been given a ray of hope for once and hope to God they aren't dashed as in seasons past. I don't think I look at things through rose colored glasses or wear White Sox blinders. Maybe I'm just looking for a little more respect from everyone. When there is little consesquence to acting like a juvenile deliquent the inmates will rule the prison and the lunatics will run the asylum.

QUOTE(I-HATE-CREDE @ May 29, 2005 -> 02:44 PM) I'm not loading the gun either......I'm tightening the noose. Are you really a White Sox fan or just join the website to screw with us ? You seem reasonably intelligent , good vocabulary, grammar , etc. Does your whole mood depend entirely on White Sox baseball ? Why the name calling ? Usually a new member with get a warm welcome because we all love the Sox but you seem intent on acting like a jackass. Your whole attitude is negative from your screen name to all your comments. Go beat your dog or something because you will need to do something once you get booted from here.

QUOTE(sayitanitso @ May 29, 2005 -> 10:26 AM) And i do realize i spelled Huff's name wrong. :banghead Is there any way i can fix it or will it just have to stay like that. I feel like a complete dumbass. You also spelled your screen name wrong .say it aint so

On the fun side of things , it was fun listening to Blackjack singing during the rain delay on MLB.tv.

Game today officially postponed. Doubleheader in August.

QUOTE(YASNY @ May 25, 2005 -> 02:14 AM) I disagree about Iguchi. You have to remember that the Japanese baseball season is not as long as MLB, plus the extreme difference in travel amounts here. Add to that the fact that he's constantly making adjustments to new ballparks, new pitchers, new circumstances. That kind of stuff can wear a player down physically and mentally over the long hual. Ozzie is trying to keep fresh and keep him sharp. You have to think about all those games we still have vs. Minnesota late in the year. We want a still effective Iguchi for those games. Ozzie has to think about more than just today's game as he's managing this team. As usual you are the voice of reason Yas. ( Do you know how much I hate that ? ) You can sure tell the graybeards on Soxtalk , patient , used to the ebb and flow of the season. No panic in you, just fatherly reassurance.