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Bears stop NO on 4th and 1. NO couldve licked a FG and made the lead 10. Hope left ?

defensive holding on J. Jones give NO a 1st down on 3rd and 3. NO hasn't had a single penalty called on them all game.Bears 6th.

Blah. Bagent INT .NO starts on the Bears 38. Bears 3rd TO can't win that way. No takeaways.

Saints TD. Too easy 24-17.Bears conservative play deep in their own end led to that TD. Have to trust that Bagent could produce 1st downs like he has all game.

Bears went conservative team in their own end. 2 runs and a quick out to WR on 3rd down produces their 1st 3 and out of the day. NO starts in Bears territory.

Bears D bends but doesn't break. Forces a punt . Bears ball on their own 10 yd line. Can Bagent lead a long drive ?

Bagent coming right back down field. Now holding penalty , now false start Braxton Jones . But Foreman 23 yd run. 3rd and 7 Moore double teamed in the end zone almost makes a spectacular catch but couldn't hold on to it. Santos ties it with 31 yard FG. Bear down Bears defense !

NO 10 pts. off 2 turnovers. Bears 1 missed FG. Hurting themselves.

DJ Moore fumble a pass after Bears stopped NO on it's 1st possession of the 2nd half. Bears then stopped NO after the fumble . 3rd down Sweat forced a bad pass by getting his hand on Hill's shoulder. But NO 55 yd FG . 17-14 NO .

Bagent 10/13 140 yards. Leading Rusher with 6 rushes for 60 yards. Mooney had a nice half. 4/70 Kmet 3/27 2 TD Evans 1/17 Moore 2/34 Rushing: Foreman 10/43

Santos misses a 40 yd FG . His 1st miss of the season off the upright. Doink ! Looks like it'll be 14 -14 at halftime.

Bagent 7/9 129 yard 2 TDs 1 INT.

Well looks like this is will be quite the Bears game . Another Kmet TD after a Bagent 1st down run with great effort.

I tend to agree but JR is the key here which is why is tend to agree.

Great drive. Great TD catch by Kmet ! Awesome start.

You cant wait too long. I'm going under the impression that JR said he wants to compete ASAP so that would mean getting some quality this year. I don't don't believe JR as far as I can throw him but that's what I'm doing right now . You can't get everyone you want in 1 year but you can get some pieces.

I think you need to sign a guy like Bellinger . Yeah the contract maybe too long and too expensive but somehow the Sox need to re-establish that things are going to be different. Even if they won't be. 9 figures ,so over $100M ? Man I don't know about that. He got more than anyone thought he would last year and it turned up roses for him.But yeah it's possible 4 years $25M. Guess I'll have to take a look at the projections .

If Getz can't figure out that all middling vets do is waste a bunch of money and if he's depending on Grifol ,Salvy Perez and Whit Merrfield to raise the bar of competent play he's as clueless as the rest of them including the guy at the top of the totem pole, JR. They have so many holes I know some vets especially in the starting pitching staff have to be signed but as for the rest of the roster, I'd just hit the non tendered list and maybe make a play for Bellinger.

That's not marketing. it's saying goodbye and thanks for the memories. If there is any hope that they resign him for less they don't want to burn their bridges. It's just smart to do that. I don't think there's much of a chance they resign him but I suppose that depends on how long he remains unsigned and the market for him. He may be eating a lot of humble pie during his wait.

He WAS used in marketing campaigns. That's ancient history now. Why ? Because now his whole life is a mess. Won't be the 1st time someone marketed a good cool hip player whose world suddenly collapsed because he couldn't handle fame and it won't be the last. As a professional athlete your career is fleetingly short unless you keep your eyes on the brass ring. He isn't a movie star or musician alcoholic pill popper going through marriage after marriage and still able to get chance after chance because you go through rehab and straighten out everything. Young and old alike succumb to the pressures of fame. At this point I'd be happy to see him turn his life around. I certainly don't want to see him become a tragedy like we see so often in the music and movie industry. It was time to move on.

Why do people keep forgetting Lenyn Sosa ? Can't he play SS ? He'd hit more HR's than TA maybe field better too. I mean you can't really get worse production than TA gave the Sox last year. Or Sosa at 2nd base . Just because his initial try's at the bigs weren't instantly successful doesn't mean he's run out of chance. He's still one of the Sox best prospects. OK Sosa isn't in the top 30 prospects list anymore I suppose because he's had around 200 MLB AB's but as far as young players closest to making an impact next season he has to be close to the top of the list among position players. Ramos and Rodriquez got cups of coffee with the Sox but both have barely played at AAA. Montgomery has only had 131 AA and some AFL AB's. They aren't going to rush Montgomery. I'm not even sure he will start the year in AAA. Back to Birmingham seems more likely.

I don't like picking the low hanging fruit here, But you think the baby mama drama and flipping off fans means nothing and apparently by the response in "likes" you got others agree. But it couldn't be farther from the truth. If isolated, those things mean nothing IF he continued to play well. However all the drama, the fight, all coincided with terrible baseball. Tim's whole world has fallen apart and we're supposed to think all the drama didn't affect his play ? Everything has been a disaster with him. I said I'd decline his option a couple of weeks ago. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Let's pay a player falling apart at the seams $14M just to see if he can get a new head, a new body and suddenly there's a happily ever after ? Poor Tim is just misunderstood. You scolded Lipman for being in a Soxtalk world but you're in some fantasy world where TA is somehow marketable and worth $14M. It's preposterous. Like I said when I said to decline his option. Let's see what the rest of baseball is willing to pay him now. You'll get your answer then about how good and marketable he is. I think he'll be lucky to get 2 years $20M. I expect less than that. Feel free to save this for when he signs with someone else.

You'd have to have a whole lot of variables in Eder's career to go right for what you just said to be true. You'd also have to think that neither Eder or Burger would make much of a difference on the Sox roster as currently constructed for a 2024-25 team. But you might be cheering your ass off in 2025 when Eder pitches some meaningless innings as a reliever in 2025 with a 5 ERA for another non playoff team. If we are judging value only based on years of control, then the Sox have just as many valuable guys going forward as every team. Well unless you think quality players also have some value.

Time will tell if it was a bad trade for the Sox but you don't have to trade a Tatis Jr. or Semien to make a trade bad. If Burger ends up staying with the Marlins for a while and stays relatively healthy and produces at a 1 t0 3.5 WAR clip for a few years while Eder languishes in the minors and is eventually an MLB reliever, those 1st 2 to 3 years after the trade will be lopsided in the Marlins favor. If Eder is an eventual MLB reliever he won't ever catch up to the WAR production that Burger will produce with the Marlins. 30-35 HR's comes in awful handy. The Phillies got pretty far with a lineup full of guys who can hit the long ball the last 2 years. I don't know if saying Eder is close to being ready as an MLB starting pitcher should be considered "staying on top of things". It's more like blowing smoke up our asses.

I wouldn't say everyone. Plenty on this board were thrilled with the trade and convinced Burger was who they thought he was which was a terrible fielder, injury prone, low average, low OBP guy. It was like all the time he had missed meant nothing and he had no chance to improve and his transition into the major leagues didnt need to take extra time because of the time missed. It was just all so simple to project him as a future failure. I'm not convinced Eder is condemned to a life as he is who we think he is either but he's behind the 8 ball just as much as Burger was only he's just getting started on his journey to be an effective big league pitcher and Burger was already showing big signs that he was ready to blossom into a quality MLB hitter.