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This team fought and won. I don't see them giving up. Nice to see Rodon and Robertson rebound. Good sign

It should have been game over with Robertson in relief in the 9th inning for Sale sewing up the win. That's what we signed him for and he is an excellent reliever. This whole team is snake bit

Let's strive mightily to win a game today OK?

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 03:42 AM) This is exactly why Sale will be here for the remainder of his contract. And he should be. You don't trade Sale, your best pitcher, because the rest of the team stinks

I feel your pain. I was trying to follow the game on MLB gameday. Sae with another Cy Young effort. Suich an amazing pitcher holding a one run lead into the 9th. You would think our bst relief pitcher would be at his best for the 9th. Once again we have no offense even though we get 9 hits. I really think in the bottom of the 9th that Robin sent in a pinch hitter for the wrong hitter.

On Walt Hriniak from Baseball Wikipedia: (Walt is now 72) Hriniak's batting theories had many adherents among Red Sox players, but he also had detractors. Ted Williams, the Hall of Fame hitter and all-time Boston great, was outspoken in his criticism of Hriniak's methods. Williams and his followers felt that Hriniak robbed his hitters of extra-base power by teaching them to hit the ball up the middle, "swing down on the ball," or to take the upper hand off the bat at the end of their swing — which may have been oversimplifications of Hriniak's philosophies. "I don't have a problem with Ted Williams," Hriniak told Yankee Magazine in 1986. "He teaches his way, and I teach mine. I don't teach a level swing, a downward swing, or an uppercut swing. Hitters are all different, so I teach all three ... You don't have to hit my way, you don't have to hit his way. Just make up your minds. Don't keep changing lanes. You can't hit when you're confused."[1] White Sox coach[edit] Finally, after 12 years with Boston, four as the team's official batting coach, Hriniak moved to the Chicago White Sox in 1989 as one of the highest-paid coaches in baseball. (Lau was the White Sox' batting coach in 1984 when he succumbed to colorectal cancer at age 50. Hriniak wore Lau's old No. 6 uniform in tribute during his Chicago tenure.) Hriniak coached another seven years, through 1995, before opening his own hitting school and becoming a private batting instructor. Former White Sox slugger Frank Thomas was one of his most loyal adherents.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 07:54 PM) I reading an article on hitting coaches and the conclusion is most players don't listen. That's why George Brett quit. On some organizations when players don't listen they can be replaced. I would think handling veteran players would be the biggest challenge. They may have developed habits they've gotten away with and trying to change that must be hard for the coach and the player. Frank Thomas listened to Walt Hriniak and worshipped him as a hitting coach. There was a time when our coaching staff was top notch. Bring back Walt and let the Big Hurt coach too

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) So the White Sox struggles the past 3 seasons are all on Robin. If they would have hired Dave Martinez, there probably would have been playoff appearances and capacity crowds? It's their nightmare let them dream it. Blame is the name of the game

Melky Cabrera

Melky Cabrera

Circle the wagons for a win

Circle the wagons for a win

M Cabrera

Let's beat these Tin Star wannabees

Abreu

Show some team spirit with a winning PTC

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 04:35 PM) exactly, but with out the team performing, the team doesn't have the players to rearrange the starting lineup. so the idea of who to bat #1, and #2 , if the other players are hitting just as bad or worst. The point I am making is that they are not as bad as they are playing. The players on this team have proven track records of success. Now we have some who don't. SWe took achanmce on Noesi, who was a serviceable #5 starter last year. He wasn't even a decent long relief option this year. He is now gone. Danks may still be ok at #5 now, but Rodon is still learning at the big league level and has been inconsistent. We need a better catching corp even though pitchers seem to like to throw to Tyler. I don't know much about Soto. But, they both stink in throwing out runners. How much blame is that on the pitchers inability to hold runners? I don't know but that has been discussed previously. A better option at 3B may be needed but Gillaspie hovered around .300 last year with the bat. Defensively he is only average at best. Our attempts to fill the 2B spot with our vaunted rookies has not been sterling. I believe they have talent but are really lacking at the plate. Relief pitching has been somewhat mediocre and I think that was supposed to be a strength this year. A fire sale as folks have been calling for is not a viable option as we will struggle for a long time while replacements mature in their roles. I think in this day and age, especially with the wild card option putting so many teams in the hunt, you will sell low in a fire sale, if you just want to dump players and salary. Yes, all teams need some tweaking one in awhile and we may too, but let's be realistic in what we can and should do. All we have to do is make it to the playoffs as a wild card and that is doable. Robin Ventura is a knowledgeable baseball man. I remember the day when we had a winning manager with fire - Ozzie Guillen - and I think we can agree the styles of leadership shown by Ozzie and Robin are complete opposites. But, folks wanted him gone too. How did that work out?

There was a time recently that most everyone thought Adam Eaton was the greatest trade of all time ( forgive the slight exaggeration) and Ramirez is a plus defender and the Shark would take us over the top and on and on. If we are done bashing everyone let's get back to playing baseball. This team can still compete

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:41 PM) 19 games at AAA, ERA of 5.5, WHIP of 1.85 on the year. Looks like he's thrown 34 innings in 19 games so he fits the bill as "replacement long reliever and maybe spot starter at Charlotte". Hopefully doesn't have to see the big league squad for any reason and is nothing but a guy to help the Knights roster replace Carroll. Probably Carroll's replacement at AAA level

QUOTE (MEANS @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Carrol up, Noesi DFA'd I think this move is appropriate. Other than that typical first inning woe yesterday I think Danks helped his cause. With some offense we could have had a couple-three wins this past week

Flowers

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) We hear how the White Sox are so behind in the times, but yelling and screaming and embarrassing guys as a way to get them to perform better seems to be as archaic as anything. I know we with our pitchforks would love that, but in real life is there anyone here that really wouldn't mind their boss throwing them under a bus, ranting and raving and telling everyone who would listen how badly they screwed up? Does anyone here really think that would make them a better employee? Excellent point made. Ranting and raving is not leadership

I don't have any problem with what Hahn said. Worse mistake we can make is act in a panic mode. We have good players with proven track records who just haven't met expectations. Doesn't mean they won't. Hate to be in a rebuilding mode every year because we aren't undefeated

If Danks can go six good inning and not give up 15 hits in that time frame we have a chance

encourage Donald Trump to buy the team or maybe Mark Cuban wll be interested