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Much more justifiable in Yankee Stadium than anywhere else.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 05:37 PM) I hope there is another Starfox in the works. I want to dogfight some anthropomorphic animal pilots again Do a barrel roll!

Can't wait for ptatc to swoop in and correct me, because I'm sure I have some things wrong

Also, DeAndre Jordan had 17 points despite going 5/14 at the line today. Jeebus

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) Sorry. I'll change it... No, no, please...wait until I'm done

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 05:22 PM) The deal with McCann is reportedly worth 5 years and $85 million. Yeah, no thanks. A lot of us feared for worse. To me, his bat hasn't been quite good enough for me to believe I want him as my DH in 3 or so years.

If Rose is on the less severe end of the spectrum here, what do you do with your tradeable assets? Hang on just in case? I say this as if you are the general manager and actually have to face the fans and your boss to explain your decisions. In other words, if Rose returns and looks like an all-world player at the end of the year people will want your ass fired for trading people. Either way, there will be a buttload of pushback if you trade half the starting lineup

Basically, the question here is whether they will do a "cleanup" or "repair" Neither is ideal, but we'd probably prefer a repair. Cleanup is usually a fairly quick recovery, but that means they deemed part of the meniscus irreparable and cut it out. It doesn't grow back. You'll have less of it forever. If you have a very little tear, it's not a big deal. Repair is much longer because you want the meniscus to actually heal at the site of the tear, so you stitch it together and basically just wait for it to heal. This is what they did with Westbrook, even though it was supposedly a relatively minor tear. The doc in the interview mentioned that he assumed it would be a repair based on the team saying he would be out "indefinitely" -- this entails multiple months of recovery. It is hard to image the severity of the injury, so post-surgery will be a very informative moment.

Some good reads about meniscus tears http://www.welcometoloudcity.com/2013/5/7/...ries/in/4555785 http://www.welcometoloudcity.com/2013/10/2...jury/in/4555785

There are a million degrees of this injury so the available info isn't very helpful. Typically, the very worst are lateral meniscus tears and his is medial. A bad tear of lateral meniscus often results in complete removal of the cartilage, which would effectively be it for a high level athlete. This could be a 4-8 week deal if it isn't bad with not bad prospects. It could be several months. There is also a chance, regardless of timeline, that the joint is permanently altered. With that said, medial tears often co-occur with ACL/MCL tears (the "unhappy triad"). Given the difficulty there can be in diagnosing those injuries, brace yourself for the possibility that they "discover" ACL and/or MCL tears when they do the surgery. Either way, it is difficult to know the severity of the meniscus tear before surgery -- the fact that they are going right into surgery suggests that there is no question about a certain level of severity, though.

Meniscus tear, requires surgery. Won't know duration or other details until they get a look at it w/ arthroscope

So you're telling me the Yankees will sign McCann, Stephen Drew, and Omar Infante AND sign Cano? Sounds like they might be moving on

It will be interesting to see what Deng is worth. Before the season, he seemed to be worth a lottery pick (in an admittedly bad draft). Now that we're in season, I'm not sure how it is affected. Just being an expiring deal will have some value, but I'm not sure how much. Jo should be coveted. If he Jo+Jimmy was going to get us LaMarcus Aldridge, Jo by himself should get us something very nice. Booz - my hopes aren't high there, but you never know. I don't know that anyone else needs to be traded or has much value. Someone might give us something for Dunleavy or Hinrich, but I don't know that we could get anything that would be useful in the long term for those guys.

The main things that change IMO: Lu gets traded -- I think someone will want him, might get a good pick if we take a bad contract (and why not do that?) Zero question about a Boozer amnesty if he makes it to the end of the season -- but we now might try to trade The biggest one: we now market Joakim hard and get the best possible value for him, which should be first round draft pick. It just forces the restructuring process to occur a little sooner, plus dumping Jo who we otherwise would have kept for the "next core." Might be interesting to see how many picks and such that we can rack up

Nick Friedell ‏@NickFriedell 11m I'd expect Bulls to release the MRI results in the next couple hours. They know the entire league is waiting to see what happens.

K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop 2m DRose MRI results expected afternoon PST, evening CST.

Having it buckle and feel painful to put weight on right after injury is common. There are times when the person can walk on it and maybe even lightly run, but usually the swelling at the least will make this unbearable. Painful pop/rupture, maybe a few seconds of feeling non-horrible, then an extremely sore knee that will buckle under pressure is to be expected for several weeks

Somewhere on the Twittersphere I read that they were thinking about sending him to Chicago to get looked at instead

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 23, 2013 -> 12:04 PM) No it was in the last minute of the game and there is some science that suggests ACL injuries can be related to fatigue. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19568192 https://digital.library.txstate.edu/bitstre....pdf?sequence=2 But whats done is done. His own doctor disputes that

In their defense, they didn't want to block appointments. What they tried to do was shrink the size of the courts so there weren't any appointments to be made

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 22, 2013 -> 02:34 PM) [cough] Where would he play. Where this guy plays QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Nov 22, 2013 -> 04:23 PM) FWIW Merkin retweeted this from Keppinger: What comes easy won't last. What lasts won't come easy. Jeff moving on to his post-baseball career of bad haiku-making

My KGJ baseball was played so much that the sticker on the front is half melted off. Same for my Super Mario 64. Seriously, Super Mario 64 is one of the best games ever made. It would be difficult to make substantial improvements on the gameplay even today.

Honestly, I won't blame him if he really breaks down. This is unbelievably awful. Yeah, yeah, we know he gets plenty of money and it's part of the reason he will eventually be fine. But he has invested a tremendous portion of his emotional livelihood in basketball. When he thinks about himself, he thinks "I am Derrick Rose the basketball player." Everyone he knows, even his family, thinks about him in this way. Success in basketball and success in life are synonymous for him. That has been taken away. The rehab for the ACL injury took a ton out of him. The length of time away from the game, the time it took, the fear of failure, the criticism coming at him...those all took their toll. To look ahead at all of the same but even more is probably overwhelming. Luckily (I guess), he has a long time to get over it.

If it's a torn ACL, then I'll be thinking something I don't think I ever would have: it's too bad we can't amnesty him