jackie hayes

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 01:31 AM) Try to spin Garcia-Fields-Pods for Peavy. Try and sell high on Contreras, get a nice batch of prospects back to re-stock the system I still believe in Vaz as well for some reason, and want to see if he can work on things in the offseason Mark Peavy Jon Vaz Mac I would have no problem with that, and with Freddy and Count off the books(might have to pick up some of the tab on both guys) we should have no problem spending some cash if need be on LF/SS or locking up Joe or Dye. Well, okay. But a guy could make the same complaints about that rotation that you made earlier. Peavy has been very average -- in the NL, no less. If the Pads would take that deal, which I doubt. Fields is decent and Freddy is marginal, and I think clubs will be very cautious in giving up a 2-year ace. There's a lot of false hope built into this scenario, methinks.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 01:11 AM) Why does that look good to you? Mark has been very average this season. Count is a shell of the 2005 pitcher we fell in love with. Garland has been solid as hell the 2nd half, but had a brutal 1st half. I like McCarthy as much as the next guy, but he is going to have some pretty big bumps in the road next season. Im not sure I want him as my #4 just yet. Charlie just pitched two good innings against the Royals in a 7-1 game. Im not ready to put him into my rotation. It seems odd to ask why that looks good, while comparing it to our current rotation, which has looked anything but good. I would say that those 3 vets are at least the most obvious keepers. Personally, I wouldn't put Haeger in the rotation just yet, but I'd try McCarthy there, with Haeger and Broadway in the wings (close in the wings). For someone who thinks that way, switching Vazquez (a guy I still believe in, for some reason) for Haeger doesn't seem like it's that awful, even if it's not my first choice. So I'm wondering -- would you keep this rotation intact? Or if you'd swap Brandon in for someone, is the only thing you're objecting to the extra Haeger-for-x switch?

QUOTE(beautox @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 12:54 AM) yes nice work chuck, in his mlb debut he was throwing the knuckle in the high 70s low 80s, for a knuckle ball to be effective it needs to be thrown in the low 70s, he even said after his start he was incredibly nervous. Personally i know alot of people here don't like the idea of a knuckle baller in the rotataion but the sox have a proud tradition of it, and Haeger is MLB ready, him along with Broadway should be in the show in '07, if we got rid of Vazquez and Garcia we could have the same production for 1/20th the cost, between McCarthy and Haeger, also we could then spend that money on resigning MB long term, and getting a top tier SS. Personally, I like the idea of keeping Haeger around. I know there's that prejudice against knucklers. But even if you have merely a fifth starter who just doesn't wear out, with a below-value price even after arbitration (cuz noone likes knucklers) -- that's a big plus for any club.

QUOTE(Dan @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 12:46 AM) Soxtalk.com is waiting! Be careful what you wish for. Especially when you're asking the Ed Farmer FANATIC. Light it up!

Since the other thread's been designated the cuss-a-thon (understandably), I want to hear it here for that guy with the knuckleball that just fluttered into our hearts, the one, the only, Charlie Make-Em-Look-Stupid HAEGER!!!!!! Short outing, I know, but he was throwing that thing well. He got lit up before, well, he's a knuckleballer, AND a rookie. It happens. But tonight he settled in after a batter or two, and he was impressive. Even mixed in the fastball beautifully. Post yer kudos here.

So wrong, so incredibly wrong. So I'm on the 12th, right?, and, par 3, and, base hit into right field, Iguchi round to 3rd, and this is just the most impressive course you've ever SEEN. And Joe is sayin, Guys, I got to pack it in, I have a 4 o'clock. Yeah. Yeah. [Looooooooong pause.] On the 12th hole, I'm telling you! Now the Royals don't have much in the way of locating, as you could see on that WIIIIILD pitch in the 5th, but they do have what they call "filthy" stuff nowadays. His stuff is filthy! Yeah. Yeah. Go go go go, Farmio.

QUOTE(Dan @ Sep 2, 2006 -> 12:15 AM) are you serious?!!? over the travesty and disgrace that is Ed Farmer?!! Aww, no, you didn't. Even the comparison is an insult to common sense. Farmio, you still got a fan here. Better with Rooney, but I still enjoy yer calls.

Yeah, I don't know how fans can get so obsessed with the competition in their division. It would be as out of hand as comparing other teams to the communist threat to America, which the fans of any respectable team would hiss into oblivion.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) I understand, but the difference was in 2005, we did not rely on the home run. Actually, we did. QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) Getting Thome was supposed to add power to the lineup, but still keep the speed. No, it wasn't. It was supposed to provide more stability than Thomas and more production than Everett. And we had no speed last year. Pods + 0. QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) If we had this kind of pitching last year, to go w/ the offense we had last year, we'd be prolly 20 games worse than we are. So you're ranting against the offense, then saying that last year was all about pitching, saying, in conclusion, our offense sucks cuz our pitching is much worse than last year. I give ya the first big of the game thread. It's getting to that sad point where people say, damn, if only we hit fewer homers, we'd win a million... Lo f'n l. Yeah, that's the problem.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 10:21 PM) DAMMMNNN. Even Fez would call that a burn. Why? Weenie tots are the food of the gods. Much better than fried eggs.

Gobble...gobble......cluck. Damn.

Turkey time? Gobble, gobble.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 06:32 PM) Rob Mackowiak started 4 of the 7 games we played against Detroit and Minnesota in CF. Yeah, but Sweeney wasn't an option then. I find it gives me greater chills today.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 05:53 PM) http://www.battleyourtailoff.com/minorblog/ Go down to the ceiling of their prospects, they are out of their mind on some on them. I realize its a ceiling, but be realistic. . Damn, maggs, your mom must be one hell of a ballplayer.

Sedona red? In that case, I'll see you guys later. I've found my team.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 06:16 PM) Well, Mackowiak is in CF today it looks like... Has anything more awful ever been said?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) Fixed it. It isn't easy being green, but sometimes it's too easy to be green.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) The U.S. Forces in Iraq have been increased back to 140,000, up from 127,000 a month or so ago. I see no contradiction. We will reduce troop levels by 7000, we just don't know when. If he had meant that troop levels would be reduced within any given span of time, that would be a deadline. And deadlines mean the terrorists win. Now, this is all very obvious, so while I don't want to question your patriotism, I have to ask, Balta, why do you hate America?

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 10:35 AM) Simple solution for that. If watching TV shows from the 1950s has taught me anything, forums devoted to cleaning and cooking should bring in a swarm of women. Where's our June Cleaver?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:13 AM) I'm aloud my one grammatical f***up of the day. Damn -- I was kinda hoping it was intentional.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:11 AM) I needed that laugh bro. That was a fun thread.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:05 AM) ^^^^^^^^^ To the mixed people.. Not counting anyone banned, or to even state this the wrong way, but I'm probably the only poster here now who has "color".. I doubt it, but maybe you're right. You are a dime a dozen, Ace.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:05 AM) Gathright and Tyner are nobodies, Scott Podsednik was the heart and sole of the 2005 World Series Champion Chicago White Sox offense, the MVP of the 2005 team, an '05 All-Star and the cutest player in the bigs (outside of Jorge Cantu). He has some damn nice value IMO. "sole" -- Love it.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 01:38 AM) Scott Podsednik is not a free agent after this season... Technicalities... Yah, but, you know, I didn't even think about that before answering. In the past, every time someone brought up Garland or Cotts or Crede, I'd ask myself if he will actually be a fa. But with Pods, gone is gone. I believe we'll get something for Freddy, but I don't know about Pods. Look at how Joey Gathrights and Jason Tyners change hands. And look at the hands involved.

QUOTE(shoota @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 01:21 AM) I'm ignorant to the process of how a FA is rated for draft picks, so could the reason Pods has been playing every day be to ensure the Sox receive an A draft pick and not a B when Pods signs elsewhere in the offseason? The Elias Sports Bureau determines if they are a type A or type B or type SUX fa, which fixes compensation. The top x% of all players at a position are type A, the next y% are type B, etc. I don't remember what x and y are, but Pods would certainly have to be a top 50% lf (or of, maybe -- ?) to get any sort of compensation. Which would make everyone wonder if Elias Sports Bureau = Laugh Factory if it happened.