Jake

An asterisk on this win because Rodgers went down. WTF?

When Jay went down, I said some good things about McCown. I said he was a really solid, fearless, and smart veteran who wouldn't lose us any games. I was wrong. He's winning us this game.

Also, Jon Gruden: http://www.alshonjefferies.com

Shades of not Marion Barber

Julius talking mad s*** at the LOS

Peppers with the one finger sack

On another note, I think I'd hit Chris Sale better than I can hit a pitching machine. I could never time them up for some odd reason

What is the PFF value for breaking Aaron Rodgers?

McCown looks absolutely phenomenal.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 08:11 PM) s***ty special teams strikes again. "Joe DeCamillis is one of the best special teams coaches in the NFL" Dante Rosario has determined that was a lie

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) During my last baseball playing experience, I was the Loaf. It was the summer after freshman year and my family was in the process of packing up to move out of town. I played 2B and was basically a backup. Between innings of games you didn't play, you had to run poles from the dugout to the foul pole. We had practices every day, but my coach basically just hit us grounders, let us hit quick, and we were done within an hour. I missed a doubleheader that he supposedly told me I was supposed to go to but I had no idea (because rather than having a list, he lined us up and, from a distance, pointed and said "You're going/not going, eh, no you're not going/going, eh, nevermind you are going/not going") and he made me run 28 poles, 1 for each half inning I missed. I ran 20 of them and called it good. I'd play once every 3 games or so and just generally could not get in a groove. Finally, I have a game I get in and I've played fairly well up to this point (meaning I haven't screwed up). There's a grounder to short, I cover 2B and go to fire to 1B to turn it, and this dude is still standing up coming into the base. My coach yells "Throw it anyways!" so he's mad at me for not throwing it. Runners on the corners now, 1 down, and he calls a bunt play...which we've practiced like 3 times 2 months prior...and I mess it up simply because I have no idea what's going on. I cover 2B when I was supposed to cover 1B. Everyone's safe. They score like 4 more runs. He comes up to me between innings and says "You're out. Go hit, and then you're out." I went up to the plate and singled to left, stole second on the second pitch, advanced to third on a ground ball, and scored on a wild pitch. I think it's pretty heady baseball and grab my stuff to take the field. He comes up to me and says "no, you're still out. Go run your pole." I'd had it by that point, didn't run my pole, and basically said "f*** it." Took my jersey and belt off. He approached me the next inning and said "Why aren't you running your poles?" I just looked him in the eyes, tears running out of mine, and said "I can't take this bulls***. I quit." I was playing club ball on a team that had an absolute stud at shortstop. He was about 6'3" and was clocked at 96 throwing across the infield at a showcase. I never believed the arm of an infielder could really play a big role in a game, but his was constantly getting us extra outs because nobody expected him t make the throws he did. Anyway, we had that situation. It's actually a fairly close play, but the kid stays high trying to break it up. He takes a 96 mph heater right in the chops. It was so point blank that a couple people in the bleachers thought that he didn't even release the ball and had just punched him. Nope. We couldn't even figure out where his mouth ended and his nose began. After we got him off the field, we had to rake the area near second base because of all the blood. I know you're supposed to throw it, but I know my buddy at shortstop didn't feel much better about it just because he was supposed to.

Welcome to s***tybackupland, Green Bay. I know it's been like 25 years since you've known it, but I hope you can get used to it

That McCown throw was absolutely amazing. That's a movie scene throw

I think if we signed AJ to a 2 year deal instead of Salty to a 4 year deal, we're probably in a lot better position in two years

The Epstein way was simply a smarter way of having more money than everyone else and spending it

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 05:49 PM) He was 30 seconds away from leading his team to the NFC Championship game in his rookie season and he's led his team to an 8-1 record this year with arguably one of the worst group of WRs I've ever seen. Also, an absolutely dreadful offensive line

You can say it's player harmful free agency or you can say it's a player friendly franchise tag

I'd find it more likely that one of our OF posts an .850 and another a .650 than all of them being in the .700 range

I'm imagining Duke driving over a bridge and going "nice job, government!" I think this is good - Duke agrees that the government can and should build and maintain roads, we all just disagree about how much and how often. I like finding common ground.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 08:35 AM) #23 in C WAR - 13.1 #22 in 1B WAR - 13.8 #29 in 2B WAR - 6.4 #14 in SS WAR - 21.3 #30 in 3B WAR - 1.5 #28 in LF WAR - 8.6 #30 in CF WAR - 17.7 #28 in RF WAR - 16.9 Let's get rid of that POS shortstop!

Yes, we're happy to have to wade through a bunch of self-serving BS when we're buying a cell phone, but we think it is bad for society when people are trying to hoodwink us out of being alive

That feel when you start Arian Foster, he scores 0 points, and you still lead 131-74 with Jordy Nelson still left to play while my opponent has Green Bay D plus Jarrett Boykin, who apparently is an NFL football player In my other league, I'm trailing 120-136 because that douchebag has TY Hilton and Adrian Peterson. I have Marshall and Martellus and he's all finished. Who thinks I win? Non-PPR. Yahoo's live projection gives me a 48% chance of winning, which basically means the exact projections of Marshall and Martellus have me losing by a fraction of a point or something

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 4, 2013 -> 11:52 AM) While all of your proposals are inherently silly, my favorite is ADD classes. Is there such a thing? Can you diagnose a mental health issue from watching a guy play baseball? I wonder what happened from '11-'12 to '13 that made ADA get an attention deficit disorder... Perhaps this type of thing is contagious Greg? Maybe our own '13 draft pick Nick Blount can pass over some of his amphetamines to De Aza now that he got busted? What do you think Greg? LOL, as our resident adult ADHD'er, I can confirm that there is no such thing as ADD class. Some people do hire ADHD "coaches" to consult with, but we're usually getting "coached" on things like arranging a daily schedule, how to remember to do basic things like brush our teeth and feed our pets, etc. IF De Aza had ADHD, the only thing that would help him on the field is medication. With that said, I highly doubt that that is the problem and as you said, to diagnose it over the TV is ridiculous. He was a fairly conscientious player in 2012 and came off as simply a tad aggressive rather than airheaded. I think he came unprepared last year and continued to lose focus (focus in the sense of motivation) as the year dragged on. It's nice that his problems aren't physical, but sometimes you can't fix dumb. You can never fix a lack of talent, though. Will be interesting to see what he does this year. Would be even more interesting to know what the FO thinks about him right now.

http://deadspin.com/football-players-hate-...dium=socialflow Pretty interesting piece and one that definitely resonates. I played a lot of sports and playing baseball meant I had yet another new club team virtually each summer. College ball, of course, looked a whole lot like this article. I can definitely see the different people and kinds of people he is describing in this article. In college, I spent a little time as a "Loaf" but I had the good fortune or good sense to be the mysterious guy who does all the team things but socializes with mostly different folks. I imagine everyone has felt that pull to embraced by the team, though, as well as seen different guys become the punching bag. I have a few really fond memories of teams that were extremely cohesive, but it seems that the majority of the time it isn't much different from what he describes. And it isn't really anyone's fault. Maybe it isn't even an inherently bad thing. It is definitely strange, though.

I don't think Cliff has done anything out of line.