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If you want to know what it is like over there then ask some of the troops that have been over there recently. I had a few guys in one of my classes that had recently come back from Iraq and what they said was much different than other people say. There is always a certain degree of bias in anything you read or hear. You have to read from both sides of the bias and take the middle ground of those two to be as close to truth as it is going to get. None of us here at home who haven't been to Iraq know what the people there think or feel, we merely have to listen and dissect what we hear as best we can.

Yeah, I haven't had a chance to check those splits either. That is an important thing to analyze when comparing the three. I will have to check that out.

Zito SEASON TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 2000 Oakland Athletics 7 4 2.72 14 14 1 1 0 0 92.2 64 30 28 6 2 45 78 2001 Oakland Athletics 17 8 3.49 35 35 3 2 0 0 214.1 184 92 83 18 13 80 205 2002 Oakland Athletics 23 5 2.75 35 35 1 0 0 0 229.1 182 79 70 24 9 78 182 2003 Oakland Athletics 14 12 3.30 35 35 4 1 0 0 231.2 186 98 85 19 6 88 146 2004 Oakland Athletics 2 3 6.83 5 5 0 0 0 0 29.0 40 24 22 6 3 10 23 Career Totals 63 32 3.25 124 124 9 4 0 0 797.0 656 323 288 73 33 301 634 Mulder SEASON TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 2000 Oakland Athletics 9 10 5.44 27 27 0 0 0 0 154.0 191 106 93 22 4 69 88 2001 Oakland Athletics 21 8 3.45 34 34 6 4 0 0 229.1 214 92 88 16 5 51 153 2002 Oakland Athletics 19 7 3.47 30 30 2 1 0 0 207.1 182 88 80 21 11 55 159 2003 Oakland Athletics 15 9 3.13 26 26 9 2 0 0 186.2 180 66 65 15 2 40 128 2004 Oakland Athletics 2 2 4.12 6 6 0 0 0 0 39.1 41 20 18 3 1 12 28 Career Totals 66 36 3.79 123 123 17 7 0 0 816.2 808 372 344 77 23 227 556 Hudson SEASON TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 1999 Oakland Athletics 11 2 3.23 21 21 1 0 0 0 136.1 121 56 49 8 4 62 132 2000 Oakland Athletics 20 6 4.14 32 32 2 2 0 0 202.1 169 100 93 24 7 82 169 2001 Oakland Athletics 18 9 3.37 35 35 3 0 0 0 235.0 216 100 88 20 6 71 181 2002 Oakland Athletics 15 9 2.98 34 34 4 2 0 0 238.1 237 87 79 19 8 62 152 2003 Oakland Athletics 16 7 2.70 34 34 3 2 0 0 240.0 197 84 72 15 10 61 162 2004 Oakland Athletics 3 1 3.53 6 6 1 0 0 0 43.1 38 19 17 2 4 8 22 Career Totals 83 34 3.27 162 162 14 6 0 0 1095.1 978 446 398 88 39 346 818 By those stats, I don't really think you can say that they are both much better than Hudson. They are all pretty much equal if anything.

How about grammar mistakes instead?

It is ok right now in my book

#1 Starter is the guy that is at the top of a rotation. An ace is a guy that goes out there every game and has a chance to dominate and completely shut another team down. He will take the team on his back and carry them. That is the difference between an Ace and a #1. Guys like Pedro in his prime, Unit in his Prime, Halladay, Hudson, Rocket....Those guys are aces.

Not really

Nevermind, went to ESPN.com and got my own answer. Sorry

Is it true this game is on ESPN tonight? My friend just told me that, I wanted to verify.

What about the mom from All in the Family? Edith I think it was?

After reading The Communist Manifesto and The Marx & Engles Reader I have a bit of a new appreciation for what he believed and thought. He had some odd and interesting ideas. BTW 1549, the reason the USSR failed, atleast in a Marxist way was because Marx felt it would take a worldwide revolution to succeed. Not just one country like Russia. I kinda think you are right about it only working on an island, unless everyone was put in a situation like Russia. But hey, that's just my 2 cents

Hey, if you posted it maybe you put a hex on him like the game thread and he will just decide to retire tomorrow

Yeah, good to see Minnie lose in extra innings last night

This is great stuff. Keep it giong

Ouch, I didn't realize it was that bad. :puke

Awesome, I am going to Vegas at the end of May too for about 4 days. Should kick some serious ass

And then never returns to argue his point or even read the thread he starts again.

And if you quoted me right you would notice that I never said Koch was even close to Thigpen

Yeah, I had the same problem as you guys. I was trying to watch the gamecast because I couldn't watch the game (one final and it isn't until thursday). It really pissed me off, just glad I was able to get on a little after the game and see what had happened as well as figure how I am getting home. Thanks ISU :puke

No good closer walks the bases loaded ever or has a lot of men on base? I guess you never saw Bobby Thigpen.....you know, the guy with the season save record? I am not a Koch backer by any means but some of the greatest closers walked a fine line between getting the save and blowing it. That is just how it goes sometimes.

BTW nice work on the analysis Jug. I really enjoyed it.