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Well JC K's the side and says do not underestimate the power of The Horse !

Ok just clarifying for those who might not have understood what you meant ? Thank u !

That means not expected to pitch again until after the ASB right ?

This is also true.

Really ? Did he volunteer and Tony said you betcha ?

Going for the TLR emoji's ?

Thanks JC. Have a seat , you're done !

Ha yea sure. Pick up Rodon from the scrap reap , he shows he's one of the best in baseball at age 28 but predictably after 2 yrs off couldn't finish the season. So also predictably the Sox decided to let the rest of baseball have shot at him without compensating them. But go ahead give 37 yr old Cueto $10M+ next yr.

La Panteraaaaa !!

If we can get Polanco here we win lol

Luck be a lady tonight !

Our best hitter comes through !

That's a more meaningful stat if you include the inning pitched in that info. I guarantee Dylan is last without looking it up among the RHP's. McClanahan could have less innings than Dylan is the only one of the 7 listed .

The Sox just don't match up well with the Twins. They can throw 6 LHB against out mostly RH pitching staff and they have a mostly RH pitching staff to stifle our mostly RH lineup. They're like a better version of the Guardians. Sox could put McGuire, Leury , Sheets and Moncada out there who hit LH but all 4 of those guys don't scare anyone. Sheets and Moncada both need to have a really good 4 games against them to have a chance at doing more than splitting the series.

Well Ivy League GM's were "en voque" so that's not surprising and the Kellogg MBA sure didn't hurt . But I'm not sure of your point. He didn't have G.M. experience and that has reared it's ugly head during his tenure. I realize he might be working with one hand tied behind his back so to speak, but he hasn't made good use of the one free hand either. You can still pick up a ball with one hand but he's dropped the ball too much for most of our liking. When dealing with other GM's perhaps you need quite a bit of the old fashioned horse trader mentality.

Right I realize that how you feel about a player will influence opinions. I am no great fan of how he's played since he came back from injury but that's just how things go sometimes after time off It may or may not has anything to do with his personal life. For all we know maybe he's been doing that sort of thing forever . Wouldn't be the 1st guy busted for infidelity. Lot's of guys are driven more by the little head than the head with the brain in it. Since I consider myself more as a fan analyst I strive to look at each play in a pure baseball vacuum. Some people might say Tim distracts the hitter with his bouncing around 2nd base stuff whereas I say a player good with speed has to be on his toes all the time and that bouncing is designed to distract pitchers from making a good pitch if they pay too much attention to him. Ricky Henderson did this sort of thing all the time. Runners on 2nd base are always moving around checking fielder walking back and forth. The hitter's job is to focus on the pitchers, follow the pitchers hand and the flight of the ball when released, concentrate on the count and the situation, what pitch he might think is coming next based on scouting reports and his own weaknesses and the signs from his coaches. Any hitter distracted by the runner is not focused on his job at the plate. Tim should be invisible to the hitter with his mind focused where it should be. If a particular hitter thinks it's distracting , that player can just ask Tim not to do it when he's on 2nd base while he's batting. But I really don't think it bothers many hitters who have dealt with runners on 2nd base moving around all their lives and should know that a runner who distracts a pitcher enough to cause him to make a bad pitch is more for their benefit than anything.

As far as that "bonehead" play goes even people who were watching it were extremely divided on what transpired. Basically Tim got hit by an 110MPH rocket batted ball between 2nd and 3rd base by Robert resulting in the 3rd out. Some thought it was a bad base running play , others thought it was just bad luck and circumstances. No player wants to get hit on a batted ball when it was going to be a hit that drives them in . But it was a rocket and he had very little time to avoid it. In that case I think we have to give the benefit of the doubt to the runner. Even a top notch athlete with such a small amount of time to react might not be able to avoid what happened when he's getting his secondary lead. He's supposed to go on contact but when that contact results in a laser headed right at you, he literally didn't even has time yet to start running after the contact. It's not like the triple play where 2 runners did 2 stupid things at the same time when they had time to observe the catch made by the OF'er.

And the really sad part is that the good behind the scenes people, the best scouts , best analytics people, modern technology etc, the cost for all that is minimal when compared to playing bad players good money that is the result of not having the best organizational people. It's the old penny wise and pound foolish routine. I don't know how Reinsdorf has been so successful without realizing it or he actually does realize it and somehow thinks ,as a business, the Sox are just fine doing it the way he's always done it. That in turn means that winning baseball games is truly not the top priority and that he might just think the Sox just don't have the fan base to support him making the organization 1st class. But if an organization like Tampa Bay can do it with a smaller fan base and way smaller payroll I just don't understand how it isn't possible with the White Sox. Prime example is Menechino . Here's a guy who teaches hitting the way he was as a player. Make contact , go the opposite way for a team that plays in a park where need to out homer your opponents to win . It just doesn't make sense when you have a bunch of big boys who should be knocking balls over the fences. Pitching and defense worked for the Sox in the Go-Go days but we are not in that old spacious Comiskey anymore. The current ballpark has small gaps and isn't conducive to a single and doubles hitting and going the opposite way. The game has changed . It's now take walks, get on base and hit home runs or die.

Yes very frustrating when you take into consideration what was expected coming out of the rebuild .When you've been around the White Sox for as many years as we have you should know by now that the organization's top priority isn't winning. It's just do enough to keep money rolling in and turn a profit. Everything else is just a reflection of that. They will never spend top money for behind the scenes people whose decisions lead to a better on field product. Jerry doesn't fire Hahn because Jerry know his GM is just too limited because of the restraints ownership puts on him. Hahn is working with bottom of the barrel organizational people and what he does as a GM is directly tied to the poor information he receives from them. He doesn't scout the players he trades for. He doesn't make all these terrible decisions in a vacuum. He just processes information and more than likely not the best information. Then his assitant GM Kenny, Getz and finally Jerry puts there stamp of denial or approval on things. I'll bust the organizations balls way more than I do the players. If they suck because their bodies can't handle the grind well , so be it. It won't be the 1st time extremely talented players careers have been ruined by injuries. If they have bad attitudes wouldn't you playing for TLR and knowing all the failures throughout the whole organization ? Yes the players are well compensated but they are human too and if we perceive the organizational rot then so do they. State of mind is a big part of success and failure and this organization breeds failure.

Unfortunately when the Sox have won this year it's usually in the hockey score category when the pitching is good, the defense doesn't bite you in the ass and , just barely enough hitting. You can't win consistently that way with our defense and hitting and keep expecting the pitching to keep scores so low. I mean you have crazy people on here complaining about Gio's FB after he's just pitched a damn good game .

Right. I am constantly amazed that people can claim having more options is just another way for Tony to fuck up. So not only do we all dislike him as manager but we think taking players away from him makes him better ? Um no, it just limit's his ability to use the roster that MLB allows you to have and that your opposition has especially when you never know when the next hammy is going to be strained. I know the whole Leury situation has led to this kind of thinking but playing with 25 players instead of 26 is not a good thing and every time you take one away he just plays Leury even more. Let's give TLR more opportunities to use Leury !

These kind of posts about athletes are so unfair. As an older adult you should know that projecting what you perceive an athletes personality to be without truly knowing him is "stupid and lazy". It requires no compassion, no understanding and no willingness to do anything except express bitterness over your disappointment with their underachievement. We all do it from time to time. Moncada gets it a lot with the whole he doesn't care and he's got no passion for the game stuff. I'm guilty of it myself. I know this isn't a real diehard sports message board without meatball fans takes and hostility but it's much better to just take a deep breathe and say he's just an athlete in a long line of athletes I've watched my whole life who I don't know anything about except they play for my favorite team.

At this point why shouldn't Haseley be playing over Engel and Pollock ? He may be a nothing burger but so are Pollock and Engel. It's time to start trusting some younger healthier players who hit LH instead of letting them slip through the cracks because some fringe RH MLB players stand in their way. Luis Gonzales may have a fine 4th OF career now that the Sox decided he wasn't worth keeping around. Sox could have used a 1.0 WAR OF this year considering they only have 1 of those.

Is this called looking for the black lining ?

Pushing the envelop a little on Gio.