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And this stuff has been talked about for a while yet people will still say the Sox didn't develop him. The stubbornness of people to acknowledge the Sox can do something's right under Getz leadership is mindboggling. It was all Crochet .Period. I don't care what's out there talking about all the ways they helped him get better, Or even who Crochet gives credit to.

I think part of the reason you addressed Eddy is because you know he will respond fairly while the other guy won't be so kind. So it actually seems like you should address the other protagonists too. I don't spend a lot of time defending Getz but I do once in a while. I think it's much harder to judge middle management like when he was Director of Player Development for maybe 3 or 4 years. It's not like he's coaching these kids, or allocating the budget. He only can do so much and not one person here knows what he could or could not do. They just see that the farm system was ranked very high when he started , which he had nothing or little to do with since the 1st rebuild trades were mostly completed that made farm highly ranked already. Then they see who got drafted while he was in charge and little success from those drafted and the farm getting worse when all the top prospects get to the majors. Can anyone really point to a Sox farm director who had success and tell us why it happened ? Drafting is largely based on scouting reports and these days on more data or micro scouting, too. Drafting is also a group decision . We have no idea if players Getz thought should be drafted were actually drafted. We don't know anything except what we imagine we see or can point to and say from 2017 to 2020 they couldn't develop anyone . If Colson Montgomery becomes a star which Director of player development gets credit or any other Minor Leaguer who been in the system 3 or 4 years.

A lot of times these guys get hired because they have a good voice and some knowledge or multiple sports and look pleasant enough on camera. These tweeters are morons. There's no one who knows the history of every teams great players. Robertsons been dead a while .He played long ago.of course Schriffen prepared so he learned about Robertson on short notice most likely. The trouble is even without weed or advanced age your mind doesn't always remember correctly and that's not good for an announcer. Sucks he said it wrong and had people screaming it's Robertson not Robinson you douchebag. He should have someone in his ear telling him he made a mistake after the 1st time but chances are the producers or someone back in the studio doesn't even know it's Robertson.

Right you don't know & I don't know but it's Getz job to find out. I had read and even mentioned the pitching coach in a previous post. I had no idea who did what. If u say it was mostly the coach Iguchi went along with the plan. Iguchis isn't exactly unknown to Sasaki and if he's a good kid raised to honor his elders he likely respects his ex manager more than he might Getz.

Look you can argue with me as much as you want I just told you I know the odds are long for any star player even on a fairly equal monetary contract to want to play on the Sox.If it makes you feel better to say I knew he wasn't coming here then great be happy being right. I'm just saying there's a way for it to happen if Sasaki has respect for Iguchi and Getz really wanted to get him that's the angle along with look what we did for Crochet. I'm not saying It'll work.. But it is a angle that no one else can use.

Calling yourself a slave is more than complaining. He also had a ex girlfriend of a teammate complaining about Colas messaging her or something like that. I forget the exact details. Plus he obviously did something to piss off the coaches since despite making it into the top 100 briefly in one publication when he tore up A & AA and made it to AAA in his 1st minor league season he's been persona non grata with lesser talents getting chances over him.

We all know the odds are long .I'm just pointing out that Iguchi was his manager and looked out for him and Iguchi really liked playing for the Sox and wants to come back. If Iguchi was a coach with the Sox it would be a familiar face and father figure and could be an invaluable mentor to Sasaki. If you don't think it holds any weight so be it. I think the kid would like to have Iguchi around and that's the best chance the Sox have if they can match the money and find ways to trade for more since their pool money is less no matter when he decides to sign.

There are also monetary incentives to the players . If you recall Dylan Cease won the most money because of his 2022 season in the 1st ever pre-arbitration bonus pool based on the new CBA rules that was ratified in March 2022. Since players have 3 pre arbitration years they can technically earn extra money all 3 years based on WAR or finishing high in Cy Young and MVP voting. Julio Rodriquez and Corbin Carroll have won Multiple times and Bobby Witt just got an extra $3M . All teams throw in $1.67M into what amount to a $50M pool given to the top 100 pre arbitration players every year of the new CBA which runs through the 2026 season. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35219927/source-dylan-cease-headlines-new-pre-arbitration-bonus-pool https://apnews.com/sports/baseball-5dc4b61e33649fa5d08e17c3de87cf67 https://apnews.com/2023-mlb-pre-arbitration-bonus-pool-e42e78b212cf3ab0b86b36f66fbaa47f Those are the list of winners from 2022, 2023 & 2024 . The 2022 is not the full list since it's just an article about Cease getting the top reward and has a cursory list of the 2022 top rewards but not the full list that the AP puts out which is what the other 2 links are for 2024 and 2023. The new list comes out every December. I see Burger got an extra $356K for his 2023 season.

Sure but we do have some selling points to present if Getz chooses that path. For all we know Getz hasn't reached out to Iguchi. I don't know of any reporter who has asked him if he has yet in recent interviews during the many times he spoke at the Winter meetings. I'd be interested in knowing that. It seems like the best way to do it. Having Iguchi there representing and pumping up the Sox as a soft landing spot would be ideal.

On the Sox moving since this is Soxtalk. JRs been planning for his kids to inherit the team when he died for ages. Sure he said he's open to selling but he's angling for funds for a new ballpark. There was never any real threat that he'd sell the team to Dave Stewart. Reinsdorf and Stewart both are full of it.

I believe you Greg . You're a good Catholic kid raised to respect people unlike the boomer giving you s%*# because he feels superior to you and basically loves to pick on the unpopular kids even as a grown man still acting like a bully on a fan forum.

Haven't we closed the book on Nashville yet ?

Colas probably isn't getting his shot because he's of questionable character as much as his inability to learn fundamentals. Maybe see if Brewers will take Colas for that left handed Cuban 1st baseman they have who does the splits stretching for throws, 6'6" 250lb Ernesto Martinez , Jr who is a very good fielder and athletic enough to steal 20 bases in AA but he's 25 and just resigned with the Brewers with an invite to spring training. They call him " El espectaculo". Colas probably has more upside but he does need out of the organization with Getz putting so much emphasis on good personalities. Martinez supposedly fits that description. It wouldn't hurt the Sox to have an excellent defensive 1st baseman who can run if they can get him to tap into his power more. He's likely a nobody but at this point so is Colas. Martinez although in AA seems closer to the majors with the Brewers than Colas is with the Sox. https://www.mlb.com/news/ernesto-martinez-jr-non-roster-invitee-brewers-2025-spring-training

Dick Allen saved the Sox from being sold to Bud Selig by co-owner Arthur Allyn and moving to Milwaukee along with John Allyn who didn't think Milwaukee was worthy of a charter member of the American League .Arthur also tried to sell the team to Lamar Hunt. John eventually sold the team back to Veeck who in turn sold it to Reinsdorf. Katt said they called Allen Mos which was short for Moses because he led the White Sox out of the wilderness. He called Katt Old Timer. Fun interview although Matt Vasgersian's ignorance that Phillies fans booing Allen was racially motivated when Vasgersian tried to compare them booing him to the same as booing Steve Carlton and Jack Schmidt as an act of respect. Kaat set him straight. Phillies were the last NL team to integrate in 1957 , 10 years after Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Allen's rookie year with the Phil's was 1963 only 6 years after their 1st African America ballplayer.

That Sunday Tribune Parade Magazine was the same Sunday of the infamous Dick Allen Chili Dog HR off Sparky Lyle pinch hitting in the 2nd game of a doubleheader against the Yankees. It was Bill Melton Bat day and back then you got full sized bats and there were 52,000 people in old Comiskey Park

Because no one remembers him. I thought of him when writing my post but couldn't remember his name. He's just basically an overseer making sure everyone is communicating. At least that how I envision his function. If I mentioned him people would be asking who the f is Mahler ?

Getz, Bannister, Venable, Fuller , McKinven : A New Hope😋

That's why I said might EASILY get $350M .My conservation guess was at 29 yrs old to start the 2026 season he'd get 10 years $35-40M per season. Easily could be more.

That's why the Cubs won't be able to extend him. Hell get a HUGE contract next year. He might easily clear $350M.

Shane Smith who they just got in the Rule 5 draft from the Brewers has to be on the Sox 26 . He's a starter and reliever so he should get innings as a swingman or longan to see if he was worth picking. Steven Wilson has to bounce back from a subpar injury filled year. Prelander Berroa has closer stuff. Has to throw more strikes which is a theme in the Sox bullpen. It's why they took Smith who had around a 1.00 WHIP in 94 inning between AA and AAA. He's only had 157 total innings in the minors and only 6.2 in AAA but the Brewers left him unprotected because he had no pedigree as an undrafted FA from Wake Forest and wasn't in their top 30 prospects despite being a valuable pitcher in their system who rose fairly quickly and maintained his good stats. He played in the Southern League against the Barons so the Sox were familiar with him. He had over 10 K per 9. Jordan Leasure is another guy who has to show he can stay healthy and throw strikes. Among guys on the 40 you have Fraser Ellard,Justin Anderson, Jared Shuster, Chris Flexen ,Enyel De Los Santos, Jake Eder , Ron Marinaccio , Penn Murfee, Jesse Scholtens. You have some promising relief arms not on the 40 like Trey McGough and Adisyn Coffey and others. Coffey could close as a rookie. Plus some arms can still be picked up. A lot of those 40 man RP are just as likely to be released as they are to make the opening day roster.

There's plenty of tallish outfielders who can hit and run.Robert is 6'3 but BMont who is 6'2" and a solid 220 is ideally suited to RF not CF like someone like Justin Crawford who I've seen listed at 6'3" and 6'2" 188 and is still very much a slap hitter and his batting average driven OBP is driven by a high ground all rate. If the Phillies really did offer Aidan Miller and Crawford at the TDL for Crochet and Getz asked for Painter too it's because Miller was barely 20 and Crawford about 20.5 so they were still A ball guys although highly rated. He wanted to mitigate some of the risk associated with guys that young. I just think Getz preferred AA success over A ball success and the switch hitting and more powerful,great arm ,high walk of the slightly older Montgomery. Teel should slot in behind Schultz as the Sox number 2 prospect and BMont 5th.

Hands, wrists and forearm are a lot more important to hitting . My baseball coach used to tie a weight to a long string connected to a bar and we'd have to hold our arms out holding the bar and roll it up. Old school weight training for hands ,wrists and forearms. He'd have various weights so you could also increase the amount. He's already pretty solid at 6'2" 220.

Definitely. I wonder if the Sox will start him off in Kanny. Hoping he gets off to a great start.

https://www.mlb.com/news/braden-montgomery-on-trade-to-white-sox?partnerID=web_article-share Says the ankle feels great. Was in batting cage when he heard he was traded. Videos plus article summary.

That last paragraph is what I just wrote plus how using Iguchi and getting him back in uniform to convey it all to Sasaki. Bam Iguchi at the new rinkydink Soxfest too . Apparently they don't have many attractions to get people to celebrate the 2005 teams' 20th Anniversary. Just need to insulate Iguchi and Sasaki away from the anger that may turn up at the event. I got it all planned out already .Idle hands apparently are the devil's workshop.