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Of course he's perfectly capable of another 2023 type season ,that's why you'd expect a few really good prospects back. However he's also capable of being injured a lot too and actually getting his team option years refused. Sox probably still likely not to trade him before this year's deadline and take a big chance he can stay healthy in the 1st half of 2025 but if he gets hurt then they have to decide to pick up his 1st $20M a year option . It gets dicey then. Might be best if he got really hot from now until the trade deadline to get some value back.

Great starting pitching this series and nothing to show for it

The Mariners pbp guy was so excited he called it a 3 run HR and a 7-4 win .

I saw something just today that had them 5. It was on YouTube. And It's Gone! Podcast posted 12 days ago .12K Views.

Imury concerns with Robert is not an excuse it's a legit detriment his value.

We all know JR is the real culprit. If I'm carrying a pool you're crying a pool about what exactly , that he had to talk to the media and put his best foot foward straight into his mouth ? He has to say something positive. The culture talk was a coverup for hey we're rebuilding and our team sucks and going forward I'd like to be better defensively but I can't spend any money to get players who can hit and play defense but I can spend a whole $15M on Eric Fedde and turn Crochet into a SP. Perhaps losing Moncada and Robert and playing Benetendi ( who he inherited) has helped make the drgense worse. But regardless it's the 1st year of a freaking rebuild that hardly had anyone to trade. He's in a rat trap built by the guy who hired him . What exactly did you think was going to happen this year ? I've been telling you for months it was a bad plan to turn garbage into prospects but wasn't much else he could do. I've admitted no one but JR would've hired him to be GM . Are you unhappy Crochet and Fedde have worked out so far. There have been good things going on. The farm on the pitching side is looking strong. I keep seeing the farm listed in the top 10 sometimes top 5. Yes the trades made by Hahn and Williams have a lot to do with that but they don't make those decisions in a vaccume .Maybe Getz had some input. Thorpe is coming. He couldve hardly pithed any better since being acquired by Getz. Inciarte's done all right.Zavala has promise. And you really want to go on and on about Getz putting on a brave face in the off-season ?

Aren't you supposed to be bad when you're rebuilding ? I mean theoretically in any other year they'd get the 1st draft pick. Houston did that 2 years in a row and built a long time winner. Of course they also got production from a farm system that actually got good players from the DR to sustain their farm system and hired top people and finished it of with key expensive trades and free agents .The Sox historically do none of that and you're blaming Getz for a bad season that we all knew was the start of a rebuild when he hasnt been GM long enough to keep the chair warm. Getz was hired by the owner during a year that they could get no better than the 10th pick while that same owner threw Getz under the bus knowing full well he'd be slashing the payroll while talking with a forked tongue about a quick turnaround. Getz is like a mouse who got devoured by the snake in a cage. All Getz could is spew BS . What's he supposed to say ? "Um hey I know I was hired because I work cheap and I'm inexperienced and to cover for the owners lack of vision. I'm sorry I have to cover for his lies by trying to turn crap into gold this season. The few good players I thought I had all got injured and I was forced to trade my best pitcher and next year we'll have even more money off the books and I still don't know what I'll be allowed to do but JR says I can get some mid level free agents but he won't let me hire top scouts and other experienced expensive people so I went with people I knew from KC . My pitching guy actually likes trying to get blood from turnips. Sorry fellas I still don't know what JRs plan is I'm just his latest fall guy. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

Good luck getting that kind of new ownership . 125 year old franchise and still haven't had one like that.

Out of the 3 of Eloy , Robert Jr and Moncada, Moncada had played the most possible games percentage wise of the 3 oft injured mega-prospects. Moncada's huge year was the 2019 bouncy ball year. He never could hit for much power after that. Even his 4 WAR year was a lot of WAR for his fielding and OBP due to walks , he barely eeked out a .400 slg with a strong finish. Robert still flashes the big time power but he can't stay on the field long enough to really find a groove . Small sample size sucking before and after the injury this year. Seems to heat up as the weather does much like Abreu used to. The post season is not warm weather months if we want to speculate on how a healthy Robert would do in the postseason. He did hit that 486 foot bomb against Oakland in the postseason.

Considering 2020 was the 60 game season he did "show up" but we see what happens to him so far in full seasons . He misses around half the games averaging it out.

Your comment about the timing of the tanking just reminds me that sometimes it just seems like the franchise has a dark cloud attached to it. The recent rebuild was black clouded by COVID and the strike and core pieces being ultra fragile. I mean sure the owner makes decisions that hurt the franchise so you do make your own luck also but Murphy's Law does seem to have a particular attraction to the Sox . Now the league steps in and makes major strange changes to the draft to hurt the Sox again. I don't get it . If you don't like tanking make it a lottery and at least give the worst teams a fair shot at the highest pick. It seems counterproductive to make rules that keep the downtrodden weaker. All kinds of money given out for competitive balance which the Sox don't get and then the anti competitive balance draft rule which seems to be directly aimed at keeping the Sox down. Too big of a market to get competitive balance money and too weak of a franchise to better itself so the league decides to take away their draft status when they are clearly the worst team. Talk about timing , even when they were tanking during the rebuild the highest pick they could get was 3rd. They couldn't even be a success at being the worst and the minute they succeed at being the worst the league hits them with a new rule.

If the Sox somehow managed to tie it up we may get to see Maldonado bat again to try to drive in a run to win it. ? It

Basically the same thought I had. ?

I guess Robert should just walk it off.

He did foul one off on a full swing on the 2nd to last pitch.

I didn't need Nightingale to tell me trading either one was unlikely. Robert value not what it was and Crochet a big ? For 2nd half and postseason.

Wow you managed to stereotype the way a whole generation thinks. Nazi much ?

Has to be banged up but can't let that relic bat in that situation but I guess if Lee is hurting another loss is inconsequential.

So far no good !

Slingin' Sammy Peralta in for Flexon to try his luck

A whole 8 people here in the game thread ?

I'd take the under on 15 easily. Maybe on 10 also.

Different strokes for different folks is all I'm saying ✌️

Actually 2 since he's been back. The other 2 he hit in the same game March 30 .

I can't remember the last Sox TV announcer I disliked. Why should they bother me if they entertain me or inform me ? Life is too short to cry over so many things. Back to the ashram ?