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And ? I mean that was what Getz seemed to be doing from the onset. Call it what you will , the Bannister Plan or whatever. Get innings from Clevinger as a cheap innings eater and make guy in the minors earn their spot in the rotation. I thought that was what people wanted instead of rushing guys.

Yes ? I think one part of Getz plan is to gather as much minor league talent as he can and at some point they will come up. But he wants them to force the issue by performance. You can't say Nastrini deserves to be in the rotation already based on performance unless you put a lot of stock in ST results. Clevinger is just a means to an end. Pay low, buy your young guys time.

That's overblown. Gio has always said he liked it in Chicago and would be open to coming back.

Same as Pillar actually. They didn't have to pay Pillar . His contract wasn't guaranteed so they said you're not making the team when we rather have the money. They didn't have to pay Clevinger more than they did because he was unwanted. He got a little more than the Pillar money. Both purely business decisions. There are contracts structured the same way all over baseball for the guys hanging on by a thread that say if you make the team we'll pay you more and then they are cut. Pillar's situation was not unique . No one would give him what the Sox offer was. It's a contract ,maybe him or his agent should have read it. If you have people over a barrel in business they have to accept offers on your terms.

You're ignoring the fact that a couple months ago Clevinger was hoping for more money. He thought after pitching well he'd get better offers even though no one wanted him at the deadline. Maybe he chalked that up to the injury. Then he opted out right. Clearly thinking he'd get more. He's either getting really bad advice or thinking he's not a bad guy and can't comprehend why he is unwanted. Sounds idiotic to me also but clearly Clevinger held out for more until it became apparent that only 1 team was willing to pay him anything. It's already been said by Harold I think that the Sox had that offer out to him for a while but he wouldn't take it. He finally came to his senses and accepted it. He knows he can't miss a year. He has to keep pitching and keep showing he's not everything his reputation makes him out to be . He was out of options.

If the only thing that matters is young players performing well then them performing well equals more wins. So actually a few more wins does matter to you . Maybe not with Clevinger but if winning builds confidence I'd rather be winning more to build more confidence in the young players who don't want to be viewed as losers. Eventually the younger guys will get their chances.

April fools ?

Tony might have JR in his Will so where there's a Will, there's a way. ?

I think it is working ?. Seriously I know it sounds like a joke but the defense and pitching hasn't been bad. If they get more minor leaguers at the deadline for pitching it worked. Of course they will trade pitching for pitching .

I was guessing his left one because that's the leg, the front leg he does that toe point twisty leg batting stance . His adductor couldn't take that stance any more.

The Braves LHH has been killing it. Last year's didn't the Sox take 2 of 3 from the Braves ?

Then statcast is off because the side camera shot of that pitch was well below the knees if you're talking about the Robert punch out . If Eloy that pitch was both down and away.

Especially when an umpire will call strike 3 on a pitch at his shins.

Pitiful and injured today although the pitiful ump punched him and Robert both out on 3-2 pitches that weren't close. Hard to take walks when umps are terrible. I'd like to see those ump scorecards for the 3 games.

I'd guess more otherwise you keep him especially if there were a couple controllable years and an option as someone else mentioned as a possibility.

2 decent games but 2 losses.

Let's go ! 1 or you're done .

Just 1

All he had to do was just stand there and take the 3 -1 pitch with a guy who wasn't throwing strikes with Robert behind him. Baseball IQ.

Need runs please

Greene's swing looks a bit like Bellinger .

I'm happy Nationwide hasn't pulled their sponsorship. Jeff Vuckovich must be a huge Sox fan.

I'm not down on Moncada. I think his salary is too high for his performance level and he won't be here next year but he could have a decent year if healthy. Don't think he'll ever have another 2019 bouncy ball type year. He might be capable of another 2021 year though.

Or a few minutes apparently.

He's had a lot of injuries and is still how old ? 26 ? Give him another 2 years at least.