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Sox looking for LH OF, LH 2B, and SP
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Before we heard about the supposed payroll cut, Benintendi seemed like the most obvious pursuit of an OF FA. Then I decided if JR was going cheap to switch my focus to pitching and defense with OFers way cheaper but with MLB ready, athletic, skillful profiles. -
Sox looking for LH OF, LH 2B, and SP
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Sleep deprivation is not a good thing for anyone around you or yourself. -
Sox looking for LH OF, LH 2B, and SP
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
That's how I've been approaching it , pitching and the OF, speed , defense, power, LH, younger. Operate on the margins to improve the team. We already have the new manager and coaches. Grifol is preaching energy. He saw that in Cleveland with a bunch of hungry young talented players with a strong pitching staff. They gave the Yankees a good run. They have a great manager. -
Sox looking for LH OF, LH 2B, and SP
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I never mentioned Wong. -
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Wrong again . Stone Garrett and Outman.
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Neither are Engel or Cespedes. What now every acquisition no matter how minor even for depth purposes has to be LH ?
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Correct poor hit tool but had plus WAR because of his power and defense. Depth piece. Highlight reel type arm. Outman also has a 60 rated arm . Colas not sure . Gotta be 55- 60. Had around 10 HRs in 250 ABs, About an equal rate to Bellinger . Working in the margins here.
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Aquino is like the 3rd guy I mentioned for OF depth. Arestides Aquino. I know you must remember him from 2019 . He broke records for the most amount of HRs to start a career and has a gun in RF. All I'm saying is that the OF depth is so poor that even Aquino is a better depth piece than Cespedes ATM.
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Outman and perhaps Garrett. No one can say with 100 % accuracy how all 3 of them are going to turn out. All we know right now is that all three are good defenders and hit for power. Outman and Garrett had full AAA very good AAA seasons while Colas worked his way from A+ to AAA. Garrett and Outman had small samples of success in the Majors while Colas has yet to make his debut.
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That's where I've been trying to help the team , on the margins by adding depth to the OF that is better than any other OFer we have besides Colas and they are possibly his equal.
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I emailed the Sox fan feedback yesterday and put attention Rick Hahn so I'll let you know. Wasn't sure where to find a reliable email address for him so I just looked under " other" and I gotta. Email address for fan feedback from a page listing all current Sox executives.
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2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don't think so. Sure, I guess ,if the only OF you want to get are guys you can't afford. 1. To be a playoff team again the Sox need more health, better defense, more speed and power and to trade money to spend money. You say reset but you're talking another rebuild in the time we were supposed to be competing for championships for 10 years . While the position players core has sucked , the pitching hasn't. Lynn was good until he got hurt. Giolito got Cy Young votes for 3 years, Cease 2nd place finish this year. Rodon had one great 60- 70 % season and promptly dumped. Keuchel in the short season was worthy of Cy Young votes. Kopech still has promise. Cueto came in when Lynn got hurt. Problem is the Sox pitching goodness has too spread out and inconsistent. If the Sox can get some health luck and finally put players when they belong improvement on the fringes specially defense and speed can actually be a huge boost to the Sox and the only way to do that is identify fast young defensive MLB ready talent with offensive upside. I find it odd that you think it's spent money or rebuild yet when I suggest MLB ready talent in their mid 20s with speed , defense and big power that would help the Sox on the fringes and also be the types u look for in a rebuild you generally crap on the idea. Nothing great is going to happen with this team unless quite a few guys we already have step up. If they do ,I'd really like having, mid 20s MLB ready speed and defense in OF to help the pitching staff and energize the team and fans . I think Grifol is looking for the same thing . -
Sox looking for LH OF, LH 2B, and SP
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I know my proposals for the OF haven't been well received but I am at least working under current perceived financial parameters and keeping needs in mind, namely, team speed, defense , power, LHness, youth,depth energy , SP and the future. The situation is what it is. More than one decent FA is a dream and it should be a SP. -
Sox looking for LH OF, LH 2B, and SP
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I think they can trade one and that's Hendriks. He's a great guy and with his wife are very generous working with charities. Would be a big loss but it's just one hole every couple of games that Lopez could probably fill. Trickle down effect would weaken the pen but more appropriate spending on the BP pieces has to happen. -
Rumor: White Sox made offer for Max Kepler
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Balta1701's topic in Pale Hose Talk
That's what I've been doing but no one seems to like taking on other teams rejects. I'd happily take speed, defense, power and the energy in the OF . No one can say the Sox don't need all those things badly. -
Rumor: White Sox made offer for Max Kepler
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to Balta1701's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Mediocre is being kind. -
MLB.com proposes worst Sox trade I’ve seen yet
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to bmags's topic in Pale Hose Talk
That's why I liked that you also were interested in Outman. Only I think a bigger infusion of fast , good defensive young hungry players would give them the energy infusion they need without an old, downside of his career, dickhead. The Sox lacked energy because TLR didn't provide any and they had slow outfielders incapable of making plays or throwing out guys on bases. Crisp defense always fires up teams and fans along with good base running by speedy players. Remember Billy Hamilton in 2021? The fans loved him and he brought energy because despite his lack of hitting talent he was dynamic in the OF and as a runner. -
Colas and Outman are both LH OF so essentially you're agreeing with me and my post did also say Eloy to DH.
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Why is letting talented kids play punting ? I've been recommending it a lot as you know. The position player core has been a disaster. JR disaster, Hahn disaster, TLR disaster, defense disaster, power disaster, team speed and base running disaster. You can't fix everything wrong with this team this off-season unless the core all play where they are supposed to, stay healthy and rebound from poor seasons to get at least 2 WAR out of some of them and higher from others. Need some career years from guys who haven't had career years yet like Eloy, Robert. Vaughn , Kopech. Need bouncebacks from Moncada, Grandal , Giolito and Anderson. Kelly has to be way better. Lopez may have to be a closer in order to get some money. They need playoff quality depth at starting pitching. Why the heck do you think I've been recommending AAA OFers with high upside offensive but already good defensive skills and speed. Like it or not the Sox need to get better on the little things that mean a lot defense ,speed, youth. Maybe you've enjoyed Hahn repeatedly doing the high mileage high cost veteran flop every trade he makes while letting young guys go. That's worked wonders hasn't it ? Put in a old manager hired by the old owner, get old players and play guys out of position and you get a team that looks old and slow with the health of old folks. Now all we hear are names like Gallo , Bellringer and others who best years are behind them. Wake up !! The team needs some youthful energy. Energy has been a key word when Grifol talks about how they played last year.
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$14M is absurd too for the White Sox. The Sox need a starting pitcher more than anything. They have young infielders ready to step in at 2nd base. Now they need dynamic MLB ready OFs so Eloy can be a fixture at DH, Grandal can catch, Vaughn can play 1st. Sheets , Burger, Yolbert, Cespedes to name a few can be traded. I've been mentioning guys far more advanced as hitters than Yoelki and just as good defensively. If people here aren't even sure Colas is ready why would anyone entertain Cespedes . It was truly amazing what Colas did last year if you take into account how little competitive baseball he's played in the last 2 years and culture hopped from Cuba to Japan and then the States. Outman and Garrett both hit well to very well in their small MLB chances and what they both did at AAA would put Cespedes to shame and far behind both Garrett and Outman as well as Colas. If you throw Aquino in the mix he'd be behind him too. This is called depth defensively with all of them with just as much if not more pop than Sheets .
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2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread
CaliSoxFanViaSWside replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
A lot of things have to go right to make the Sox capable of winning the division but my whole point of going after young OFers and playing Colas is mainly to improve OF defense and speed. Some strong 2+ WAR seasons can be built mainly on defense with speed and strong armed OFs . We all witnessed Eaton's high WAR year when he was piling up assists. Colas, Outman, Acquino all have rifles. Not sure about Garrett's arm. Outman and Garrett have good speed. Colas has enough speed to play CF fine as does Outman and Garrett. It would be an improvement on the fringes just to start with a long with depth and versatility. If one breaks out and gives you the power they all possess now you really have something . If 2 do well enough offensively it's huge. Now you have a good offensive and defensive OF with speed on the basepaths. The only area I'm subtracting from is Hendricks from the BP. We become a more attractive team to pitchers with better OF defense. We'll still be depending on the core for health and production but any scenario that has the Sox improving to 90+ wins is going to need that anyway. Last year was bad defense, poor health, bad base running, slow players,poor power, bad FO , bad manager and poor seasons and the Sox still played . 500. I know many dislike the idea of relying on acquiring unproven mid 20s OFs but they have the skills to help in areas that need fixing at the very least, speed, defense, depth, and OF versatility so Leury doesn't get shoved into a prominent role in the OF at any point and with a shot at some LH savagery. And they are all MLB ready. Trading Hendricks will free up some money to throw at the pitching staff. So I do agree that the rest of them aren't worth trading now. We've rode them this far out of position and unhealthy and just plain bad. Perhaps if they are surrounded by some youthful energy with guys thrilled to be given a shot it can rub off. It helps tremendously having players making plays . It brings a level of excitement to the team when you have athletic guys making great catches throwing out base runners and stealing bases. This is what the new rules are encouraging. Why not infuse the team with those types of OFers who also happen to have quick bats and power too. It would be a much different exciting team instead of the plodding defensive mess we've been seeing in the OF and on the bases. -
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From MLB Pipeline late season 2022 James Outman OF, Los Angeles Dodgers James Outman. AGE 25 BATS L DOB 05/14/1997 THROWS R HT 6' 3" DRAFTED 2018, 7th (224) - LAD WT 215 ETA 2022 Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 60 | Overall: 50 Though Outman batted just .249 in three seasons at Sacramento State, the Dodgers bought into his intriguing all-around tools and selected him in the seventh round of the 2018 Draft. He began to break out with 11 homers in the final month of the 2019 season in Low-A and took another step forward in the second half of 2021, batting .297/.392/.568 while advancing to Double-A. He built on that momentum in the Arizona Fall League and claimed a spot on the 40-man roster. Outman began to perform better at the plate as he gained a better understanding of his left-handed swing. He still aggressively looks to launch balls to his pull side, but slowing things down enabled him to chase fewer pitches out of the zone and access his plus raw power more consistently. He still strikes out too much to post high batting averages, though he compensates by drawing plenty of walks and hit by pitches. One of the best athletes in the system, Outman is a 6-foot-3, 215-pounder with plus speed and arm strength. He has aptitude for stealing bases and swiped 23 in 27 attempts last season. He has instincts to go with his quickness in center field and provides plus defense at any of the three outfield spots.