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Reinsdorf and Stewart are both frauds. This isn't even a story.Both represent groups wanting welfare from the state paid for by the working man who is getting hit from all sides with inflation and reduced job benefits. Blood sucking leeches.

Watching he CHSn feed here in Cali. Start of 2nd. 1-1. Will be surprised if Hawks can beat the Flames. Foligno tipped in a Seth Jones shot.

Well having the worst season seems to have empowered you to feel right about many things. But you never sway very far from the majority opinion which always guarantees more people will think you're right than wrong.You play it pretty safe. That 121 loss team indicts mostly those who have had the most power in creating it over time. That's a very high percentage on JR. Getz has barely started. There's time to blame him down the line even though not recognizing the puppet from the puppet master seems to be willful blindness to ensure you win whatever office you seem to be running for on Soxtalk.

Actually it was the Sox who turned him around when he finally decided to trust his coaches. The problem was it was only his last 5 appearance with the Sox which was roughly only a week and a half before the TDL .

I commend that you'll wait to see how all parties involved turn out but from the very start that trade looked lopsided. Fedde had proven the changes he made in Korea were legit .He has a solid big strong body, and ptched extremely well for the Sox and had the extra year of control. Vargas was on a downward spiral with the Dodgers .He could put up great AAA numbers but he had no position to play and had yet to figure out MLB pitching. Fedde may very well be a 5 WAR starting pitcher for the Cards next year. All he has to do is have a 2025 as good ashis 2024. At the time of the trade he was more valuale to the Cards than Tommy Edman was who hadn't played all year. No one's pretending Kopech is a Cy Young finalist but as far as I know the Dodgers did nothing to fix him unless someone can find something specific that I couldn't. The fact is in his last 5 appearances with the Sox he pitched 5.2 innings 0 R, 1 hit 1BB and 8K after he finally started to trust his coaches. He just continued doing with the Dodgers what he had with the Sox . 24 G, 24 IP, 9 H ,3 ER, 29 K, 10 BB 1.13 ERA , 4-0 Record, 6 Saves , .792 WHIP and thats with a walk rate of 3.8 per 9 IP which is still a bit too high. But over his last 29.2 innings he may have been the most valuable RP in baseball. It's not like he had lost his stuff but he had lost his way. He was stuck between the pitcher he wanted to be and the pitcher he could be and it took him a while to trust a lesser vision of himself in his mind and accept his new role as a RP and how best to approach that role. The Dodgers were 19 -5 in games that Kopech pitched. Someone of the 3 guys the Sox got has to become a productive MLB player. It would be nice if it was Vargas but he couldn't have been any worse than he was with the Sox with a -1.0 bWAR in 42 games. Kopech gave the Dodgers 1.0 bWAR in his 24 games and and a dominant late innings presence. The trade from the very beginning felt 1decent prospect short or a better headliner short. We got something you might be able to squint at and eek out a MLB player somewhere down the road for productive MLB talent.

Rewarded ? Baseball created this mess with less than 2 handfuls of owners willing to bid on the top free agents and creating a system among the owners and players of the ultra rich and where ever everyone else falls after that. The Orioles finally did some good drafting and, development to get to the top but so far they lack a way to finish it off. The Astros decided to spend a bit and not only finished it off but cheated their way to the top and stayed there for quite a while. They weren't punished until after they won a World Series. Tampa Bay despite great effort to work far below the payrolls of just about every team and still succeed cannot reward their fans with a Word Series win so far or keep their good players . While spending great deals of money doesn't guarantee rings on a consistent basis it usually keeps you in the playoffs. All of a sudden after years of the worse teams getting top draft picks now MLB decides they were wrong all along and it was a bad thing for rebuilding teams to win once in a while. It only took a rebuild for the Sox to make the playoffs 2 years in a row for the 1st time in franchise history before they sunk lower than any other non expansion team in baseball history with years of losing ahead and they need the league to spank them as if their own foibles aren't bad enough or picking higher guarantees championships when we know it doesnt. Incompetence and stagnation is it's own punishment.For ove For over 125 years the Sox didn't need MLBs help to continue being losers. But sure pour salt into the gaping wound . Fucking sadists .

Highly doubt it. It was a stupid rule to begin with. The highest pick the Sox got during the rebuild was 3rd I think and that was Vaughn.Its not like their draft picks helped them at all like some of the Astros picks did. But the CBA didnt want teams celebrating mediocrity with hoardes of high picks as if picking talent was as easy as the football and basketball drafts. I understand creating more interest with a lottery but bad teams are punished enough with years and years of bad baseball without collectively bargaining in more embarassment. Can you imagine in any other sport where a team as bad as the Sox has a league rule preventing them from having a top 10 pick just because they are so bad multiple years in a row ? It's asinine. Imagine if there was some disaster like a plane crash and a team being punished like that. What's happened to the Sox franchise is kind of like that. It takes a lot of bad luck and bad ownership to trash a franchise so thoroughly after the first rebuild had to deal with multiple years of a worldwide disease and labor strife as if their incompetence needed any help to be worse than it already was.

Wild game.Looks lke the Dogs won 15-13.

Bertuzzi hit the post with Mrazek on the bench and Utah scores an empty net goal then with Mrazek back in net Utah got another one to make the final 5-2.

Early pressure in the 3rd by Utah. Marasek keeping Hawks in it. Hawks clean face off win in Utah zone Vlasic slapper tipped in front by Foligno to make it 3-2. Bedard with hte secondary assist. Games got some pace to it now. Bedard tried a Michigan ,no luck. It's a game now.

5 minutes of the 2nd Taylor Hall and Kurasheve applied some pressure got somegood scoring chances , hit 3 posts but no goals . Hawks also had 3 power plays but they were all pitiful. Bedard did set up Teravainen with a nice little rush getting aound a weak attempt by Sergechev to hip check him for the Hawks only goal. Utah up 3-1. But Utah controls the puck 5 on 5 better than the Hawks powerplay.

Bill Murray had a really good game when Jenkins went out. Just has to be maintained against better opponents . But he had good run and pass blocking scores and no penalties and there was 1 play he was double teamin a guy with Shelton , left him to help Jones and flattened Jones guy then went back upfield a bit and smacked another guya and knocked him back too. Some said he had a triple pancake on that play .

Surprised the lack of Blackhawks interest on the board . Shouldn't there be a 24/25 NHL thread now . Pitiful start afte 1 Hawks had 1 shot on goal and none in the last 19 minutes . Utah up 2-0 and hit 2 posts. Hawk no skating , turnovers and stupid icings. Can't barely get it through the neutral zone most of the time. Maybe they show better in the 2nd.

Just watched Tatis hit that 2 run HR to make it 6-1 after 2. Then Dodgers follow it up with a Teoscar granny and reading Michael King's lips afterwards saying "f*** me". Hard to leave this game but want to catch the Hawks opener. On a side note. I watch Tatis and wonder if he had turned into the same player with the Sox how different things might be. Sox finally get a DR star which couldve opened the door to more ( I can dream). Might've been a much different rebuild if they already had a budding superstar when Eloy, Moncada and,Robert came aboard competing with Tatis to be the man.

You were right on it . And you had fun at some games .👍

You win !!

Didn't Mazara play in MLB when he was 20 ?

Burke had a couple really good starts. Position players thin but Vargas, Baldwin ,Ramos.

I don't think Sosa qualifies as a debut player.His debut was in 2022. I think that's what the OP meant by debut players. This years new guys.

Of course not.They were spinning their wheels. But I didn't expect it to work with all my heart. I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but I saw all the flaws that led to the collapse this time because they were the same flaws that plagued the organization for years. No commitment to developing youth , no comittment to DR players internationally, midlevels Free agent signing that were as likely to succeed as fail , just no comittment at all to infrastruture. The best thing our former poster Jack Parkman used to say was "pick a lane" either go the TB route and put more money into hiring quality people to create a good foundation because it's ultimately cheaper to maintain that every year once you get it established or stop trying to pretend you're actually interested in anything but keeping the fans coming in by always dangling the carrot. That argument was always out there as you were putting the same people involved in mired in mediocrity in charge of the rebuild that ultimately expired due to a mediocre effort to win.

If CHSN want more OTA viewership they should just make a deal with some indoor antenna maker buy a bunch of antennas and make house calls to anyone who wants CHSN and charge people $100 to come to their home and show people how to set it up and set it up for them. If they can't get the channel to come in clearly then no charge for the house call. Try to do as many as you can in areas you know should get strong signals. Just have people answer a few prelimary questions 1st about the make and model of their TV. Hire temps who live in different areas to install in those areas. Or you can do it without CHSN buying the antennas as long as people say they have the own antenna . Silly idea I know but it might take some salesmanship to show people it's not all that complex to watch the Bulls, Blackhawks and Sox for free. You create a few temp jobs that get a bonus perhaps for every house they do. It pays off when you have more sponsors buying airtime during games because you have better ratings from the house calls you made. You make sure each of your salesman people / technicians have business cards and spread the word to other fans. Maybe you make a commercial for local TV advertising "Do you want to watch the Bulls, Hawks and Sox on free TV but don't know how ? Call CHSN the new home of Bulls , Blackhawk and White Sox Television and answer some questions about your TV and make an appointment to have one of our reps contact you .

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Wondering how many here didn't know Harry Chappas was a Sox player . Anyway RIP to Harry Chappas.

It was done the other day on a CHGO Sox podcast with Sean Anderson moderating and Herb Lawrence and Vinnie Duber had 15 minutes to get all 63.They came close with hints from Anderson while the clock was winding down .

Ad infinitum. Oh no the process was bad on Mena for Fletcher a trade that no one has actually won yet. Oh yes Burger for Eder was a great process and I will do that trade all day everyday no matter how lopsided it looks against the Sox right now. I like players who don't leave it up to the coaches to try to improve. I'll take a guy like Burger walking around with a tablet in his hand looking for ways to get better himself any day. Ohtani does the same thing. He isn't even in the upper 25% when it comes to sprint speed yet he put his meticulous mind to it and figured out how to steal over 50 bases by studying pitchers and looking for tells on pickoff moves. He slides the same way into a base every time, the right way, feet first directly into the base , foot parallel to the ground, popping up securely and gracefully . Player development starts with the attitude of the player but you better have enough coaches and analytics people who work tirelessly on the same page who can explore multiple ways to achieve a higher level of play offensively, defensively ,on the mound and on the bases. Coaches need to seek out development wins in other organizations and study how it happened. Usually it starts with the players desire to be the best he can be.